Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2012.07.08 03:47:00 -
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I have no idea how you think the HMG is fine but the SMG is 'too weak'. The SMG is stronger than the HMG currently, if you didn't know. You say you've trained the SMG to max skills but I have no idea how you could've done that and not notice how much face you're melting. High level SMG's are second really only to high level pistols. Pistols are the best gun in the game currently. How many of these things you are complaining about have you actually tried? You were wrong about remote explosives, and even admitted you were only operating on hearsay with them. They explode when the person who threw them dies. This is what you experienced.
As far as mass drivers go ... Their paper and practical DPS is still much lower than an assault rifle or SMG. The splash size is perfect to prevent wild 'foot spam' and force the person to actually aim, because the splash radius is so small.
Dropships.. I'm not going to touch that here. Look here for a lengthy read on dropships and their turrets and how to make them 'not lame'.
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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.08 04:42:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:
First off, every time I see you in a game, I see you crushing people with the dropship and forge gunning on the top of a building, so already it is hard for me to respect your opinion regarding how this game should play.
I'll give this point some special love. Considering your previous whining on this subject, this is something I've taken special care to try to crush or forge gun you whenever I see you just because of the QQ. Welcome to New Eden! :)
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About the HMG vs SMG - You fail to realize the amount of damage done when close vs mid range. I notice I can take people out at close-mid range when they have an HMG and I have an SMG and hop around a bit, but when they are right on me, I promise you my SMG is pointless. Test it for yourself: grab an SMG find a heavy armor HMG combo then run straight at him while firing at each other at the same time.
Why are you running straight at anyone? That's silly and you're going to die every time no matter what you use unless the other person is terrible and standing still. An SMG will absolutely melt anyone at close range. Unless you've missworded or I'm misreading, you're complaining that the SMG is terrible in CQC which is its primary area of ass-kickery.
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As for SMGs being second only to pistols - Wow, really? You really just said that? So the Creodon Breach AR, high level shotguns, and forge gun are all less deadly than the SMG? We see these weapons way too much for them to be weaker than the SMG. Typically in every game, beta or final, the better weapons are the ones you see most. I rarely see SMGs compared to other weapons/vehicular weapons nowadays. It's because running around with the SMG isn't enough.
I really did just say that. How much have you used the forge guns, shotguns, and AR's, in comparison to how much you've used the SMG? The SMG is second in its versatility only to the pistol. Deadliness is only a small part of this. Overall damage does not determined the 'best' gun. The SMG has wicked damage, decent accuracy, and high ROF. At higher levels the hip spread pretty much surpasses the creodron in accuracy at CQC ranges. Forge guns are okay against one enemy but still gimp you because of speed penalty. Shotguns have a very limited range, and incredibly slow reload, and low maximum ammo capacity. The SMG is great against multiple enemies, and reloads quickly. The pistol has higher damage, is much more accuracy, and reloads quickly, and is effective at much longer ranges. This makes it the best gun in the game because its overall versatility and ability to dish out hurt is unmatched.
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Again, I'm sure people like you on these forums but people like presidential candidates for the same reason: You say what other people want to hear. Unfortunately, since people want this game to be easier and full of more one hit kill weapons, that's not good. Even scrubs will get tired of no challenge eventually and people that actually give honest reviews of video games will tell the public about this game for what it really is. A noob fest full of anything but First Person Shooting. It will be a lot like Warhawk except with better graphics.
Don't get upset with me for wanting this game to be more focused on gun play than "fire and forget". As it stands, 360 and Players are not missing out on ANYTHING by not having this game on their systems.
I'm not even sure where to start on this. I don't care who likes me or not. This beta is not about popularity, this is about making the game better. If you read any of my posts, I've often suggested toning down several weapons to bring them in line with others. Including those 'dreaded OHK turrets' you are complaining about in your OP. I go to great lengths to try everything in the beta to actually gain an informed opinion on the subject before posting about it, so even if you do disagree with my opinions, you should know I never talk about things I know nothing about. I do not want to hijack your thread. I however want to point out that several of your points are misinformed and I attempted to correct you. There's no need to flame because of this. You say you want the game to be better, so we're on the same team. Let's not flame, Mm'kay? Read the massive post I linked in my earlier post. I attempt to remain as unbiased as possible. If you disagree, post there. |