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Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:49:00 - [1] - Quote Where is the logic in blatantly lying to your testers. You depend on us to help you make a better game, we've been running the same map for a month now, and it shows by rapidly dwindling participation. Trust me, 90% of the players left are NOT representative of the actual players that you need to test for. Then you promise us something new to get us back in the game, testing it for you, and it turns out that the promise is just an empty shell. A LIE. Then it turns out that some of the information were given on an unrelated source, that birdbrained site. Twits I think it's called. Appropriate name. That is another matter, but do remember that it is best for us testers, who are doing YOU a favour, that we have the information collected in one place. In this case, these forums. Don't make us have hunt down your messages all over the internet. All in all, YOU have NOTHING to gain by pissing off your players, or didn't you learn from JITA the last time? Lying to us to get us excited about testing again, is NOT the answer. If you don't have anything NEW, DON'T tell us you do! It is that simple. Now. get back on your high horse, and either give us what you promised, or tell us directly that you are not going to. GIVE US CLEAR ANSWERS, NOT LIES. That is all I am asking for. Edit: I were asked for proof. here it is: Read the dev posts: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=216929#post216929 CCP Frame wrote: #3 Posted: 2012.07.25 06:47 Update #2: We will introduce 3 new maps to the map pool after Thursday's downtime, on July 26th, 11:30 GMT. All this rage and malcontent would fade away somewhat, if only CCP would say SOMETHING about it.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:13:00 - [2] - Quote people get real emotional about this huh? Just wait till the full release dude. The more work they do on this build distracts from the final build. Beta is always gonna be broken beta stuff. Imo I think that this game is too ambitous its already be in this development cycle a long time much longer than alot of other shooters.
Milk Supreme ZionTCD Legacy Rising 127	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:18:00 - [3] - Quote I'm sorry, but that text just looks like rambling. There doesn't seem to be any information nor sources to back them up in that post.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:30:00 - [4] - Quote EnIgMa99 wrote: people get real emotional about this huh? Just wait till the full release dude. The more work they do on this build distracts from the final build. Beta is always gonna be broken beta stuff. Imo I think that this game is too ambitous its already be in this development cycle a long time much longer than alot of other shooters. That is NOT the point. It is THAT THEY LIED! They SAID that there would be three new maps. Today. I don't really care that there would be, but they made that promise, and they backed out of it without saying so. THAT is what my ramble is all about.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:31:00 - [5] - Quote Milk Supreme wrote: I'm sorry, but that text just looks like rambling. There doesn't seem to be any information nor sources to back them up in that post. Read the dev posts: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=216929#post216929 CCP Frame wrote: #3 Posted: 2012.07.25 06:47 Update #2: We will introduce 3 new maps to the map pool after Thursday's downtime, on July 26th, 11:30 GMT.
Rue Hadra 31	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:35:00 - [6] - Quote Umm, I thought new maps were going to be out on Friday?
Winscar Shinobi 50	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:39:00 - [7] - Quote In a game with thousands of maps.... We get 1. GG. Not complaining cause I'm loving the beta, but just a quirky observation.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:39:00 - [8] - Quote Rue Hadra wrote: Umm, I thought new maps were going to be out on Friday? A lot of people say that. but I fail to see how "Thursday's downtime, on July 26th, 11:30 GMT" can ever be made to sound like Friday.
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:41:00 - [9] - Quote obv mad
Kcobra Rod Foxhound Corporation 55	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:42:00 - [10] - Quote I like this

EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:43:00 - [11] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: EnIgMa99 wrote: people get real emotional about this huh? Just wait till the full release dude. The more work they do on this build distracts from the final build. Beta is always gonna be broken beta stuff. Imo I think that this game is too ambitous its already be in this development cycle a long time much longer than alot of other shooters. That is NOT the point. It is THAT THEY LIED! They SAID that there would be three new maps. Today. I don't really care that there would be, but they made that promise, and they backed out of it without saying so. THAT is what my ramble is all about. maybe its after todays later downtime for friday?
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:44:00 - [12] - Quote I think you are over reacting. Ofcourse CCP lies to people. Everyone lies. As the EvE players say "welcome to New Eden" where CCP will give you almost the best game ever, ruined by a couple of flaws that will never be fixed.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:47:00 - [13] - Quote PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote: obv mad Duh!
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:51:00 - [14] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I think you are over reacting. Ofcourse CCP lies to people. Everyone lies. As the EvE players say "welcome to New Eden" where CCP will give you almost the best game ever, ruined by a couple of flaws that will never be fixed. It is one thing that players run the meta game. But CCP should not.
Isarian Menoptra Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 85	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:09:00 - [15] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: All this rage and malcontent would fade away somewhat, if only CCP would say SOMETHING about it. Guys I think this dude is mad.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:11:00 - [16] - Quote Isarian Menoptra wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: All this rage and malcontent would fade away somewhat, if only CCP would say SOMETHING about it. Guys I think this dude is mad. Yeah, thinking that we'd get all happy and forget the lies if they explained it all. Yup, I'm mad. Btw. do you mean mad as in insane, or mad as in unhappy, pissed off, angry, ready to blow a gasket?
Milk Supreme ZionTCD Legacy Rising 127	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:26:00 - [17] - Quote CCP did seem to miss the schedule didn't they.
Pwebert JR 6	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:40:00 - [18] - Quote Confirming OP is mad bro
LT Dans Legs Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 72	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:41:00 - [19] - Quote Why is there sooo many Ambush maps when NOBODY plays them? Lets add a new map that nobody wants to play but keep only one skirmish map. Dont get me wrong. I am gratefull to be a part of the beta. But thats kinda lame.
michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:43:00 - [20] - Quote is there a reason why ccp's dev or gm are not commenting on this.

Traynor Youngs Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 287	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:44:00 - [21] - Quote 1. You are not doing them any favors, stop being a spoiled brat. 2. They do not need you specifically so if you are mad, just quit. No one will stop you. 3. Calling the Devs liars and having a hostile tone is about the worst thing you can do if you want to be listened to. 4. Making demands is poor communication skills. 5. Learn to be a beta tester. You are not testing for new content, maps, features, etc. You are testing for data (they track kills with what weapon from what position etc) and for bugs (report, game froze when I equipped the super thingy on my ultra doodad). 6. Thread titles with all caps are poor form and indicative of poor manners. 7. Everything a game developer says while a game is in development is subject to change. They aren't lying, just changing their minds or experiencing technical difficulties. DO you really think you are so important to be lied to? The Hubris knows no bounds. 8. Stop being a spoiled brat (I know I said that twice for emphasis)
Traynor Youngs Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 287	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:45:00 - [22] - Quote michael McG wrote: is there a reason why ccp's dev or gm are not commenting on this. Because they don't care, and they shouldn't care, about whiny self important beta testers who call them liars and demand answers.
Logisticus Testing Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2012.07.26 17:52:00 - [23] - Quote what i'm kind of ticked about it that i keep getting a "You have been disconnected. The server is currently not available. Press OK to retry or use the PS button to quit the game." every time i try to log in. it's 1350 EDT right now, 1750 GMT, meaning servers should be up at the moment, right? am i missing something? i haven't seen anything anywhere here that the servers are down, though they might be clogged, i suppose. Also, wasn't there supposed to be a beta event this weekend? haven't seen any more mention of that, either. just wouldn't mind knowing why i can't log in at the moment.

GM Grave Doomheim 274	Posted - 2012.07.26 18:04:00 - [24] - Quote We're aware of the post regarding new maps, however this seems to have slipped when we introduced new server locations today that took priority along with the scheduled PSN down time. We should have more info on this before downtime tomorrow. Please accept my apologies for any confusion this may have caused.

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.26 18:12:00 - [25] - Quote See, subject to change without your concent or notice. Part of your EULA agreement.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.07.26 18:14:00 - [26] - Quote GM Grave wrote: We're aware of the post regarding new maps, however this seems to have slipped when we introduced new server locations today that took priority along with the scheduled PSN down time. We should have more info on this before downtime tomorrow. Please accept my apologies for any confusion this may have caused. Thanks for braving the fire for CCP Grave. When you go back, just make sure they understand the only real reason people are getting upset is because there was no update. A simple sticky post with 30 words could have cleared it up. Still have my fingers crossed we can get at least one new map or the rest of our old ones back this weekend. There's no need for semantic games either. Craterlake, Biomass, Communication, and now Plateau should not be considered new when making announcements. New servers != new map != new game mode != updated map. Mixing them up is intentionally disappointing people.
Devil Biff Imperfects Negative-Feedback 55	Posted - 2012.07.26 18:14:00 - [27] - Quote GM Grave wrote: We're aware of the post regarding new maps, however this seems to have slipped when we introduced new server locations today that took priority along with the scheduled PSN down time. We should have more info on this before downtime tomorrow. Please accept my apologies for any confusion this may have caused. Quit play'n with my emotions.
Logisticus Testing Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2012.07.26 18:25:00 - [28] - Quote Ah, so the fact that the EU PSN servers are down effects player's in the US ability to log onto the DUST servers? guessing that makes sense, since you guys are located across the pond like that, but as i could still log into the PS store and update trophies and such, it was confusing me. please let me know, if i'm right, or clear it up if i'm not?
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 18:29:00 - [29] - Quote Logisticus Testing wrote: Ah, so the fact that the EU PSN servers are down effects player's in the US ability to log onto the DUST servers? guessing that makes sense, since you guys are located across the pond like that, but as i could still log into the PS store and update trophies and such, it was confusing me. please let me know, if i'm right, or clear it up if i'm not? Ehrm. If I understand it right, it is ALL PSN Store servers that ate down for maintenance.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.07.26 18:29:00 - [30] - Quote GM Grave wrote: We're aware of the post regarding new maps, however this seems to have slipped when we introduced new server locations today that took priority along with the scheduled PSN down time. We should have more info on this before downtime tomorrow. Please accept my apologies for any confusion this may have caused. Awww forgiven



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