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Baron Rittmeister
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.27 20:53:00 -
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There have been many griefs about the creodron breach ar and with good reason. While I don't think it's op I do think it needs to be reviewed in comparison to the other ar's. The main issue is simply hit detection and the server not counting the numerous rounds that a standard ar puts out. Once that is fixed I believe it'll help alleviate the situation tremendously. I have a few ideas for balancing the ar's as a whole, but first I must express my feelings about the inadequacies of the other variants.
Standard: The clip size, fire rate, and dmg are all very well done. I mostly have no complaints about this variant other than the hit detection issue. One thing I would change is to bring in the hipfire but make it spread the longer fire is sustained similar to the assault smg. This will prevent people from spraying their whole clip without any inaccuracy penalties and force them to burst more accurately.
Burst: Same as the standard, I feel it's well done. The main issue is it doesn't become at all effective until the prototype version is unlocked. The RoF should be maintained throughout all the variants or at least closer together.
Tactical: This one is often overlooked, but has some serious potential. This variant also shows the largest flaw in the design of the breach and burst variants. The zoom is good and the dmg is decent, but the semi auto is too sluggish and the described 789 fire rate is impossible to achieve. The clip does get a bit larger with the proto version, but this model needs either a dmg buff or a larger clip in order to balance with the other ar's. Like I said, it's main problem is the sluggish response from r1 spamming.
The breach has the right size clip in the standard models but then becomes too much with the prototype model,and it totes higher dmg than the tactical but it has full auto. So how do we balance this equation? I personally believe in buffing to meet the highest denominator not using the nerf bat, but either way the breach stands out as being the predominant choice among ar's. It's a simple choice- best hipfire, dmg, stability, and hit registry ( besides the tactical). I'm fine with the hipfire not spreading over sustained fire, but it should be loosened up some and the dmg possibly brought down. At the very least, the clip size should be lowered to bring it in line with the ideal of the other ar's. More dmg, less bullets. Less dmg, more bullets. |
Asno Masamang
Odd Shadows Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:05:00 -
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Greetings,
Baron Rittmeister wrote:I personally believe in buffing to meet the highest denominator not using the nerf bat, but either way the breach stands out as being the predominant choice among ar's. It's a simple choice- best hipfire, dmg, stability, and hit registry ( besides the tactical).
Personally, I hate nerfing, however, if what you say is true, then this weapon does need to be nerfed. :(
When you do weapon balance, you first balance all the weapons within a specific class from the lowest level to the highest level, then when the class is correct, you can balance the entire class against other classes.
Unfortunately, what you are describing makes it sound like the Creodron is too power in comparison to the rest of the AR class. And the AR class appears to be fairly well balanced against SMGs, Shotguns, etc. As such, yes it needs to be nerfed. :(
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Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:52:00 -
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I think adding substantial kick to the guns, and buffing the other weapons up at their intend role would balance them out. However the proto breach is too strong I am not one for excessive nerfing however the damage an the breach should be brout down some.
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VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
135
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Posted - 2012.07.27 23:55:00 -
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The tac has more kick than the breach, i dont know a good reason for that..... |
Baron Rittmeister
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.07.28 12:52:00 -
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cuz the tac ar needs some tlc stat. While i don't want it to be buffed and then overused, I would love some common sense to be used and see that the other ar's dont match up with the breach. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.28 14:39:00 -
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creodron is fine.
boundless breach SMG is OP |
Icy Tiger
496
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Posted - 2012.07.28 16:20:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:creodron is fine.
boundless breach SMG is OP
Remind me again, what gun do you have hundreds of kills with? |
Baron Rittmeister
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.07.28 16:49:00 -
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@protoman, riiiiiight. the creodron is fine and breach smg is op. That statement alone disqualifies you from making rational statements on ar's. Go back to general discussion telling people not to like regnum's posts. This section of the forum is for honest and thought out feedback.
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