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Grit Breather
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:11:00 -
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I can't even count the number of times I've seen a player call in a dropship and even though I'm right next to it and running towards it to get in, it just took off without me at full speed. I've seen this happen with LAV's and HAV's as well. The driver gets in and just runs off.
Stop this! Dropships used as gunships need a minimum of 3 players on board. Tanks need 3 players to be able to defend themselves (and no matter what you tell me, the turrets on a tank are DEFFENSIVE and NOT offensive) and LAV's need at least 2 players to fulfill their roles. If you use LAV's as transports (ex. Getting a person to an objective fast and dropping him off) they need a full crew of 3 players. Dropships can have a full crew of 7 players! That's 1 piloting, 2 more defending/offending and another 4 dropping out when needed at objectives or to take out immediate threats.
So why am I seeing so many players just using these vehicles as disposable one-way rides? Are you mad?? When you get your vehicle and nobody wants to get in, go ahead and run off. But give them a chance first. I even go as far as chasing people with my dropship just to get them in. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
But come on! At least give 1% of your thought towards what you're doing. Most people just make no sense to me. |
HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:18:00 -
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Unfortunately that is exactly what they are your own personal taxi. Its because there free essentially.
Come on heavy suit hop in, pull up a few feet wait for him to catch up, pull up a little more again wait for him to catch up again then pull off laughing the whole time, come on you know you've done it... or had it done to you.. |
Grit Breather
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:20:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Unfortunately that is exactly what they are your own personal taxi. Its because there free essentially. Come on heavy suit hop in, pull up a few feet wait for him to catch up, pull up a little more again wait for him to catch up again then pull off laughing the whole time, come on you know you've done it... or had it done to you.. I have not. That's bad. I do sometimes try nudging people into getting it. I stop beside them and push them slightly. Think of it as a HUGE dog face demanding attention. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:24:00 -
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I use myrons and somtimes even the eryx as a disposible taxi.
Think its best you just let me do my thing bro |
Grit Breather
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Posted - 2012.07.22 12:26:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:I use myrons and somtimes even the eryx as a disposible taxi. Think its best you just let me do my thing bro Fine. Use it as a taxi. But take someone with you so they can keep using it after you get of to tower camp. No reason we should all lose because you want your K/D. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.22 13:17:00 -
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I actually played in a game yesterday where I had a gentleman that was camping a dropship on top of one of the towers.
Funny thing is, he was calling out enemies and was doing a really good job letting me know where people were coming from.
I still think it is a crap tactic, but god damn was I enjoying his help.
If you're up there just firing away with no mic, GTFO
If you're up there just firing away with a mic calling out enemy positions, you nooblet, but thank you |
Grit Breather
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Posted - 2012.07.22 13:24:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:I actually played in a game yesterday where I had a gentleman that was camping a dropship on top of one of the towers. Funny thing is, he was calling out enemies and was doing a really good job letting me know where people were coming from. I still think it is a crap tactic, but god damn was I enjoying his help. If you're up there just firing away with no mic, GTFO If you're up there just firing away with a mic calling out enemy positions, you nooblet, but thank you If they're being useful, good for them. But they shouldn't be pilots. They should be passengers. I can easily imagine a squad starting a match in a dropship the drops them off on towers and leaves them with drop uplinks and nanohives. That way they can be self sufficient, renewable and deadly while not costing the team a vehicle. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.07.22 13:40:00 -
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Some times it just takes on guy to get in a high place to place drop uplinks, forge gun a problem dropship ie the nooblets that camp on the towers and remove snipers that are stopping your team capin a point. Cant tell me using it as a taxi is of no use. As for the K/D ratio it means nothing to me its all about winning and having fun doing it.
Also i has a mic for in game and outa game coms and always try to get my team to win so your preaching K/D whor at the wrong guy buddy. |
Grit Breather
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Posted - 2012.07.22 13:44:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Some times it just takes on guy to get in a high place to place drop uplinks, forge gun a problem dropship ie the nooblets that camp on the towers and remove snipers that are stopping your team capin a point. Cant tell me using it as a taxi is of no use. As for the K/D ratio it means nothing to me its all about winning and having fun doing it.
Also i has a mic for in game and outa game coms and always try to get my team to win so your preaching K/D whor at the wrong guy buddy. Alright, I'll bite. So you spawned your super-duper flying fortress and took off alone. You landed at a tower, got out and left a drop uplink. Great. But now what do you do? You're stuck in a dropship with two unmanned guns and are basically flying bait. That is, until you either ditch it or lose it to just continue running around with the rest of them.
Did this get any team objectives completed? Very slightly. You fielded a flying fortress to run an errand.
So no. I don't think you're acting in the best interest of your team. You should wait and pick up a crew. Then you can run off dropping any uplinks you want to drop and continue helping your team by being a good pilot. |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.22 13:49:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Unfortunately that is exactly what they are your own personal taxi. Its because there free essentially. Come on heavy suit hop in, pull up a few feet wait for him to catch up, pull up a little more again wait for him to catch up again then pull off laughing the whole time, come on you know you've done it... or had it done to you.. I have not. That's bad. I do sometimes try nudging people into getting it. I stop beside them and push them slightly. Think of it as a HUGE dog face demanding attention.
Geez, Grit. I am afraid that if I jump into one of your dropships that you are gonna run off on one of your exploring runs deep in the Red Zone....lol j/k.....I might never get home!
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Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.22 13:56:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:Grit Breather wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Unfortunately that is exactly what they are your own personal taxi. Its because there free essentially. Come on heavy suit hop in, pull up a few feet wait for him to catch up, pull up a little more again wait for him to catch up again then pull off laughing the whole time, come on you know you've done it... or had it done to you.. I have not. That's bad. I do sometimes try nudging people into getting it. I stop beside them and push them slightly. Think of it as a HUGE dog face demanding attention. Geez, Grit. I am afraid that if I jump into one of your dropships that you are gonna run off on one of your exploring runs deep in the Red Zone....lol j/k.....I might never get home! You'll get home. In a body bag...
When I go off exploring it's the only time I take off fast not letting anyone on board. I don't want to see their faces when they figure out where the dropship's going. It'll be like "OMG WTF is the pilot doing?!?! We'll die!" and then "I can't jump out, I'll die. But I can't stay here, I'll die. Oh look at the beautiful valley!".
On second thought, maybe I will take passengers with me. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.22 14:06:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:I can't even count the number of times I've seen a player call in a dropship and even though I'm right next to it and running towards it to get in, it just took off without me at full speed. I've seen this happen with LAV's and HAV's as well. The driver gets in and just runs off.
Stop this! .
I'm ony using the drop ships as 1-man "taxis" because people have this wonderful idea that if the pilot gets out, then the ship is free for whomever wants it, even if that pilot runs around planting equipment. (Drop links, nano hives, re or something like it)
I'm doing what more should, make non fixed spawn and rearm points. |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.22 14:11:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:SoLJae wrote:Grit Breather wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Unfortunately that is exactly what they are your own personal taxi. Its because there free essentially. Come on heavy suit hop in, pull up a few feet wait for him to catch up, pull up a little more again wait for him to catch up again then pull off laughing the whole time, come on you know you've done it... or had it done to you.. I have not. That's bad. I do sometimes try nudging people into getting it. I stop beside them and push them slightly. Think of it as a HUGE dog face demanding attention. Geez, Grit. I am afraid that if I jump into one of your dropships that you are gonna run off on one of your exploring runs deep in the Red Zone....lol j/k.....I might never get home! You'll get home. In a body bag... When I go off exploring it's the only time I take off fast not letting anyone on board. I don't want to see their faces when they figure out where the dropship's going. It'll be like "OMG WTF is the pilot doing?!?! We'll die!" and then "I can't jump out, I'll die. But I can't stay here, I'll die. Oh look at the beautiful valley!". On second thought, maybe I will take passengers with me.
Charge 'em ISK......you could be a tour guide!
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Grit Breather
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Posted - 2012.07.22 14:12:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Grit Breather wrote:I can't even count the number of times I've seen a player call in a dropship and even though I'm right next to it and running towards it to get in, it just took off without me at full speed. I've seen this happen with LAV's and HAV's as well. The driver gets in and just runs off.
Stop this! . I'm ony using the drop ships as 1-man "taxis" because people have this wonderful idea that if the pilot gets out, then the ship is free for whomever wants it, even if that pilot runs around planting equipment. (Drop links, nano hives, re or something like it) I'm doing what more should, make non fixed spawn and rearm points. The Dust community has to evolve. I'm fine with keeping the 12 year olds but we really have to get rid of their mentality. I understand your reasoning and would probably do the same. The thing is, it's not up to you to plant stuff. You should keep the ship in the air and others should get out and plant stuff. So yeah, you're moving the game along and helping your team win. Others need to be as educated as you.
Keep up the good work. I just think your passengers should get out and do their jobs. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.07.22 14:15:00 -
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Lolz love the little fictional story I just myself into. Not sure why your buthurt so bad, sorry if taxi drivers make you mad.
If I see you on my team I will be sure to pick you up as an olive branch or somthing
Personaly I'm all about my team but I guess we havent been in the same games cos I aint a half bad support pilot maybe when your gunning for me you can give me some tips on how im flying.
Edit also when I got a few jobs to do havign some noob gunner jump in the drivign seat is a pain cos then i have to throw away 2 x eryx |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2012.07.22 17:32:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:I actually played in a game yesterday where I had a gentleman that was camping a dropship on top of one of the towers. Funny thing is, he was calling out enemies and was doing a really good job letting me know where people were coming from. I still think it is a crap tactic, but god damn was I enjoying his help. If you're up there just firing away with no mic, GTFO If you're up there just firing away with a mic calling out enemy positions, you nooblet, but thank you If they're being useful, good for them. But they shouldn't be pilots. They should be passengers. I can easily imagine a squad starting a match in a dropship the drops them off on towers and leaves them with drop uplinks and nanohives. That way they can be self sufficient, renewable and deadly while not costing the team a vehicle. I actually do this every round. I do often see AV and snipers using it as well. You are all very welcome. |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.22 17:37:00 -
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As a AV specialist, I would really like to request that all Dropships get filled to capacity before takeoff.
And that all passengers keep arms, legs, and bodies inside the dropship until it hits the ground and explodes, giving me +30 WP for the dropship kill and + 350 WP for the wet works.
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Honestly, I see this being less of a problem when team play comes in. There will be dropship pilots who are happy to load up and drop off infantry support at various locales. As it is, without real teamplay or consistently effective comms, the infantry pretty much has to get themselves where they want to go.
The plethora of free vehicles doesn't help... |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:05:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Keep up the good work. I just think your passengers should get out and do their jobs.
If only more people would be on comms, this would be easy to resolve... :)
Sadly too many of those that are on comms, are using very loud sound systems for DUST, often I can hear THEIR TV better than I can my own. |
Pezz IsDank
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:10:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:I actually played in a game yesterday where I had a gentleman that was camping a dropship on top of one of the towers. Funny thing is, he was calling out enemies and was doing a really good job letting me know where people were coming from. I still think it is a crap tactic, but god damn was I enjoying his help. If you're up there just firing away with no mic, GTFO If you're up there just firing away with a mic calling out enemy positions, you nooblet, but thank you
Yah my worst match yesterday, 18/10. Must have shot at least 60 missiles at that dropship, all gave me X marks, saw it on fire even but wouldn't go down. Seemed to only be a gorgon too. Hate how bad swarm launchers are against dropships camped on the towers. Easily caused half of my deaths -.- |
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