DUST Search - "Dust is not a True FPS"

Templar Two wrote:

Is Shooting in First Person enough to qualify Dust 514 as a FPS? YES.
Is it enough to make it a quality FPS? NO.

Now Dust gives a lot of emphasis to Character Building, and we have already FPS/shooters that have this BUT what is really important is how much this RPG elements interfere with the FPS mechanics.
Each VG ask you to apply your skills as a player in a specific task and what is that task in FPS? Shooting.
In FPS you are measured on the quality of you shooting which is determined by 2 things: your reflexes & thinking!
In classic RPG reflexes are important but not as important as in FPS or fighting games or hack & slash.
Action RPG like Demon/Dark Souls give more importance to your reflexes but still without a good character build (gear & in-game skills) you can't truly compete BUT it's intended that way because it's a RPG and there's nothing wrong in it because it's feasible to do that.
Now, the music changes for a FPS because in FPS reflexes are historically 95% of the experience and so you can't say to the FPS player "you need the right gear & in-game skills"...that works for RPG but not for FPS.
Purist of FPS won't like the emphasis CCP is giving to RPG elements simply because it's not what FPS player game for!

CCP has no experience whatsoever in FPS but plenty in RPG so they are doing what they do best but is it right thing for a FPS MMO?
Shouldn't they change this before it's too late as many here say?

Also I would like to say that COD does what it does perfectly, same for BF, Halo & Killzone.
You don't have to like them (I don't like COD because it's too arcade for my taste) but saying that those franchises don't excel it's a lie!

Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:

Don't worry, the game is a long way from finished. This isn't like the BF3 beta or the StarHawk beta where we are seeing what is really just a demo, not really a beta at all. I'm guessing that we are still 6 months to a year from release, CCP has plenty of time to make changes.

I really am looking forward to how the different player backgrounds affect the team play upon the final release, with the influx of players curious what CCP has to offer.

I am sorry to disappoint you but Dust 514 is not 12 months from it's release since it's confirmed to be a 2012 title.
Now we don't even know if it is scheduled for December 2012 so NOBODY can say we have still 6 months left for it to be better.
Also consider that Dust 514 has been in development for a lot of time and that there is always a "non return point" so many things CAN'T be changed!


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GT8920-26 Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.07.24 22:45:00 - [1] - Quote Templar Two wrote: Is Shooting in First Person enough to qualify Dust 514 as a FPS? YES. Is it enough to make it a quality FPS? NO. Now Dust gives a lot of emphasis to Character Building, and we have already FPS/shooters that have this BUT what is really important is how much this RPG elements interfere with the FPS mechanics. Each VG ask you to apply your skills as a player in a specific task and what is that task in FPS? Shooting. In FPS you are measured on the quality of you shooting which is determined by 2 things: your reflexes & thinking! In classic RPG reflexes are important but not as important as in FPS or fighting games or hack & slash. Action RPG like Demon/Dark Souls give more importance to your reflexes but still without a good character build (gear & in-game skills) you can't truly compete BUT it's intended that way because it's a RPG and there's nothing wrong in it because it's feasible to do that. Now, the music changes for a FPS because in FPS reflexes are historically 95% of the experience and so you can't say to the FPS player "you need the right gear & in-game skills"...that works for RPG but not for FPS. Purist of FPS won't like the emphasis CCP is giving to RPG elements simply because it's not what FPS player game for! CCP has no experience whatsoever in FPS but plenty in RPG so they are doing what they do best but is it right thing for a FPS MMO? Shouldn't they change this before it's too late as many here say? Also I would like to say that COD does what it does perfectly, same for BF, Halo & Killzone. You don't have to like them (I don't like COD because it's too arcade for my taste) but saying that those franchises don't excel it's a lie! Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: Don't worry, the game is a long way from finished. This isn't like the BF3 beta or the StarHawk beta where we are seeing what is really just a demo, not really a beta at all. I'm guessing that we are still 6 months to a year from release, CCP has plenty of time to make changes. I really am looking forward to how the different player backgrounds affect the team play upon the final release, with the influx of players curious what CCP has to offer. I am sorry to disappoint you but Dust 514 is not 12 months from it's release since it's confirmed to be a 2012 title. Now we don't even know if it is scheduled for December 2012 so NOBODY can say we have still 6 months left for it to be better. Also consider that Dust 514 has been in development for a lot of time and that there is always a "non return point" so many things CAN'T be changed! I'd give you 20 likes if I could. Given the stated release this year, the likelihood of having passed the point of no return is disconcerting. I hope that's not the case the the FPS mechanics get cleaned up.