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Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.07.30 04:27:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Iceyburnz wrote:Im of the opinion that repair and spawn rewards are too low.
Team spawns should net you 50 WP
Team repairs should net you 30.
A logistics suit is a terrible platform for being the "frontline hacker". Its slow, is weak, it has a massive hitbox, it has a big neon sign that says target above it and snipers seem to do +1000 damage against it.
Hackers are scouts and assault guys. Logistics in its present state should just hide. They're getting a passive hacking speed buff and their shields buffed to be more in line with Assaults. Not a huge turnaround, but I think it's enough of a buff when paired with the CPU/PG/equipment/slot advantages. And Nano Injectors are being buffed nicely as well. TOO BAD YOUR KDR WONT GET A BUFF
LoL Logistics are the hidden, deadly class. With the mount of stuff I can put on it, I have Remote Expkosives, tons of shields and armors, Prototype grenades, a Duvolle and equipment to help my team as well. I never die in my tank, cause I just repair it whenever I want.
Nerf me, Im OP |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.07.30 06:32:00 -
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The only time a logi medic is worth using is on a good team from my experience if yor team is doing really bad (all objectives taken etc) it's best just to run a scout or assault suit to take objectives. |
Tak Kak
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Posted - 2012.07.30 06:38:00 -
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The only problem with helping with logi is that it is so difficult to execute any action without it taking 10 seconds....Repairing, reviving the UI, the controls to switch to your equipment.... it's all frustrating and hard to accomplish with half the satisfaction of the same things you do so easily in battlefield 3....That's a good standard anyway about how roles can idealized, almost makes me want to take a long break until they actually start doing something like that. |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2012.07.30 07:05:00 -
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Plus it seems the defending team can't repair their installations. Blaster and Missile Installation on Plateau on the Attackers sidecan be repaired, but the ones on the defenders site can't be locked on. I guess there is still much work to do:
- sp gained for minor repairs, count the overall healed ap, not the heal in one go.
- repair indicators
- special map icons for the different classes of your team
- sp for repairs done by your nanohive
- shield repair sp
- improvements on Mass Driver as an Anti-Infantry Support Weapon for Logistics
- redeployable nanohives and uplinks |
Devil Biff
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:53:00 -
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With diminishing returns, its hard to judge acurately the differences. I do beleive logis are neglected though. I run assault only. My top game was around 300k sp. but I can get the same kills two hrs later and have only 40-50k. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:03:00 -
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Miles Bane wrote:y dose it seem the ppl camping and woried about there kd r the ones geting all the sp i thought this game was not based on kd im throwing spwans repairing ppl and reviving and geting 5 - 10 kills and geting lowe sp. r there other logistics players having this isu.i would like to see kill asists when im repairing a hevy who is mowing down ppl.
I use my Triage Repair kit, I get 15points.
I use my nanohive, I think team resupply for 15 points.
I use drop uplink, 15 points. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:05:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:The only problem with helping with logi is that it is so difficult to execute any action without it taking 10 seconds....Repairing, reviving the UI, the controls to switch to your equipment.... it's all frustrating and hard to accomplish with half the satisfaction of the same things you do so easily in battlefield 3....That's a good standard anyway about how roles can idealized, almost makes me want to take a long break until they actually start doing something like that.
The switching weapons is almost similar to MAG. Tap tap tap R2, instead of holding. |
Iceyburnz
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:09:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:
Not a huge turnaround, but I think it's enough of a buff when paired with the CPU/PG/equipment/slot advantages. And Nano Injectors are being buffed nicely as well.
Thanks for the info!
That should help, I think. While testing logistic I have in more than one occasion been tempted to throw my controller at the wall. 
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:11:00 -
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GM Unicorn wrote:Guys, keep the discussion nice and please avoid FULL CAPS raging posts and flaming. This post i really similar to the K/D ones (and apparently populated by the same person) but from a different perspective. I would like to keep it open :)
Only children that does this kind of post. Not your post. =D |
panoscape01
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:11:00 -
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I played MAG as mostly a repairer, it was great way to get a ton of points to buy the good gear. I'm not a good killer, but can keep doors closed, vehicles going and keep the killers killing. It was nice to see a small icon above a 'toons head so you can see if they have a repair or heal kit on them. You knew what that person had on them and how they could help. I'd like to see the same system here with a small icon next to the "toons name so you can see they are a logi guy and if they have heal or repair . One could also put this on the remote repair vehicles. My suggestion is to take what worked really well in MAG and leave what didn't.
I'm waiting for the next build to play as a logi, because this build just dosent work for them. Now, I ride in tanks and rack up insane SP as a gunner. |
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Jonny Moreau
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:22:00 -
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Advanced assault suit + gek-38 +advanced shields + repair = epic heavy supporter. I can sit behind a heavy with an hmg and heal him while he mows down people at the objective, hack the objective while everyone is dead, and kill people when not repairing. @ regnum, k/d is meaningless if your corp never gets hired because they cant play like a team. its like watching the NBA, not that anyone does that anymore |
Naturi Riclenore
BetaMax.
120
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:32:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Tak Kak wrote:The only problem with helping with logi is that it is so difficult to execute any action without it taking 10 seconds....Repairing, reviving the UI, the controls to switch to your equipment.... it's all frustrating and hard to accomplish with half the satisfaction of the same things you do so easily in battlefield 3....That's a good standard anyway about how roles can idealized, almost makes me want to take a long break until they actually start doing something like that. The switching weapons is almost similar to MAG. Tap tap tap R2, instead of holding.
Actually, you can hold down R2 and then use the Right-Stick to select weapon / item instead of Tapping R2, it's a bit clunky but you can do it. You have to HOLD R2, use Right-Stick to select Weapon / Item, while holding Right-Stick, release R2 then release Right-Stick.
As far as SP amounts for Logistics, we've made mention of that before. Right now, everything is lopsided towards KDR instead of being more balanced. Now that they've re-added repair tools, it will help. I repeair someone in heavy armor - +15 +15 +15 = +45, it's +50 for a kill. So 10 kills vs 10 FULL armor repairs on a HEAVY = +450 for repairs vs +500 for kills. it's even +50 for a hack, then +100 bonus for virus upload. And what makes it harder is that the player has no indication I am even trying to heal / repair them.
I can lay down drop uplinks, but when your team is doing well with defending / attacking the objectives, no one uses them as they can just use the normal spawn points, with a shorter spawn timer. Then it's only +15 for a team spawn. Throw down a nano-hive. Someone is completely low on armor / shields, has 0 ammo, what do I get - +15 Team Supply.
I also do not believe the game is handing out SP correctly nor registering everything that you do. I've been in rounds before where I know I have gotten at least 10 kills, hacked no less than the objective 5 times, threw down nano-s and uplinks, yet ended the match somehow with 5k SP and a KDR showing 1. I don't think everything is registering. |
Ryuyoshi Hanaya
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:46:00 -
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ya logi is hard to get points on. there are a bunch of times when I'm healing people and don't even get the point for a heal because they didn't have enough armor examples being scouts or assaults with half health and such. not being able to repair defending turrets is really annoying as well and on top of that people suicide too quick to revive and when they don't you have to aim just right with the injector just to stab them and half times it doesn't work cause you were just a little too late. really need the icons for healing and such to make it easier to find targets to heal and stab people who haven't suicided yet. oh and btw has anyone else run into the problem of trying to use injector on someone and you can't target them even when pointed at their body? |
RedBleach
50
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Posted - 2012.08.01 06:55:00 -
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Devil Biff wrote:With diminishing returns, its hard to judge acurately the differences. I do beleive logis are neglected though. I run assault only. My top game was around 300k sp. but I can get the same kills two hrs later and have only 40-50k.
Yeah, that diminishing returns thing is really beginning to **** me off. If I want to play for hrs on end I should receive more of a reward, not less. |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.01 07:17:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:ALL LOGI R SCRUBS CAUSE THEY CAN ONLY HEAL and not kill
Obvious cod scrub |
Southern1Cross
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.08.01 07:19:00 -
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the revive tool is not even worth attempting to use at the moment but when the next build comes along the revive tool should make the logi so mutch more useful , the newly released repair tools already make a huge difference for my logis team effectiveness , i really wish the logis had a sidearm though packing a swarm launcher without a sidearm is to restrictive in combat. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:09:00 -
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GM Unicorn wrote:Guys, keep the discussion nice and please avoid FULL CAPS raging posts and flaming. This post i really similar to the K/D ones (and apparently populated by the same person) but from a different perspective. I would like to keep it open :)
no personal or degrading comments hince "flaming" wheres the ban hammer when you need it...
read forum rules GM, and since when are we not aloud to have caps lock? ccp trying to nerf our right to caps lock now too? |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:11:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:ALL LOGI R SCRUBS CAUSE THEY CAN ONLY HEAL and not kill Obvious cod scrub
:-) |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:13:00 -
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Jonny Moreau wrote:Advanced assault suit + gek-38 +advanced shields + repair = epic heavy supporter. I can sit behind a heavy with an hmg and heal him while he mows down people at the objective, hack the objective while everyone is dead, and kill people when not repairing. @ regnum, k/d is meaningless if your corp never gets hired because they cant play like a team. its like watching the NBA, not that anyone does that anymore
i concur.
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vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:16:00 -
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GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:ALL LOGI R SCRUBS CAUSE THEY CAN ONLY HEAL and not kill Obvious cod scrub :-)
No +1 ? |
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GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:22:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:ALL LOGI R SCRUBS CAUSE THEY CAN ONLY HEAL and not kill Obvious cod scrub :-) No +1 ?
for you i will :)
INC LIKE! |
vermacht Doe
93
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:27:00 -
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GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:ALL LOGI R SCRUBS CAUSE THEY CAN ONLY HEAL and not kill Obvious cod scrub :-) No +1 ? for you i will :) INC LIKE!
Thanks bro add me on psn: mommy39 |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:35:00 -
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soon as i log in i will :) LL-_-GHOST-_-LL my psn add me :)
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