DUST Search - stereotypes

Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:

xprotoman23 wrote:

competitive COD players can give most people a run for their money. COD players are painted in a negative light due to the nature of playing pubz in COD. The competitive COD community is just as capable as any other community to be a force.

I disagree. The CoD players aren't used to the type of gameplay that Dust has to offer. They are used to the type of game where every situation is balanced, the only thing that really matters in the race to victory is the guy with faster and more accurate twitch aiming. Having a long range sniper to take out the most dangerous infantry is a necessity in CoD, or having a dropship pilot using a mobile spawn to get Mercs in and out of the hotspots isn't important, because in CoD, the maps are so much smaller, everything is done on foot.

CoD players in mass on foot will out do another team that is unorganized and also on foot. But take a strategic team from MAG, that is practiced with roles in the battle, and they will be outdone. I am putting my money on the MAG Corps to be the dominating force in the world of Dust.

This is all assuming that no one has any contacts in EVE for these battles. A group of CoD players calling in Orbital Bombardment on a team of MAG players with no EVE support, and I would be willing to bet on the CoD players.

I would really like to see the playerbase take full advantage of the sandbox and how it works, and get rid of all these damn stereotypes. But as it stands, the community will remain split for a while.

It's also very easy to tell who you are playing with in game, when people are using the comms. CoD players "HOW THE ****!? THAT GUY IS HACKING OMG SCRUB". MAG players "Alright we need support over at B and we have to take out that dropship up on the north east tower. Who's got a Sagaris and who's got a Forge Gun?". :)

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Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.07.18 00:59:00 - [1] - Quote Lets stop with all the stereotypes please. Not all fps players are e peen stroking CoD kiddies that won't be able to comprehend a complex fps. Some are but not all. Not all eve players can't aim on console and camp in pink dropships all game. Some do but not all. So let keep the ignorance to a minimum. I'm tired of being called a console kiddie when I have 1000s of hours put into mmos and fps.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:01:00 - [2] - Quote That stopped awhile ago. for most, it seems
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:07:00 - [3] - Quote 1000's of hrs...wow, that's so....
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:07:00 - [4] - Quote I still see several references to "Scrubs", most of these clearly coming from the CoD players - they have the heaviest "nerf Them buff Me" attitude here on the forums. The EVE players are in here sometimes, and they are often the ones yelling at the "console kiddies". Then there are the MAG players, they are the strategists that are commonly trying to solve strategic issues. I think the MAG players and the EVE players are going to get along the best, and the CoD players are going to scream and shout about how much everything is to OP until they begin to understand the sandbox and how it works. I say give it another 6 months, the major groups will start to merge at some point, and as the beta grows, the groups will blend more and more.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:11:00 - [5] - Quote Lol look at those nerd dusties spending hours with a dumb world of gaycraft space game lololol man im gonna go bang my gf der der der That's how they will see us.
Anatoly Gasputin Doomheim 40	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:14:00 - [6] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Lol look at those nerd dusties spending hours with a dumb world of gaycraft space game lololol man im gonna go bang my gf der der der That's how they will see us. And you care?
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:14:00 - [7] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Lol look at those nerd dusties spending hours with a dumb world of gaycraft space game lololol man im gonna go bang my gf der der der That's how they will see us. Thats how who will see us...?
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:16:00 - [8] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: 1000's of hrs...wow, that's so.... 1000+ hours isn't really that much. Ive seen people put up 3000 4000 and even 5000 hours on one game. That is insane and I have seen plenty of player cards that have these kinds of hours.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:16:00 - [9] - Quote Already made this thread.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:17:00 - [10] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: 1000's of hrs...wow, that's so.... 1000+ hours isn't really that much. Ive seen people put up 3000 4000 and even 5000 hours on one game. That is insane and I have seen plenty of player cards that have these kinds of hours. I wish i could check my hours on League of Legends, I must have a ton on there.

RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:18:00 - [11] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Already made this thread.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:19:00 - [12] - Quote competitive COD players can give most people a run for their money. COD players are painted in a negative light due to the nature of playing pubz in COD. The competitive COD community is just as capable as any other community to be a force.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:27:00 - [13] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: competitive COD players can give most people a run for their money. COD players are painted in a negative light due to the nature of playing pubz in COD. The competitive COD community is just as capable as any other community to be a force. Agreed. But they'll stick with CoD. Or Medal of Honor. Lasers just don't float some peoples boat.
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:30:00 - [14] - Quote peen stroking thread?!?! where do i sign!?!??!!!??!
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:31:00 - [15] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: competitive COD players can give most people a run for their money. COD players are painted in a negative light due to the nature of playing pubz in COD. The competitive COD community is just as capable as any other community to be a force. I disagree. The CoD players aren't used to the type of gameplay that Dust has to offer. They are used to the type of game where every situation is balanced, the only thing that really matters in the race to victory is the guy with faster and more accurate twitch aiming. Having a long range sniper to take out the most dangerous infantry is a necessity in CoD, or having a dropship pilot using a mobile spawn to get Mercs in and out of the hotspots isn't important, because in CoD, the maps are so much smaller, everything is done on foot. CoD players in mass on foot will out do another team that is unorganized and also on foot. But take a strategic team from MAG, that is practiced with roles in the battle, and they will be outdone. I am putting my money on the MAG Corps to be the dominating force in the world of Dust. This is all assuming that no one has any contacts in EVE for these battles. A group of CoD players calling in Orbital Bombardment on a team of MAG players with no EVE support, and I would be willing to bet on the CoD players. I would really like to see the playerbase take full advantage of the sandbox and how it works, and get rid of all these damn stereotypes. But as it stands, the community will remain split for a while. It's also very easy to tell who you are playing with in game, when people are using the comms. CoD players "HOW THE ****!? THAT GUY IS HACKING OMG SCRUB". MAG players "Alright we need support over at B and we have to take out that dropship up on the north east tower. Who's got a Sagaris and who's got a Forge Gun?". :)
Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:59:00 - [16] - Quote CoD players will be levelling up AR's, while other will level up more dropsuit and vehicle centric options. As the stereotype goes.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:26:00 - [17] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: competitive COD players can give most people a run for their money. COD players are painted in a negative light due to the nature of playing pubz in COD. The competitive COD community is just as capable as any other community to be a force. I disagree. The CoD players aren't used to the type of gameplay that Dust has to offer. They are used to the type of game where every situation is balanced, the only thing that really matters in the race to victory is the guy with faster and more accurate twitch aiming. Having a long range sniper to take out the most dangerous infantry is a necessity in CoD, or having a dropship pilot using a mobile spawn to get Mercs in and out of the hotspots isn't important, because in CoD, the maps are so much smaller, everything is done on foot. CoD players in mass on foot will out do another team that is unorganized and also on foot. But take a strategic team from MAG, that is practiced with roles in the battle, and they will be outdone. I am putting my money on the MAG Corps to be the dominating force in the world of Dust. This is all assuming that no one has any contacts in EVE for these battles. A group of CoD players calling in Orbital Bombardment on a team of MAG players with no EVE support, and I would be willing to bet on the CoD players. I would really like to see the playerbase take full advantage of the sandbox and how it works, and get rid of all these damn stereotypes. But as it stands, the community will remain split for a while. It's also very easy to tell who you are playing with in game, when people are using the comms. CoD players "HOW THE ****!? THAT GUY IS HACKING OMG SCRUB". MAG players "Alright we need support over at B and we have to take out that dropship up on the north east tower. Who's got a Sagaris and who's got a Forge Gun?". :) We're talking about two different groups of COD players. The competitive COD player base that plays MLG/GB/COD Elite is completely different from the players found in pubz. The competitive COD community never gets enough credit and people honestly shouldn't sleep on them. They'll be as competitive if not more completive than the MAG community or any other community coming to this game.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:31:00 - [18] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: We're talking about two different groups of COD players. The competitive COD player base that plays MLG/GB/COD Elite is completely different from the players found in pubz. The competitive COD community never gets enough credit and people honestly shouldn't sleep on them. They'll be as competitive if not more completive than the MAG community or any other community coming to this game. The issue isn't whether or not they use some team base gameplay rather than worrying about personal KDR, the issue is that the play style is simply, different. The use of vehicles and control points and even points of strategic value that vary from the actual A, B, C, control points. It's very different from CoD, regardless of competitiveness.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:42:00 - [19] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Lol look at those nerd dusties spending hours with a dumb world of gaycraft space game lololol man im gonna go bang my gf der der der That's how they will see us. A Lannister always repays his debts. I'll be collecting when the server goes up.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:44:00 - [20] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: We're talking about two different groups of COD players. The competitive COD player base that plays MLG/GB/COD Elite is completely different from the players found in pubz. The competitive COD community never gets enough credit and people honestly shouldn't sleep on them. They'll be as competitive if not more completive than the MAG community or any other community coming to this game. The issue isn't whether or not they use some team base gameplay rather than worrying about personal KDR, the issue is that the play style is simply, different. The use of vehicles and control points and even points of strategic value that vary from the actual A, B, C, control points. It's very different from CoD, regardless of competitiveness. Look up the rats clan. They are a GB/MLG CoD team that also dominates on BF3 with great tactics. They can adapt and if they were to come to dust they would adapt here just fine. Check them out. http://www.youtube.com/show?p=6SIri80jvwM

PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:51:00 - [21] - Quote FPS skills are transferable to most games. DUST isn't that hard to figure out. If you're good at MAG/BF3/CoD/KZ3 you'll probably be good at this game.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:51:00 - [22] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: We're talking about two different groups of COD players. The competitive COD player base that plays MLG/GB/COD Elite is completely different from the players found in pubz. The competitive COD community never gets enough credit and people honestly shouldn't sleep on them. They'll be as competitive if not more completive than the MAG community or any other community coming to this game. The issue isn't whether or not they use some team base gameplay rather than worrying about personal KDR, the issue is that the play style is simply, different. The use of vehicles and control points and even points of strategic value that vary from the actual A, B, C, control points. It's very different from CoD, regardless of competitiveness. People are always going to play for personal stats in pubz. Your discrediting the competitive COD community by using the general experience found in pubz.
Armatsu Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 33	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:52:00 - [23] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: We're talking about two different groups of COD players. The competitive COD player base that plays MLG/GB/COD Elite is completely different from the players found in pubz. The competitive COD community never gets enough credit and people honestly shouldn't sleep on them. They'll be as competitive if not more completive than the MAG community or any other community coming to this game. The issue isn't whether or not they use some team base gameplay rather than worrying about personal KDR, the issue is that the play style is simply, different. The use of vehicles and control points and even points of strategic value that vary from the actual A, B, C, control points. It's very different from CoD, regardless of competitiveness. You know nothing about COD. The difference between a professional FPS player and the average player has nothing to do with KDR, reaction timing, or even the balance of weapons. There is a lot more strategy and securing vital areas of the map (even if the objective isn't there) than there is twitch shooting at a competitive level. To be a professional you must adapt instantly to the pace of the game and work well with a team. There are thousands of players who have borderline aimbot shooting skills but there are only a few pro's. The difference isn't in their skill with a weapon but instead the mental aspect of the game.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:52:00 - [24] - Quote PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote: FPS skills are transferable to most games. DUST isn't that hard to figure out. If you're good at MAG/BF3/CoD/KZ3 you'll probably be good at this game. This game is almost identical to MAG/BF3 in terms of objective game modes and people still don't have them quite figured out
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:53:00 - [25] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote: FPS skills are transferable to most games. DUST isn't that hard to figure out. If you're good at MAG/BF3/CoD/KZ3 you'll probably be good at this game. This game is almost identical to MAG/BF3 in terms of objective game modes and people still don't have them quite figured out It is baffling The game isn't that hard to figure out.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.18 03:00:00 - [26] - Quote PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote: FPS skills are transferable to most games. DUST isn't that hard to figure out. If you're good at MAG/BF3/CoD/KZ3 you'll probably be good at this game. This game is almost identical to MAG/BF3 in terms of objective game modes and people still don't have them quite figured out It is baffling The game isn't that hard to figure out. sadly people really are just dumb and the same stupid **** they did in BF and MAG the continue to do in DUST.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.18 03:16:00 - [27] - Quote The way the gamemodes work aren't that important... It's the importance of vehicle warfare and the use of the map such as the towers on Plateaus. It's also about specialization in different roles and team diversity. I just don't see CoD players being the dominant force in Dust at this point. Besides, players that are "Competitive Professionals" in CoD will probably stay in CoD.
W0olley Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 242	Posted - 2012.07.18 04:18:00 - [28] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: The way the gamemodes work aren't that important... It's the importance of vehicle warfare and the use of the map such as the towers on Plateaus. It's also about specialization in different roles and team diversity. I just don't see CoD players being the dominant force in Dust at this point. Besides, players that are "Competitive Professionals" in CoD will probably stay in CoD. If you think these things are complicated then you must have a small I.Q. Vehicles aren't anything new and foreign. Vehicles are in CoD and have been and people are pretty quick at how to use them and how to destroy them. And cheap things like the towers on Plateaus just aren't going to work in a real clan battle, they just aren't. And if you've ever seen a CoD clan match you would see how people play different strategic roles during the match, you won't see that in a pub game because it's a pub game... I don't even play CoD but to say it doesn't really transfer over at all it stupid. Dust is pretty much like every other shooter out there, whether you admit or not, just with worse controls.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.19 00:47:00 - [29] - Quote W0olley wrote: Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: The way the gamemodes work aren't that important... It's the importance of vehicle warfare and the use of the map such as the towers on Plateaus. It's also about specialization in different roles and team diversity. I just don't see CoD players being the dominant force in Dust at this point. Besides, players that are "Competitive Professionals" in CoD will probably stay in CoD. If you think these things are complicated then you must have a small I.Q. Vehicles aren't anything new and foreign. Vehicles are in CoD and have been and people are pretty quick at how to use them and how to destroy them. And cheap things like the towers on Plateaus just aren't going to work in a real clan battle, they just aren't. And if you've ever seen a CoD clan match you would see how people play different strategic roles during the match, you won't see that in a pub game because it's a pub game... I don't even play CoD but to say it doesn't really transfer over at all it stupid. Dust is pretty much like every other shooter out there, whether you admit or not, just with worse controls. I love how dude was trying to discredit the competitive COD community by using pubz.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.07.19 01:06:00 - [30] - Quote Oh my lord. Thank you for the good laugh. I always seem to laugh aloud whenever someone brings up MLG, GB, or anything they believe to be "competitive". Especially when people call themselves or others pro. What a riot of laughter. Keep it up. I love when people defend it. Let me just grab some popcorn, and a soda. How I really feel abou the issue. Not worth my time when it comes to tweens and their oh so precious MLG (Majorly Loud Griefers) and how pro they think they, or others are. You give gamers a bad reputation. Infact I'd probably categorize you along the same lines as the gnome sitting somewhere in Korea farming gold for USD and the morons whom waste money on farmed gold. Mm! Tasty haterade!

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.19 01:48:00 - [31] - Quote You guys are getting it all wrong. The cool kids are calling it "Em Ell Jee" nowadays. Keep up.


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