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Laheon
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Posted - 2012.08.01 11:02:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:One thing can be said though, the BF3 beta still looked better and played better than Dust at the moment. Really...and I keep saying this...Maybe this game will play horribly for years....wont even be as smooth as battlefield. But it is the interaction in Eve that makes it worthwhile.
Tak, you missed a point above.
All the major shooters (BF, COD, etc) release betas which are effectively glorified demos. They want the publicity, and they don't need the testing. Activision and EA both are multi billion dollar companies, and so, can afford large testing teams. Moreover, they retain the same engine from the last game, so don't need to make major changes. All they really need to put in is new maps, a couple of new features, and a new setting.
This, however, is a proper beta. Not for publicity (although anyone who does come to play the game is welcome to talk to their friends, barring breach of the NDA), but for testing. I'm sure that, at release, the game will play as smoothly as an AAA shooter. |
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Posted - 2012.08.01 11:23:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:Well BF3 did in fact need testing if not just for the formal reason that all games need testing, BF3 had some particularly worse issues then say KZ2. As far as the engine goes regarding this game I guess depends on your definition of a smooth triple A shooter, rainbow six was developed on the same engine but it had design issues regarding AI and ect...Dust 514 may suffer from the issue of bad design that simple testing will never fix. In 3 years if the game still retains much of how the shooting or the pacing is still closely related to how the game looks today and you compare it to other triple A shooters than the testing wouldn't have been the issue. But it's more of a personal opinion than anything.
Sure, it did need testing, but not extensively. Their beta started, I think, about a month and a half before release, and it didn't have vehicles in. They would have been hard pushed to add all those in for release, so they probably already had a release build and only wanted to test infantry.
Whereas, here, we need to test infantry, vehicles, the maps, etc. I'm just saying you can't compare the BF beta to the DUST beta, since they're two different companies, one with more resources than the other, meaning they can afford not to have a beta to test gameplay.
That, and it's CCP's first time developing an FPS. Sure, they have people from DICE, but CCP love their community so love feedback and suggestions. Anything we suggest will be considered, and when's a better time than in the closed beta? |
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:00:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:Mm hm..I just do not think the game will change much even if you sort every bug or balance issue out and the comparisons to COD or BF3 will not end with me. It's not a matter of if it's a postive or negative attitude I just don't expect it to be a top tier triple A shooter to the likes of BF3 or COD. Well I am not playing this game for looks or how it plays anyway but for the fact it's with Eve's universe that's all I have really to say.
I agree with you that its main attraction is the integration into EVE. I'm enjoying the gameplay as it is, but I came for the cross-platform cross-game play.
However, I can see CCP bringing in a couple more FPS developing staff after release, or developing it themselves from the experience they've gotten over the last 3+ years. I can see DUST being an AAA shooter, whether it's at release or in 3 years time.
If it's not, I won't be disappointed, since AAA shooters aren't the best thing in shooters. I've had fun playing indie shooters, too! |
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:34:00 -
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Kazeno Rannaa... No words can express how much I love you right now. +1. If I could, it'd be +10. |
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:09:00 -
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Templar, you're acting as if this build is the only one they have.
Apparently, from what I've heard, they fixed a lot of the mechanics issues from the last build. For example, they improved (not fixed) hit detection...
Also, your comparison with BF and GoW... Both are huge companies. Epic developed the U3 engine, and license the engine out to a lot of games companies, so can afford a lot of in-house testing.
Actually, I can't be bothered with this argument anymore. All the points have already been made, and you don't seem to understand the beta testing period. It's not like the next build will be this build with extra stuff tacked on.
That's it from me. |
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