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TotalBreakage wrote:

Abron Garr wrote:

TotalBreakage wrote:

xprotoman23 wrote:

GM Unicorn wrote:

What about me :( ? I really like going around dropping K17/D Nanohives and healing people with my repair tool. My KD ratio is awful but I think that I'm useful to my team. I find support charater always "behind the scene" but I really enjoy that particular playstyle. K/D ratio is score, not THE score.
A proper K/D/A ratio is more similar to a proper numeric performance of the player, if properly implemented.

Support classes in this game are basically worthless. There is little if not any incentive at all for playing a support role. There isn't anything that really makes it worthwhile. Good players build loadouts which allow them to support themselves. I run around with K17/D Nanohives and still average 40+ kills with little deaths while taking out peoples tanks with proto AV grenades. At the most terrible players can either camp objectives or sit in places which allow them to passively spot the enemy as a means of helping out the team.

They will develop more as we get a grouping system and corp battles.

Even with grouping, Logi is worthless right now. That's why I stopped playing it until we get some fixes. It's much easier to just fit an assault suit for damage and kill people.

Look at the post I made on page 2, it shows a scenario of a corp battle where many roles come into play.

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GM Unicorn 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 467	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:04:00 - [31] - Quote ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote: GM Unicorn wrote: What about me :( ? I really like going around dropping K17/D Nanohives and healing people with my repair tool. My KD ratio is awful but I think that I'm useful to my team. I find support charater always "behind the scene" but I really enjoy that particular playstyle. K/D ratio is score, not THE score. A proper K/D/A ratio is more similar to a proper numeric performance of the player, if properly implemented. your just hiding behind saying "oh I help my team" to cover up the fact that your a bad player GIT UR GUN GAME UP NARB! no remote explosives. no vehicles. no smgs. no heavies. no scouts. all freaking skill GG(git gud) I shoot as well, but with other chars that are not support ;) Rorek IronBIood wrote: Cod a is great game all time best seller dust couild learn a thing or two Probably true but using this logic "Fifty Shades of Grey" is the best book ever and "Twilight" saga is an awesome movie :p We are in a beta, we are here to learn.

Gunmouse Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 44	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:08:00 - [32] - Quote My RL K/D ratio is higher than all yours. Deal with it tryhards.
William HBonney Imperfects Negative-Feedback 318	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:09:00 - [33] - Quote Funny how people using broken scout suits say how awesome they are. :) when the mechanics of the game are fixed....if they get fixed then we can talk about kdr meaning something. Kills mean something, then again some people lag like crazy and the hit detection just doesn't register
ALM1GHTY STATIUS 138	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:09:00 - [34] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: FPS will play an important role in clan/corp battles, but so will tanks, dropships, repair guys, scouts, and commanders. FPS is just one part of the spectrum. you wish, it'll be EVERYONE CALL IN THERE TANKS NOW COVER ALL POSITIONS NO-ONE GETS OUT OF THERE SPAWN POINT!

GM Unicorn 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 467	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:14:00 - [35] - Quote Templar Two wrote: We asked non-combat stats exactly to find/identify useful support players...no news on that so far on that :( Noted!* *means "noted", therefore it is not a promise or anything close to that, I will just point that out to our Devs :) (DFGJ)

TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:16:00 - [36] - Quote ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote: TotalBreakage wrote: FPS will play an important role in clan/corp battles, but so will tanks, dropships, repair guys, scouts, and commanders. FPS is just one part of the spectrum. you wish, it'll be EVERYONE CALL IN THERE TANKS NOW COVER ALL POSITIONS NO-ONE GETS OUT OF THERE SPAWN POINT! Well no, I'm sure out of the 100s of maps we have, many will have enclosed building spaces where vehicles can't get in. But to get to these building areas we will need vehicles and repairmen to assist them, to counter the vehicles the defender's commander will call down some turrets to defend, a scout sniper will meanwhile be zooming in on the enemy to get an assessment of their forces. After the initial battle to get to the building area(if the attackers win), the infantry will then rush in to secure the objective(s). I just put down a scenario where there many different play styles involved. There will be thousands of different scenarios, and pure infantry combat will just not fit into the spectrum.
Got malwarE Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:28:00 - [37] - Quote GM Unicorn wrote: I find support charater always "behind the scene" but I really enjoy that particular playstyle. K/D ratio is score, not THE score. A proper K/D/A ratio is more similar to a proper numeric performance of the player, if properly implemented. I so agree with this. As a scout, I can't tell you how many times I've defended a base...out of sight...killing attackers as they try to steal a base. --GmE
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:38:00 - [38] - Quote ReGnUm DEl wrote: My KDR protects you MY KDR wins the Game My KDR Gets me ISK My KDR make you rage on the forums My KDR GETs @$#%^ DONE SO DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT KDR First, I don't care enough about K/D in general to complain, and I applaud those that do well. Second, your K/D doesn't matter - your job is to find ways to improve the game. I for one am trying new things to see what is broken and needs to be fixed, and looking for ways to make the game better. This often results in the use of fittings and suits I am not proficient in to see how they work in given situations. Third, your K/D is not making people rage on the forums; your behavior is, though I do understand you might confuse the results of your behavior and your K/D, both of which might anger people. The difference is that you use the forums as a way to belittle and humiliate other people, some of whom are more casual gamers and/or new to FPS with little to no experience; your desire to treat others in this way has no excuse. To be honest, given the harassment you and Almighty have instigated in this thread, I'm a little surprised it hasn't been locked yet.
Ire's thug GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 272	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:44:00 - [39] - Quote K/D is somewhat important but as a dropship pilot I get maybe 4 kills ~ my gunners on the other hand get 30 to 40-0 K/D ratio and my squad is spawning in the dropship with me while I insert them over objectives... All I'm saying is seeing ONE stat and using that to base the quality of player is ignorant and nearsighted. The whole time your getting 10 bazillion kills you don't see the heavy behind you desperately trying to cover you from a dropship you didn't even know was there? The assault guy droping nanohives that heal you as your "tanking" with your awesome proto suit? That scout that may be missing but is still pinning down 4 scouts with shotguns who were trying to sneak up on you? This is not a one man rodeo cowboy and different jobs = different K/D ratios... If you get high K/D ratios then awesome! You will make an excellent Grunt! New Eden needs lots of those! But careful about insulting the wrong person with a low K/D ratio, he might be a MCC pilot or a corp financial liaison whose sole job it is to fund all the operations you will surely be doing as a high level playa of mad skillzz.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.07.29 16:52:00 - [40] - Quote ReGnUm DEl wrote: My KDR protects you MY KDR wins the Game My KDR Gets me ISK My KDR make you rage on the forums My KDR GETs @$#%^ DONE SO DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT KDR ReGnUm, here's my post from Templar Two's erudite thread entitled "OMG why are you so bad??": Same here Templar Two, bought my PS3 for DUST - It's really sad because I'm just and old, pathetic, arthritic, poor-eyesighted, first-time console owner spaz(do people still use the word spaz?). I hope you never have to deal with the shame of me killing you, that would suck, imho. Thanks for contributing to my KDR last night, bro. Much appreciated. But you're still wrong.

Kill3rAce Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:08:00 - [41] - Quote ReGnUm DEl wrote: My KDR protects you MY KDR wins the Game My KDR Gets me ISK My KDR make you rage on the forums My KDR GETs @$#%^ DONE SO DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT KDR You have to be biggest troll and loser on the fourms. Who wastes there time bragging how about good they think are in a virtual game let alone a closed beta in testing. Grow up and stop wasting space on the fourms
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:14:00 - [42] - Quote Guys its ok..... In some game K/D is the best and most efficient way to measure a player's worth, as it is the most important stat. Dust just happens to not be one of those games. You can have the best K/D ive ever seen, but my corporation can still just orbital strike you to nothing.....then what are you gonna do? rather, what are you gonna do when you fight on a hostile planet where you NEED vehicles to get around? logic shattered
Stabber McShank Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:16:00 - [43] - Quote I still want to know how CCP plans to implement Dust Mercs even making it to the deployment planet. If they have to be flown out to the "contract" site, I expect to see a lot lower KDR due to ships dying enroute (Gate camp in VFK).
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:30:00 - [44] - Quote its MAGIC waves hands
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:59:00 - [45] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Guys its ok..... In some game K/D is the best and most efficient way to measure a player's worth, as it is the most important stat. Dust just happens to not be one of those games. You can have the best K/D ive ever seen, but my corporation can still just orbital strike you to nothing.....then what are you gonna do? rather, what are you gonna do when you fight on a hostile planet where you NEED vehicles to get around? logic shattered Not play somewhere I'll get striked 9/10 deaths, bring my own cheap vehicle to get around, and smash everything up with an AR and AV nades. Laser rifle if possible :)
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:00:00 - [46] - Quote KDR is why I spend so much time on top of towers in my dropship or manning the missile turrets in the back.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:03:00 - [47] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Guys its ok..... In some game K/D is the best and most efficient way to measure a player's worth, as it is the most important stat. Dust just happens to not be one of those games. You can have the best K/D ive ever seen, but my corporation can still just orbital strike you to nothing.....then what are you gonna do? rather, what are you gonna do when you fight on a hostile planet where you NEED vehicles to get around? logic shattered Not play somewhere I'll get striked 9/10 deaths, bring my own cheap vehicle to get around, and smash everything up with an AR and AV nades. Laser rifle if possible :) You dont have that option if your in low or null the enemy can call in its fleet of ships to OB you off the planet, only way to stop it is to have your own fleet or maybe an instalation on the ground but either way the choice is taken out of your hands You will get OB unless you hide in high sec
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:24:00 - [48] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Tony Calif wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Guys its ok..... In some game K/D is the best and most efficient way to measure a player's worth, as it is the most important stat. Dust just happens to not be one of those games. You can have the best K/D ive ever seen, but my corporation can still just orbital strike you to nothing.....then what are you gonna do? rather, what are you gonna do when you fight on a hostile planet where you NEED vehicles to get around? logic shattered Not play somewhere I'll get striked 9/10 deaths, bring my own cheap vehicle to get around, and smash everything up with an AR and AV nades. Laser rifle if possible :) You dont have that option if your in low or null the enemy can call in its fleet of ships to OB you off the planet, only way to stop it is to have your own fleet or maybe an instalation on the ground but either way the choice is taken out of your hands You will get OB unless you hide in high sec LOL Tony can hide wherever he wants, if someone wants him dead, he's gonna get deaded. By a big ol' bright light i the sky. Yes, there is high sec.....so what, the EVE corp will just go over anyway lol edit: unless i am missing something? did CCP say no OB's in high sec?
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:56:00 - [49] - Quote GM Unicorn wrote: What about me :( ? I really like going around dropping K17/D Nanohives and healing people with my repair tool. My KD ratio is awful but I think that I'm useful to my team. I find support charater always "behind the scene" but I really enjoy that particular playstyle. K/D ratio is score, not THE score. A proper K/D/A ratio is more similar to a proper numeric performance of the player, if properly implemented. Support classes in this game are basically worthless. There is little if not any incentive at all for playing a support role. There isn't anything that really makes it worthwhile. Good players build loadouts which allow them to support themselves. I run around with K17/D Nanohives and still average 40+ kills with little deaths while taking out peoples tanks with proto AV grenades. At the most terrible players can either camp objectives or sit in places which allow them to passively spot the enemy as a means of helping out the team.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:57:00 - [50] - Quote No OB in high sec, not sure if you can try to gank in a OB while a battle takes place but you get concorded for it

TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:58:00 - [51] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: GM Unicorn wrote: What about me :( ? I really like going around dropping K17/D Nanohives and healing people with my repair tool. My KD ratio is awful but I think that I'm useful to my team. I find support charater always "behind the scene" but I really enjoy that particular playstyle. K/D ratio is score, not THE score. A proper K/D/A ratio is more similar to a proper numeric performance of the player, if properly implemented. Support classes in this game are basically worthless. There is little if not any incentive at all for playing a support role. There isn't anything that really makes it worthwhile. Good players build loadouts which allow them to support themselves. I run around with K17/D Nanohives and still average 40+ kills with little deaths while taking out peoples tanks with proto AV grenades. At the most terrible players can either camp objectives or sit in places which allow them to passively spot the enemy as a means of helping out the team. They will develop more as we get a grouping system and corp battles.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.07.29 19:03:00 - [52] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: GM Unicorn wrote: What about me :( ? I really like going around dropping K17/D Nanohives and healing people with my repair tool. My KD ratio is awful but I think that I'm useful to my team. I find support charater always "behind the scene" but I really enjoy that particular playstyle. K/D ratio is score, not THE score. A proper K/D/A ratio is more similar to a proper numeric performance of the player, if properly implemented. Support classes in this game are basically worthless. There is little if not any incentive at all for playing a support role. There isn't anything that really makes it worthwhile. Good players build loadouts which allow them to support themselves. I run around with K17/D Nanohives and still average 40+ kills with little deaths while taking out peoples tanks with proto AV grenades. At the most terrible players can either camp objectives or sit in places which allow them to passively spot the enemy as a means of helping out the team. They will develop more as we get a grouping system and corp battles. Even with grouping, Logi is worthless right now. That's why I stopped playing it until we get some fixes. It's much easier to just fit an assault suit for damage and kill people.
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.07.29 19:08:00 - [53] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: TotalBreakage wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: GM Unicorn wrote: What about me :( ? I really like going around dropping K17/D Nanohives and healing people with my repair tool. My KD ratio is awful but I think that I'm useful to my team. I find support charater always "behind the scene" but I really enjoy that particular playstyle. K/D ratio is score, not THE score. A proper K/D/A ratio is more similar to a proper numeric performance of the player, if properly implemented. Support classes in this game are basically worthless. There is little if not any incentive at all for playing a support role. There isn't anything that really makes it worthwhile. Good players build loadouts which allow them to support themselves. I run around with K17/D Nanohives and still average 40+ kills with little deaths while taking out peoples tanks with proto AV grenades. At the most terrible players can either camp objectives or sit in places which allow them to passively spot the enemy as a means of helping out the team. They will develop more as we get a grouping system and corp battles. Even with grouping, Logi is worthless right now. That's why I stopped playing it until we get some fixes. It's much easier to just fit an assault suit for damage and kill people. Look at the post I made on page 2, it shows a scenario of a corp battle where many roles come into play.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.07.29 19:14:00 - [54] - Quote So much E peen stroking it makes me sick.
Stupid Drunk1 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 96	Posted - 2012.07.29 19:14:00 - [55] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: No OB in high sec, not sure if you can try to gank in a OB while a battle takes place but you get concorded for it You so sure. Concord can be defeated by corperations who then proceed to OB in high sec. High sec is not safe at all from the big alliances who can throw numbers and resources for the giggles.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.07.29 19:17:00 - [56] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: Abron Garr wrote: TotalBreakage wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: GM Unicorn wrote: What about me :( ? I really like going around dropping K17/D Nanohives and healing people with my repair tool. My KD ratio is awful but I think that I'm useful to my team. I find support charater always "behind the scene" but I really enjoy that particular playstyle. K/D ratio is score, not THE score. A proper K/D/A ratio is more similar to a proper numeric performance of the player, if properly implemented. Support classes in this game are basically worthless. There is little if not any incentive at all for playing a support role. There isn't anything that really makes it worthwhile. Good players build loadouts which allow them to support themselves. I run around with K17/D Nanohives and still average 40+ kills with little deaths while taking out peoples tanks with proto AV grenades. At the most terrible players can either camp objectives or sit in places which allow them to passively spot the enemy as a means of helping out the team. They will develop more as we get a grouping system and corp battles. Even with grouping, Logi is worthless right now. That's why I stopped playing it until we get some fixes. It's much easier to just fit an assault suit for damage and kill people. Look at the post I made on page 2, it shows a scenario of a corp battle where many roles come into play. Well I'm speaking of the current build we have right now. I agree Logi should have a role and probably will in future builds, but right now it's hard to argue the benefits of playing pure logi over assault.
Boss Dirge Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 71	Posted - 2012.07.29 19:24:00 - [57] - Quote Is it acceptable to enjoy myself while I aspire to your k/d greatness? I have a k/d the ranges from .94 to 1.09, the difference is I have fun doing and don't feel the need to validate myself to strangers for not appreciating my awesomeness. The k/d losers are the first to brag and also the first to call someone a scrub because they fly a dropship or drive a tank. Maybe people drive tanks and fly dropships because they enjoy it, not because "they have no gun game".
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.07.29 19:45:00 - [58] - Quote Stupid Drunk1 wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: No OB in high sec, not sure if you can try to gank in a OB while a battle takes place but you get concorded for it You so sure. Concord can be defeated by corperations who then proceed to OB in high sec. High sec is not safe at all from the big alliances who can throw numbers and resources for the giggles. CCP said no OB in high sec but yet maybe a way around it
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 811	Posted - 2012.07.29 21:29:00 - [59] - Quote I love these threads, they really weed out the prospective corp members and gives a nice glimpse into who's corps to go after when the game releases. You goobers can have your KDR, anyone with a brain will be looking for players who focus on objective based team play. KDR guys are a dime a dozen, people with a head on their shoulders and no over inflated epeen are more valuable on the field. Sure, a corp will need some HKs, but certainly not the sort of people who don't understand the bigger picture.
blqkt2011 RestlessSpirits 25	Posted - 2012.07.30 16:13:00 - [60] - Quote William HBonney wrote: Funny how people using broken scout suits say how awesome they are. :) when the mechanics of the game are fixed....if they get fixed then we can talk about kdr meaning something. Kills mean something, then again some people lag like crazy and the hit detection just doesn't register Well said - I fully agree



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