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DUSTPLAYER 060720121333
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:12:00 -
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Edited by GM Kiriap. |
GSP GoTSoMePoT
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:20:00 -
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LOL 
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Lorebot
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:43:00 -
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Can't tell if serious or troll...
Guessing troll...
Nice :) |
DUSTPLAYER 060720121333
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:51:00 -
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Oh I am deadly serious! I was not aware that a sack intended to contain balls was in some way copyright infringing.
Unless they are assuming it means *******, which is silly. If I wanted to be called Flappy McScrotum then I would have called myself that. But even assuming they did think I mean *******, how is that wrong?
Its not that big of an issue really, but dont understand why my names were deemed wrong in some way whereas "Long Arm" or "All Seeing Eye" or "Richard Head" or such are deemed ok... Or at least I assume they would be deemed ok, dont actually have chars named that,
Are you not allowed to have a bodypart in your name? Not that a ball sack is a body part of course.
Its not like I had a name such as "XYZ all [insert ethnic group here]" or something along those lines...
I am genuinely confused. |
Lorebot
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:57:00 -
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DUSTPLAYER 060720121333 wrote:Edited by GM Kiriap.
That's your answer right there.
And you're absolutely right, it can apply to any name and will be interpreted as needed. It's CCP's game, so CCP makes the rules. If you don't like it, then go play something else. I've been playing EVE and working with CCP's rules for nearly 9 years now, they've always been fair, but they expect you to be an adult. Vulgarity won't be tolerated and I appreciate that as a player. I don't want to see 'Flappy McScrotum' or any other such adolescent garbage when I'm playing, and if my nephew walks in the room I certainly don't want him seeing it either. |
DUSTPLAYER 060720121333
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:00:00 -
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Lorebot wrote:That's your answer right there.
And you're absolutely right, it can apply to any name and will be interpreted as needed. It's CCP's game, so CCP makes the rules. If you don't like it, then go play something else. I've been playing EVE and working with CCP's rules for nearly 9 years now, they've always been fair, but they expect you to be an adult. Vulgarity won't be tolerated and I appreciate that as a player. I don't want to see 'Flappy McScrotum' or any other such adolescent garbage when I'm playing, and if my nephew walks in the room I certainly don't want him seeing it either.
Soo...
Your okay with showing your nephew butchery and killing, but offhand references to bodyparts that everyone either has or will come into contact with in thier lives is wrong in some way...
You need help, thats my honest opinion.
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Hawk Von Draum
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:04:00 -
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DUSTPLAYER 060720121333 wrote:Edited by GM Kiriap..
go find some real friends and then you can make silly jokes with them |
GSP GoTSoMePoT
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:05:00 -
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Thats why i have xG_S_Px for day gaming and GoT_SoMe_PoT for night gaming .. |
DUSTPLAYER 060720121333
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:07:00 -
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Hawk Von Draum wrote:go find some real friends and then you can make silly jokes with them
Good for you? In what way is this relevant?
Also, cry some more. |
Lorebot
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:14:00 -
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Nope, not ok with that either, hence the 'walks in the room' I don't play the game in front of him, or any other child for that matter. When he comes in the room I pause the game or at least bring up the neocom, it gets me killed, but it limits his exposure...aside from the names scrolling on the right side of the screen.
And offhand references to bodyparts that everyone either has of will come into contact with isn't exactly what you did, you specifically referenced genitalia which in nearly all polite society is considered vulgar and inappropriate for general company. You want to talk about that stuff in a locker room with 'the boys' or in the privacy of your home that's your choice, but in mixed company it's just not cool. Not everyone is comfortable with it, so have some decency and be aware that other people may find it offensive. CCP's not the only company with such rules, so don't act like it was a surprise that you got your name revoked |
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DUSTPLAYER 060720121333
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:24:00 -
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Lorebot wrote:Nope, not ok with that either, ... that you got your name revok
But your message stated your problem was with your nephew seeing the name. If you pause it as a matter of course it wouldnt be an issue. You arent lieing are you?
As for your second part, that may well be true in the US (I assume you are from the US, you do have some bizzare attitudes towards the whole thing over there) but not in Europe. For most European people mentioning genitalia or sex is fine, as long as you arent actually waving it around.
And yes, I was surprised to have them revoked. I had assumed if they were not allowed, I would not have been allowed to have them. There is no message saying you cannot and autocensors arent exactly unheard of (the forum for instance having one).
And finally. You havent taken offense at the "okay" names I mentioned in my OP, and they are all ***** related puns/references. Why take offense at Ballsack but not "*****" "Bell-end/Urethal opening" and "**** Head", which are what those names meant. (wonder if the autocensor will ** out those "translations"... |
Lorebot
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:42:00 -
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Perhaps you never noticed, but even with the neocom up the kills still scroll on the right side of the screen, so the names still popup and people can see them.
And yes, I'm from the US not that it makes much difference since I've played with EU folk on EVE for nearly a decade and I understand that things are a bit different and in all seriousness the names you've mentioned don't seriously offend me (i don't find them humorous either in case you're wondering), but I'm aware that they can offend other people so I wouldn't use them and it's not something I'd want my 4 year old nephew exposed to. I expect others to do the same, it's decent and polite which I understand is generally unheard of on the internet but that doesn't change my expectations or those of others.
As far as I'm aware CCP doesn't use any sort of automatic censor on EVE and I wouldn't expect them to be any different on Dust, but they are pretty active with letting people know they find something offensive and are usually pretty cool about letting people pick a new name via support ticket. The guidelines in the EULA are pretty clear that if CCP finds a name inappropriate they're going to change it. What's 'inappropriate' is up to CCP, and really, they're trying to put on a good face for Sony and the rest of the world with Dust. Letting players walk around with any of the names you've described, or anything similar, is just plain unprofessional.
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DUSTPLAYER 060720121333
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.07.12 07:58:00 -
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Soo, you allow your nephew to stare at the top right of the screen eh..? Or are you saying that I would kill so rapidly that I would be on the kill feed constantly? Furthermore why not pause it using the PS button, which achieves the same thing but also covers the feed with the clock?
As an aside, have you or your sibling fitted your nephew with a chasity belt, in order to prevent him from being exposed to the fact he is a human with genitalia until whatever time is deemed right? I dont understand you Americans...
"The guidelines in the EULA are pretty clear that if CCP finds a name inappropriate they're going to change it."
Actually they arent in any way. As I pointed out earlier the only clear part is that you cannot have a name which infringes copyright or allows you to pose as someone else. The rest says that "Any and all names are inappropriate!". Now of course that is so that CCP have free reign to delete any name they want, but it isnt clear, and doesnt give any guidelines as to what is okay and what isnt.
That is a large part of the issue, as well as the bizzareness of what is okay and what isnt. Play dust right now and you will see a multitude of racist and or insulting names. Why are people called "XYZ all [insert ethnic group here]" (not going to put the actual names, you understand) ok whereas this isnt? What defines offensiveness...
Further more, being censored for no good reason is just as offensive as any random name, moreso even. Or at least it potentially is. Of course however, I am still flabberghasted that offensive names are an issue at all in a game depicting mass slaughter... What on earth... I dont know whether that is funny or sad.
I am pretty sure EvE autodetects invalid names... Though I havent created a char in so long I dont really know. I know "offensively" named chars are fairly universally tolerated on there however.
As an addendum, do you find the Dust Dev CMDR Wang to be offensive? His name is no different from any of those I posted that you claimed are... Does his own name violate his own rules? Whatever will happen... |
Anatoly Gasputin
Doomheim
40
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Posted - 2012.07.12 10:20:00 -
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Quote:DUSTPLAYER 060720121333 wrote:
It also states [u]Edited by GM Kiriap."
Can't get much more clearer than that IMO.  |
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GM Kiriap
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:23:00 -
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DUSTPLAYER 060720121333 wrote:Edited by GM Kiriap..
Greetings,
I can't allow you to post this in the forum. Please read the FORUM RULES
Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue.
You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.
If you want a clarification you need to reply to the email GM Unicorn sent you. This is a friendly warning.
Thread locked by GM Kiriap. |
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