i think that a vocal minority of the beta testers don't realize that they're beta testers, under nda, this is a work in progress, not for review as it says every time you play the game.

The biggest problem, as it stands right now, is that some gamers appear to have been conditioned to believe that a "beta" of a game is representative of the "final product", which is not at all true. Because of this, there are even players nowadays that willfully and knowingly (emphasis on the word "knowingly") disregard the Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) that they accepted once they logged into the closed beta just for the sole purpose of posting what they see on YouTube and calling the game a piece of **** long before the game even has a chance to fully materialize. We already had several such instances on YouTube which has the potential to harm future development of the game.

Also, never trust IGN. They're in bed with EA.

I think there are 2 things to draw from this.
Firstly the current build was the wrong one to let IGN play. Because of E3 everyone expected more than they got. Last build was CLEARLY a beta. The game works now. If they crashed every 3 games they wouldn't have had time to get a proper opinion :)
Secondly, if you let people in on a temporary basis, expect NDA to mean LoLwut?

I just like to imagine that they confused beta with alpha, or that they just mean to say "Work In Progress Build with Monthly Updates"

Flame away. I have the right to an opinion.

Tbf, the download could be considered a time investment....just saying.

Just wondering because the comments on there are pretty, Pretty negative, and leads me to wonder if CCP has opened the flood gates to the masses a bit to early. After all one cannot deny that what they say is sadly true, poor graphics, poor mechanics, poor map, (IMO, the current build was a step down) but this game does, as I've said for the past year, has the potential to be one of the biggest games on PS3 if it's done right, and I have to say, I really am starting to worry. I know that most of the more unique features to this game have yet to be opened. Close knit clan features, tactical and stretigic warfare, and interaction with your loathsome EvEers. (joke )

So, has Anyone else read through the articles and comments, and if you have, what do you make of them. Also, I know how little respect you guys have for ign, yet one cant Say they have little influence in the gaming community, and a lot of them have been in the bata, so, what do all of ye think?

It takes about 10 seconds to set the download up, then set it to background download and go do other things while it happens.

Really, then why did download and installation take me six hours?

I said this would happen before they released it to IGN noobs, no-one listened and they locked my thread. GG CCP.

Yeah, to be honest i don't really understand why they are doing these temporary access "beta weekend" events. It would be one thing of the temp access folks were playing on a separate server, where they could play and learn the ropes together in relative equality. However, for some inexplicable reason CCP decided it was a good idea to throw a bunch of rank newbies in with a bunch of beta vets who had been super accelerated to something like 3-4 months progress in just a few weeks.

So in addition to having to deal with the unfinished mechanics, they're getting curbstomped for 4 days by hundreds of players with more experience and better gear. It can't make for a very good game play experience, and if CCP was looking use this for some positive PR i don't think it's going to do the job.

It takes about 10 seconds to set the download up, then set it to background download and go do other things while it happens.

Really, then why did download and installation take me six hours?

Just wondering because the comments on there are pretty, Pretty negative, and leads me to wonder if CCP has opened the flood gates to the masses a bit to early. After all one cannot deny that what they say is sadly true, poor graphics, poor mechanics, poor map, (IMO, the current build was a step down) but this game does, as I've said for the past year, has the potential to be one of the biggest games on PS3 if it's done right, and I have to say, I really am starting to worry. I know that most of the more unique features to this game have yet to be opened. Close knit clan features, tactical and stretigic warfare, and interaction with your loathsome EvEers. (joke )

So, has Anyone else read through the articles and comments, and if you have, what do you make of them. Also, I know how little respect you guys have for ign, yet one cant Say they have little influence in the gaming community, and a lot of them have been in the bata, so, what do all of ye think?

The biggest problem, as it stands right now, is that some gamers appear to have been conditioned to believe that a "beta" of a game is representative of the "final product", which is not at all true. Because of this, there are even players nowadays that willfully and knowingly (emphasis on the word "knowingly") disregard the Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) that they accepted once they logged into the closed beta just for the sole purpose of posting what they see on YouTube and calling the game a piece of **** long before the game even has a chance to fully materialize. We already had several such instances on YouTube which has the potential to harm future development of the game.

Also, never trust IGN. They're in bed with EA.