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Yosef Autaal SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2012.07.27 17:40:00 - [1] - Quote Maybe it is just me but I don't see where a weapon stats tell us what size they are i can take guesses based on which slots they are in but like the swarm launcher for instance i assume it is heavy but fits into a light so can be a little bit hmmmm just make it a little obvious which weapon upgrades effect which weapons
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.27 17:41:00 - [2] - Quote Look at "fitting" in the weapon's info screen. It tells you which slot the weapon fills.
Yosef Autaal SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2012.07.27 18:23:00 - [3] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Look at "fitting" in the weapon's info screen. It tells you which slot the weapon fills. yes I know this but as i said swarm launchers fits into light but the basic kit for the merc heavy he uses the heavy weapon mod
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.27 18:24:00 - [4] - Quote Yosef Autaal wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Look at "fitting" in the weapon's info screen. It tells you which slot the weapon fills. yes I know this but as i said swarm launchers fits into light but the basic kit for the merc heavy he uses the heavy weapon mod That's because the default fittings are stupid, not because it works.
Yosef Autaal SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2012.07.27 18:42:00 - [5] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Yosef Autaal wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Look at "fitting" in the weapon's info screen. It tells you which slot the weapon fills. yes I know this but as i said swarm launchers fits into light but the basic kit for the merc heavy he uses the heavy weapon mod That's because the default fittings are stupid, not because it works. They cant be that stupid they have a mod fitted that does nothing at all on the suit right i kno there bad but come on :S
Asno Masamang Odd Shadows Inc 122	Posted - 2012.07.27 18:45:00 - [6] - Quote Greetings, Yosef Autaal wrote: yes I know this but as i said swarm launchers fits into light but the basic kit for the merc heavy he uses the heavy weapon mod As Garrett said, the default fits are stupid, but they do demonstrate a very important point... The Swarm Launcher is a light weapon, but you can put a light weapon in a heavy slot... And guess what, you can also put a sidearm into a light or heavy slot. CCP did it this way to show you that this is possible... And that made that feature available to allow you to get a bit more creative with your builds.
Asno Masamang Odd Shadows Inc 122	Posted - 2012.07.27 18:48:00 - [7] - Quote Yosef Autaal wrote: They cant be that stupid they have a mod fitted that does nothing at all on the suit right i kno there bad but come on :S Everything on their fits do work, otherwise they would not fit them that way... Dust, like her big sister EVE, allows you to get creative with your builds.... In EVE it is not uncommon to see Battleships with Cruiser sized guns on them or cruisers with Frigate sized guns on them... Well, in Dust it is not uncommon to see Assault suits with SMGs as their primary weapon or Heavy suits with Assault rifles as their primary weapon.
Yosef Autaal SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2012.07.27 18:57:00 - [8] - Quote I understand that the light weapons can go in heavy slots and such, but my question is mainly about the heavy damage mod effecting the swarm launcher, is it the fact the swarm launcher is in the heavy weapon slot it uses the heavy damage mod bonus(which i do not think is right) or is the weapon a heavy weapon so uses the heavy damage mod while being able to fit into a light slot??
Asno Masamang Odd Shadows Inc 122	Posted - 2012.07.27 19:00:00 - [9] - Quote Yosef Autaal wrote: I understand that the light weapons can go in heavy slots and such, but my question is mainly about the heavy damage mod effecting the swarm launcher, is it the fact the swarm launcher is in the heavy weapon slot it uses the heavy damage mod bonus(which i do not think is right) or is the weapon a heavy weapon so uses the heavy damage mod while being able to fit into a light slot?? Ahhh, misunderstood your question. As far as I have been able to determine the damage modifier applies to the weapon, not the weapon slot. So no, the Swarm Launcher is a light weapon, even when used in a heavy slot. The heavy damage modifier does not affect it.
Yosef Autaal SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2012.07.27 19:02:00 - [10] - Quote Asno Masamang wrote: Yosef Autaal wrote: I understand that the light weapons can go in heavy slots and such, but my question is mainly about the heavy damage mod effecting the swarm launcher, is it the fact the swarm launcher is in the heavy weapon slot it uses the heavy damage mod bonus(which i do not think is right) or is the weapon a heavy weapon so uses the heavy damage mod while being able to fit into a light slot?? Ahhh, misunderstood your question. As far as I have been able to determine the damage modifier applies to the weapon, not the weapon slot. So no, the Swarm Launcher is a light weapon, even when used in a heavy slot. The heavy damage modifier does not affect it. I thought the same but as you said there fits are correct and in the merc fit there is a heavy damage mod while using a swarm launcher this is what is causing the confusion and why i believe it should be more obvious to the user for example when you add the damage mod it changes the info on the weapon with the new stats this is what happens in eve

Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.07.27 19:14:00 - [11] - Quote Yosef Autaal wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Yosef Autaal wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Look at "fitting" in the weapon's info screen. It tells you which slot the weapon fills. yes I know this but as i said swarm launchers fits into light but the basic kit for the merc heavy he uses the heavy weapon mod That's because the default fittings are stupid, not because it works. They cant be that stupid they have a mod fitted that does nothing at all on the suit right i kno there bad but come on :S oh, but they are. the default logi doesn't need that powergrid upgrade in it's low slot. i made a brand new character to test... not one fit has an smg sidearm. not even the sniper kit or the swarm launcher kit. the only fit with an armor rep is the logi. **** you heavy? the only kit that uses it's gear slots at all is the logi. (this may be for legitimate pg/cpu reasons however) the logi support kit uses a damage mod (it's a bad move, but i guess at least it functions?) the heavy has a stamina mod in it's low slot. you know, cuz heavys sprint a lot? and of course, the heavy weapons mod with no heavy weapon. i mean it's not a BIG deal, they're default fits, i don't expect them to be good. but i'd like for them to at least be intelligently assembled. it's like they took a fistful of modules and just threw it at the suits and used whatever stuck.
Asno Masamang Odd Shadows Inc 122	Posted - 2012.07.27 19:22:00 - [12] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: i mean it's not a BIG deal, they're default fits, i don't expect them to be good. but i'd like for them to at least be intelligently assembled. it's like they took a fistful of modules and just threw it at the suits and used whatever stuck. Yeah, I am finding more intelligent fits in the Suit Of The Week articles in the weekly beta news letter... I am actually hoping CCP starts using those as default fits.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.27 19:27:00 - [13] - Quote Asno Masamang wrote: Yosef Autaal wrote: I understand that the light weapons can go in heavy slots and such, but my question is mainly about the heavy damage mod effecting the swarm launcher, is it the fact the swarm launcher is in the heavy weapon slot it uses the heavy damage mod bonus(which i do not think is right) or is the weapon a heavy weapon so uses the heavy damage mod while being able to fit into a light slot?? Ahhh, misunderstood your question. As far as I have been able to determine the damage modifier applies to the weapon, not the weapon slot. So no, the Swarm Launcher is a light weapon, even when used in a heavy slot. The heavy damage modifier does not affect it. And THAT, not the light weapon in heavy slot, is why the build was stupid. Because the equipment slot is used for gear that does nothing.


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