DUST Search - Update #4: This week's new map is Biomass Ambush.

Laurent Cazaderon wrote:

Mike Gunnzito wrote:

Chiming In:

I personally am not complaining, bc I don't care. I don't expect anything from them.
This is just another example of why the blind ccp fanboys need to wake up when they scream to protect CCP from the various criticisms brought up about the game. Most of the criticisms are legit.

The only thing I personally am blaming CCP for is for breaking one of the cardinal rules of business.

NEVER... OVER-promise and UNDER-deliver.

Except, game isnt delivered yet. I'll join you into screaming if at release the game still doesnt offer what it promessed.
But, as there is close to nothing in the beta from the very exciting stuff i expect (planetary conquest, orbital bombardment, corporation management and alliance, player based economics, commander role, meaningfull battles in 0.0 and FW), it wouldnt be faire to judge now.

So, calm down. it's as much ridiculous to torch devs at this moment than it is to say the game is perfect as it is. Personnaly, i find the FPS mechanics pretty satisfaying providing a good pack of quite small adjustments.

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Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 13:27:00 - [61] - Quote KryptixX wrote: because the devs dont owe you an explanation to everything they are doing regarding developing the game That is correct. Partially. The Devs don't OWE us anything. However they should NOT LIE!
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.07.26 13:39:00 - [62] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: KryptixX wrote: because the devs dont owe you an explanation to everything they are doing regarding developing the game That is correct. Partially. The Devs don't OWE us anything. However they should NOT LIE! Why don't you climb down off your soap box and get back to shooting people?
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:18:00 - [63] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: KryptixX wrote: because the devs dont owe you an explanation to everything they are doing regarding developing the game That is correct. Partially. The Devs don't OWE us anything. However they should NOT LIE! Why don't you climb down off your soap box and get back to shooting people? Why don't you grow a pair?
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:21:00 - [64] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: KryptixX wrote: because the devs dont owe you an explanation to everything they are doing regarding developing the game That is correct. Partially. The Devs don't OWE us anything. However they should NOT LIE! Why don't you climb down off your soap box and get back to shooting people? Why don't you grow a pair? why dont you and stop whining like a little girl about how you didnt get your new map
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:22:00 - [65] - Quote KryptixX wrote: why dont you and stop whining like a little girl about how you didnt get your new map Have a cookie...sorry, just ate it. Now. stop projecting your own faults unto your betters.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:26:00 - [66] - Quote now you lot have started insulting each other at least a dev will comment on this thread now :)
michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:30:00 - [67] - Quote well im done with this beta. nothing new one map only for skirmish and then they try and say they are giving us a new map and its not new its just the same map that they gave us back in april. i have already figured out that i will be a heavy with a tank. no more point.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:52:00 - [68] - Quote This is exactly why people shouldn't act like a bunch of disillusion fanboys.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:54:00 - [69] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: This is exactly why people shouldn't act like a bunch of disillusion fanboys. Agreed.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:56:00 - [70] - Quote Seriously, no new skirmish map ? Hell..... And here i was thinking i was gonna play the game this week. Guess i'll wait another week then. Seriously, Plateus skirmish is waaaaay less interesting than the 2 old ones.

Mike Gunnzito 111	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:58:00 - [71] - Quote Chiming In: I personally am not complaining, bc I don't care. I don't expect anything from them. This is just another example of why the blind ccp fanboys need to wake up when they scream to protect CCP from the various criticisms brought up about the game. Most of the criticisms are legit. The only thing I personally am blaming CCP for is for breaking one of the cardinal rules of business. NEVER... OVER-promise and UNDER-deliver.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 14:59:00 - [72] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: This is exactly why people shouldn't act like a bunch of disillusion fanboys. Not accepting being lied to = disillusioned fanboy?
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:03:00 - [73] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Seriously, no new skirmish map ? Hell..... And here i was thinking i was gonna play the game this week. Guess i'll wait another week then. Seriously, Plateus skirmish is waaaaay less interesting than the 2 old ones. This is exactly what I'm trying to say. Keeping the same map, expecting the players/testers to happily play them ad infinitum is stupid. It is one thing if they needed to make sure the map is bug free, but that isn't it. If they want beta testers to keep coming back testing more, they should make sure there is something more to come back to. Mike Gunnzito wrote: The only thing I personally am blaming CCP for is for breaking one of the cardinal rules of business. NEVER... OVER-promise and UNDER-deliver. Exactly. And they did break that.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:04:00 - [74] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: This is exactly why people shouldn't act like a bunch of disillusion fanboys. Not accepting being lied to = disillusioned fanboy? CCP vaguely announces "three new maps" and the "CCP ARE THE BESTEST DEVS EVAR <3333" posts begin. Fanboy delusion is going to cause this game to fail.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:06:00 - [75] - Quote Mike Gunnzito wrote: Chiming In: I personally am not complaining, bc I don't care. I don't expect anything from them. This is just another example of why the blind ccp fanboys need to wake up when they scream to protect CCP from the various criticisms brought up about the game. Most of the criticisms are legit. The only thing I personally am blaming CCP for is for breaking one of the cardinal rules of business. NEVER... OVER-promise and UNDER-deliver. Except, game isnt delivered yet. I'll join you into screaming if at release the game still doesnt offer what it promessed. But, as there is close to nothing in the beta from the very exciting stuff i expect (planetary conquest, orbital bombardment, corporation management and alliance, player based economics, commander role, meaningfull battles in 0.0 and FW), it wouldnt be faire to judge now. So, calm down. it's as much ridiculous to torch devs at this moment than it is to say the game is perfect as it is. Personnaly, i find the FPS mechanics pretty satisfaying providing a good pack of quite small adjustments.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:08:00 - [76] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: This is exactly why people shouldn't act like a bunch of disillusion fanboys. Not accepting being lied to = disillusioned fanboy? CCP vaguely announces "three new maps" and the "CCP ARE THE BESTEST DEVS EVAR <3333" posts begin. Fanboy delusion is going to cause this game to fail. Not a fanboy, But I admit, I were happy when I saw that we'd get three new maps to test on. Then .... nothing. People don't like to be lied to, cheated or deceived. Only a fanboy would think CCP did nothing wrong, and defend the lie.
Varys Targaryen 200	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:10:00 - [77] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: CCP vaguely announces "three new maps" and the "CCP ARE THE BESTEST DEVS EVAR <3333" posts begin. Fanboy delusion is going to cause this game to fail. Did you read the Dev post? It was pretty clear. Not vague at all. Which is why a lot of us were expecting to wake up to new maps. Instead, we wake up to a new dev post and three Asian servers. Delusional fanboys are dangerous, but this isn't one of those cases.
Mike Gunnzito 111	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:12:00 - [78] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Mike Gunnzito wrote: Chiming In: I personally am not complaining, bc I don't care. I don't expect anything from them. This is just another example of why the blind ccp fanboys need to wake up when they scream to protect CCP from the various criticisms brought up about the game. Most of the criticisms are legit. The only thing I personally am blaming CCP for is for breaking one of the cardinal rules of business. NEVER... OVER-promise and UNDER-deliver. Except, game isnt delivered yet. I'll join you into screaming if at release the game still doesnt offer what it promessed. But, as there is close to nothing in the beta from the very exciting stuff i expect (planetary conquest, orbital bombardment, corporation management and alliance, player based economics, commander role, meaningfull battles in 0.0 and FW), it wouldnt be faire to judge now. So, calm down. it's as much ridiculous to torch devs at this moment than it is to say the game is perfect as it is. Personnaly, i find the FPS mechanics pretty satisfaying providing a good pack of quite small adjustments. I'm not talking about release. I'm talking about individual instances. This one in particular being the announcement of 3 new maps to be released after PSN downtime. Now CCP says 2 are still being worked on, so only one new map is released... and that "new" map isn't even new.
McFurious BetaMax. 67	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:14:00 - [79] - Quote Oh they meant 3 new servers. Well at least the folks in Asia are pretty happy.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:16:00 - [80] - Quote Mike Gunnzito wrote: I'm not talking about release. I'm talking about individual instances. This one in particular being the announcement of 3 new maps to be released after PSN downtime. Now CCP says 2 are still being worked on, so only one new map is released... and that "new" map isn't even new. Where did they say "after PSN downtime"? It was after DUST Downtime. Today, Thursday, July 26th, 2012, at 11:30 GMT. It were 100% clear and impossible to misread it. Edit: And I don't recall seeing anything about them still working on two of the maps on this forums dev posts.

Mike Gunnzito 111	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:21:00 - [81] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Mike Gunnzito wrote: I'm not talking about release. I'm talking about individual instances. This one in particular being the announcement of 3 new maps to be released after PSN downtime. Now CCP says 2 are still being worked on, so only one new map is released... and that "new" map isn't even new. Where did they say "after PSN downtime"? It was after DUST Downtime. Today, Thursday, July 26th, 2012, at 11:30 GMT. It were 100% clear and impossible to misread it. Edit: And I don't recall seeing anything about them still working on two of the maps on this forums dev posts. read one of the posts above. It's got a link to a dev tweet, stating 2maps are WIP.
Arpentis 28	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:24:00 - [82] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Mike Gunnzito wrote: I'm not talking about release. I'm talking about individual instances. This one in particular being the announcement of 3 new maps to be released after PSN downtime. Now CCP says 2 are still being worked on, so only one new map is released... and that "new" map isn't even new. Where did they say "after PSN downtime"? It was after DUST Downtime. Today, Thursday, July 26th, 2012, at 11:30 GMT. It were 100% clear and impossible to misread it. Edit: And I don't recall seeing anything about them still working on two of the maps on this forums dev posts. Because they said it on Twitter.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:25:00 - [83] - Quote And i also think they meant 3 new battle servers instead of maps. In the end, CCP decided to offer better play conditions to a vast number of players from Asia. So maybe you guys could take that into consideration instead of just bitching lol. Also, when they said new maps. i always thought it would only be old skirmish. As i dont see anything new being added until next build. And, sorry for misreading your thoughts about under-delivering lol. ^^
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:32:00 - [84] - Quote Mike Gunnzito wrote: read one of the posts above. It's got a link to a dev tweet, stating 2maps are WIP. I don't use Twits, or Failbook. And this is the DUST forums, they have their dev posts for this, they should use them., not spread the posts all over the net. Rule #1: Don't lie Rule #2: keep information to your customers contained at a single point of contact.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 15:33:00 - [85] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: And i also think they meant 3 new battle servers instead of maps. Server != map
Darky SI 232	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:11:00 - [86] - Quote Calm down peeps its not worth fighting over it, we all disappointed for not getting a new maps but there is nothing we can do about it. My advice don't treat this beta as game to enjoy and get yourself excited about new things just test > give your feedback > wait for the next build and so on. Peace^^
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:13:00 - [87] - Quote Darky SI wrote: Calm down peeps its not worth fighting over it, we all disappointed for not getting a new maps but there is nothing we can do about it. My advice don't treat this beta as game to enjoy and get yourself excited about new things just test > give your feedback > wait for the next build and so on. Peace^^ Yes there is. *BURN JITA!* :P
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:16:00 - [88] - Quote Renzo Kuken wrote: tribal wyvern wrote: dust badger wrote: Update #4: This week's new map is Biomass Ambush. is that all ? is there 2 others ??????? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=218298#post218298 Well ccp frame said there would be 3 new maps today after downtime, its now after downtime and I'm not seeing anything other than biomass ambush (which we already knew about as we've had it for a while now, so by rights that shouldn't even be part of the 'we have 3 new maps' announcement) I just hope they are NEW maps and not variations of plateaus, I would like biomass skirmish back todays downtime as in friday DT Thursday July 26, 11:30gmt
Darky SI 232	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:21:00 - [89] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Darky SI wrote: Calm down peeps its not worth fighting over it, we all disappointed for not getting a new maps but there is nothing we can do about it. My advice don't treat this beta as game to enjoy and get yourself excited about new things just test > give your feedback > wait for the next build and so on. Peace^^ Yes there is. *BURN JITA!* :P or we could do this^ lol
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:23:00 - [90] - Quote Arpentis wrote: Because they said it on Twitter. I feel dumb already, for even trying to see what they said on Twits. Twits is down, and no news outlets cared. That should tell you that no one else should care either.



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