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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.07.10 16:16:00 -
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I have to agree the cerodon breach rifle is a bit strong in comparison to the other guns of its tier and class porbably because kick factor is way too much on other guns or not enough on the cerodon itself. Then of course hit decection issues and aiming control problems are not as tight as they could be. |
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Posted - 2012.07.10 18:47:00 -
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I have to agree with the buff statement to the other guns you want to get them to a point everyone wants to use any of them its just a matter of fitting play style. Typically I would love a burst type but with 5 rounds each pull gone and possibly missing a grouping hurts performance alot and repulling isnt fast enough on the burst.
Just right now the other types just dont seem to have stopping power to stop a variety of other classes. |
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Posted - 2012.07.10 18:48:00 -
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Abner Kalen wrote:carl von oppenheimer wrote:Problem with AR isn't the damage IMHO it's their accuracy and range, mainly in that you're better off shooting people with an AR on mid ranges then with a sniper rifle and you'd be surprised on how many times I've died from aimed AR shots from what most would call a "sniping distance".
So AR needs either their range or accuracy reduced, personally I would go for the range unless hit detection gets some more tweaks. Again, sniper rifle isn't meant for mid range combat. One of the big advantages of a sniper rifle is its single-shot power and long distance accuracy. That's what assault weapons are for. Granted, they could put a way for the mid-long distance rifles to be much more accurate only when crouching, making them less accurate if moving around or strafing. Still, trying to compare a prototype assault weapon to a basic sniper rifle is really not advisable. It's like comparing horsemen to pikemen - one is meant to defeat the other.
Except we're having instances of pikemen getting ran over by horses with little to no effect. |
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Posted - 2012.07.11 03:35:00 -
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ETEREX wrote:I luvs me Creodron Breach AR. The stupid proto-armor guys who rush me in the open while I am firing at them from a distance while behind cover just deserve to die, period. Maybe they should invest in the Creodron instead of overly expensive armor and learn how to take cover as well. Because my crap tier I armor dies real fast even from militia SMGs if I get caught in the open.
I also put most of my points into the AR and marksman skills and use a damage mod so I can even drop heavies who are in the open very easily with just the tier II AR breach if I wanted.
But as much as I love the Creodron, I have two problems with it. First, it should require at least some tier II skill training to use. And, second, the auto-aim has got to go - for ALL assault rifles. Auto-aim is what makes this game easy mode. I tested it extensively over the weekend and this is how I get it to work: pick a target, zoom in to your target and aim near where you want to hit them (usually center mass or head), begin firing, release the aim while still firing so you are now shooting from the hip, and BINGO, I am getting miracle kills at long range while running and gunning. Pretty lame. It would make more sense to have to stop and aim to get those hits.
It's the auto-aim which is 'broken', not the gun. Because the dudes with the shield buffed scout suits are ALWAYS a pain in the ass to kill even with the Creodron. At close range they usually drop my crap armor pretty quickly no matter how many rounds I fire off.
But the point is I should be able to do the similar with with the cerodon tactical, the allotek burst, and duvolle assault.
I guess the real argument is really Breach Vs Tactical Vs Burst Vs Assault and how to fix the disparity of not using anything but the breach variants. Normally Im not a breach sort of person in shooters but because of weapon handeling in this game is albit difficult combined with poorer hit detection with this beta currently experince has forced me to start using the breach because its the only one I can reliably kill people with and this is wrong. I should be able to pick up the tactical and kill more efficently with it because that is my true style for standoff fighting and assaults indoors.
The word buff or nerf cannot really be applied but I think the whole AR needs to be looked at again and shaken back up. |
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Posted - 2012.07.12 06:57:00 -
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well got my VK. 0 Caldari assault armored it all up and im still dropping in seconds to a cerodon breach, then going full damage setup it seems I cannot down these people fast enough, unfourutnately it just seems that hit detection is currenly screwing around with me still. |
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