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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.07.04 22:44:00 -
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Goon spy signing in |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.07.04 22:50:00 -
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Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Anybody that is truly interested in making legitimate moves to take down the goonswarm and any other major alliance that is worth taking out message me on PSN.
just saying that small group of ppl mentioned by the OP dont even make up .0001% of goons or even their allies. if u think you will even put a dent in... A) your brain damaged B) hope your dealer has enough coke C) hope your dealer's dealer has enough coke and then there still wouldnt be an asset left to defend. theres no win in this senario at all...
Your complete fear is the reason Goonswarm has all you EVE players bent over a table. Just sayin' |
Entruv
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:23:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Anybody that is truly interested in making legitimate moves to take down the goonswarm and any other major alliance that is worth taking out message me on PSN.
Well Protoman we should finally speak (In private of course)
I"m down for this too. |
OnsIaught
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:25:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Anybody that is truly interested in making legitimate moves to take down the goonswarm and any other major alliance that is worth taking out message me on PSN.
just saying that small group of ppl mentioned by the OP dont even make up .0001% of goons or even their allies. if u think you will even put a dent in... A) your brain damaged B) hope your dealer has enough coke C) hope your dealer's dealer has enough coke and then there still wouldnt be an asset left to defend. theres no win in this senario at all... Your complete fear is the reason Goonswarm has all you EVE players bent over a table. Just sayin'
Maybe the like it? |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:26:00 -
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OnsIaught wrote:Where is my name in the title? I started all this. Very disappointed. Lol at the Royal kid such a suck up to goonwarms, I guess when you're crappy at FPS you got to do what you have to do.
i'm ROFLin' from that one kid..
Just cause I respect what the goons have done, doesn't mean i'm sucking up or even fu*king LIKE them.
They started off as a bunch of noobs in EVE and and grown in numbers to out do Band Of Brothers alliance and now are the largest member count of all the SOV holding alliances and the leaders of the entire Cluster Fu*k Coalilition. If you don't respect that growth, you're going to fail in this universe.
I personal don't like them they rip their members off and a bunch of ****, but you can't forget what they've done and what they are capable of doing.
About me being "crappy at FPS", I don't use the CreoDron like everyone else and still have great matches and have an alright KDR. I just don't go around pushing it into peoples faces of how awesome I am like you and your forum friends. I have never claimed to be a good FPS player.
I enjoy playing with my corpmates and alliancemates. That's all I've ever claimed to.
Now, why are you mentioning me again in a post? Do you have a crush on me?
here you can follow me on twitter even if you like talking to / about me so much, @RolyatDerTeufel |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:28:00 -
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I don't understand how a supposedly cuttthroat games playerbase could let an Alliance the size of Goonswarms stand for this amount of time. Most people would have been bored, invaded and dismantled for ***** and giggles. |
OnsIaught
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:35:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:I don't understand how a supposedly cuttthroat games playerbase could let an Alliance the size of Goonswarms stand for this amount of time. Most people would have been bored, invaded and dismantled for ***** and giggles.
They're weak minded. You could tell from the very beginning that Eve players were weak. 99.9% of the poster from DUST are afraid to talk about Goonswarm or anything else that might get someone upset. |
OnsIaught
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:38:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:OnsIaught wrote:Where is my name in the title? I started all this. Very disappointed. Lol at the Royal kid such a suck up to goonwarms, I guess when you're crappy at FPS you got to do what you have to do. i'm ROFLin' from that one kid.. Just cause I respect what the goons have done, doesn't mean i'm sucking up or even fu*king LIKE them. They started off as a bunch of noobs in EVE and and grown in numbers to out do Band Of Brothers alliance and now are the largest member count of all the SOV holding alliances and the leaders of the entire Cluster Fu*k Coalilition. If you don't respect that growth, you're going to fail in this universe. I personal don't like them they rip their members off and a bunch of ****, but you can't forget what they've done and what they are capable of doing. About me being "crappy at FPS", I don't use the CreoDron like everyone else and still have great matches and have an alright KDR. I just don't go around pushing it into peoples faces of how awesome I am like you and your forum friends. I have never claimed to be a good FPS player. I enjoy playing with my corpmates and alliancemates. That's all I've ever claimed to. Now, why are you mentioning me again in a post? Do you have a crush on me? here you can follow me on twitter even if you like talking to / about me so much, @RolyatDerTeufel
Cool Story Bro. I don't know what CreoDron is or care. I will not lose. |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:40:00 -
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ya know , i dont care really who i work for . as long as i get to shoot stuff and the pay is good , i'll take any contract offered . i have nothing agaist the goons .. they took out bob, i didnt like bob. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:44:00 -
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OnsIaught wrote:
Cool Story Bro. I don't know what CreoDron is or care. I will not lose.
You don't now the prototype breach assault rifle ? you must not play the beta.
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Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:44:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:OnsIaught wrote:
Cool Story Bro. I don't know what CreoDron is or care. I will not lose.
you must not play the beta.
That is one way not to lose... |
OnsIaught
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:46:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:OnsIaught wrote:
Cool Story Bro. I don't know what CreoDron is or care. I will not lose.
You don't now the prototype breach assault rifle ? you must not play the beta.
Default character.Its a beta. |
MUDMASTEI2
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:49:00 -
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ANDJEH wrote:Where's mud in this game havent seen him playing it yet?
Anyway yea the blogs are laughable at best.
Sniping Wicked out of dropships.
Srs though, I try to, but this game is just too bad. Grinding FTL. Would rather stick to CoD with Bleed & have lulz. It's a shame, I'd like to continue harassing Goonswarm, but there's no point if I won't play the game. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:51:00 -
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OnsIaught wrote:Phantomnom wrote:I don't understand how a supposedly cuttthroat games playerbase could let an Alliance the size of Goonswarms stand for this amount of time. Most people would have been bored, invaded and dismantled for ***** and giggles. They're weak minded. You could tell from the very beginning that Eve players were weak. 99.9% of the poster from DUST are afraid to talk about Goonswarm or anything else that might get someone upset.
People have been trying to kill them off for a long time.
They just realize that capsuleers are immortal -- as such they refuse to biomass themselves & continue to exist.
Ultimately the only thing that can kill an alliance or corporation is a bad leadership, a terrible group dynamic, taking the game too seriously, and conflicting ideals. |
Sid Napier
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
82
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:58:00 -
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Fuzzy LilmanPeach wrote:Well i could honestly care less about who these EVE players are (or whoever) They arent Gods "striking us down" from orbit, have they forgotten we can hit their asses back with planetary defenses? I typically laugh at people like this in ANY game dont get me wrong, i LOVE video games, ive been playing practically my whole life and i do take them seriously when challenges arise, but i mean, c'mon hahaha A dangerous mistake, EVE players shall provide most of your salary, learn to respect the higher ups.
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:01:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:OnsIaught wrote:Phantomnom wrote:I don't understand how a supposedly cuttthroat games playerbase could let an Alliance the size of Goonswarms stand for this amount of time. Most people would have been bored, invaded and dismantled for ***** and giggles. They're weak minded. You could tell from the very beginning that Eve players were weak. 99.9% of the poster from DUST are afraid to talk about Goonswarm or anything else that might get someone upset. People have been trying to kill them off for a long time. They just realize that capsuleers are immortal -- as such they refuse to biomass themselves & continue to exist. Ultimately the only thing that can kill an alliance or corporation is a bad leadership, a terrible group dynamic, taking the game too seriously, and conflicting ideals.
Capsuleers can lose SP when they die, we can't. For now |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:10:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:OnsIaught wrote:Phantomnom wrote:I don't understand how a supposedly cuttthroat games playerbase could let an Alliance the size of Goonswarms stand for this amount of time. Most people would have been bored, invaded and dismantled for ***** and giggles. They're weak minded. You could tell from the very beginning that Eve players were weak. 99.9% of the poster from DUST are afraid to talk about Goonswarm or anything else that might get someone upset. People have been trying to kill them off for a long time. They just realize that capsuleers are immortal -- as such they refuse to biomass themselves & continue to exist. Ultimately the only thing that can kill an alliance or corporation is a bad leadership, a terrible group dynamic, taking the game too seriously, and conflicting ideals. Capsuleers can lose SP when they die, we can't.
Right now, we can't, have you not seen the soonTM for clones?
How do you know CCP doesn't plan to do something like that for Dust? but having to update a stack of clones for say 100 times for that SP limit and if you go past that without redoing that clone grade, you'd lose SP?
There is something with clones they are doing. and I'd personally love to see that in Dust, just like the eve capsuleers |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:16:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:OnsIaught wrote:Where is my name in the title? I started all this. Very disappointed. Lol at the Royal kid such a suck up to goonwarms, I guess when you're crappy at FPS you got to do what you have to do. i'm ROFLin' from that one kid.. Just cause I respect what the goons have done, doesn't mean i'm sucking up or even fu*king LIKE them. They started off as a bunch of noobs in EVE and and grown in numbers to out do Band Of Brothers alliance and now are the largest member count of all the SOV holding alliances and the leaders of the entire Cluster Fu*k Coalilition. If you don't respect that growth, you're going to fail in this universe. I personal don't like them they rip their members off and a bunch of ****, but you can't forget what they've done and what they are capable of doing. About me being "crappy at FPS", I don't use the CreoDron like everyone else and still have great matches and have an alright KDR. I just don't go around pushing it into peoples faces of how awesome I am like you and your forum friends. I have never claimed to be a good FPS player. I enjoy playing with my corpmates and alliancemates. That's all I've ever claimed to. Now, why are you mentioning me again in a post? Do you have a crush on me? here you can follow me on twitter even if you like talking to / about me so much, @RolyatDerTeufel
I guess u cant see the parallels in this situation to the one your referring to. We (dust bunnies) are trying to make as much or more of an impact on New Eden as goons or any one else! Whats wrong with reaching for the stars! I say lets do whatever we can and strive to do what they say we cannot!
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SWEETY mufin
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:17:00 -
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I would just like to say, that anyone basing opinions off of some random member in some random corp, in some random game that won't be released until some random time....
Is folly.
The only thing that matters is what the leaders of these corps say.
not the **** talkers not the propaganda fake news sites not a site that allows anonymous/fluidly changing names in the comments.
When the game is launched, all of this talk... will be just talk. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:22:00 -
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SWEETY mufin wrote:I would just like to say, that anyone basing opinions off of some random member in some random corp, in some random game that won't be released until some random time....
Is folly.
The only thing that matters is what the leaders of these corps say.
not the **** talkers not the propaganda fake news sites not a site that allows anonymous/fluidly changing names in the comments.
When the game is launched, all of this talk... will be just talk.
all that talk at least passes the time |
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Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:23:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:OnsIaught wrote:Phantomnom wrote:I don't understand how a supposedly cuttthroat games playerbase could let an Alliance the size of Goonswarms stand for this amount of time. Most people would have been bored, invaded and dismantled for ***** and giggles. They're weak minded. You could tell from the very beginning that Eve players were weak. 99.9% of the poster from DUST are afraid to talk about Goonswarm or anything else that might get someone upset. People have been trying to kill them off for a long time. They just realize that capsuleers are immortal -- as such they refuse to biomass themselves & continue to exist. Ultimately the only thing that can kill an alliance or corporation is a bad leadership, a terrible group dynamic, taking the game too seriously, and conflicting ideals. Capsuleers can lose SP when they die, we can't.
lol. Well, they can definitely lose the isk they spent on their clone insurance when they die. If you managed to kill them while they were wearing implants some of those sets can cost a pretty penny too. I've got a set plugged into one of my clones with a single module that would make me QQ to the tune of 1.3billion isk if I let myself get podded. But I assure you, I wouldn't lose a single skill point.
Typically, the only capsuleers who lose skill points when they die are those who have terrible contingency plans and/or haven't quite made it past the initial learning curve.
I'm finding that it's possible that the Beta itself has a similar learning curve. I'd love to see it added to that chart |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:26:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote: I guess u cant see the parallels in this situation to the one your referring to. We (dust bunnies) are trying to make as much or more of an impact on New Eden as goons or any one else! Whats wrong with reaching for the stars! I say lets do whatever we can and strive to do what they say we cannot!
I have nothing wrong with Dust making a impact to EVE, but these guys thinking they will come in and dismantle a huge alliance show the delusion they are in.
My entire reason for being here is the idea of pushing the limits and helping CCP create the ultimate gaming universe.
I can't stop them from going for goons like the others i hear and read about in evenew24 or anything else.
The reason for my post is for him including my name. (many don't know but my nickname in alliance and with friends is Royal, cause no one can say what it actually is, and I couldn't really tell ya, lol )
By the way, great post, you should be a motivational speaker for dust bunnies everywhere. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:40:00 -
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Onslaught doesn't lose Onslaught is clutch AF |
Septem Mortuus
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:45:00 -
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Love the idea of the war, hope you guys get it off the ground and make some noise in New Eden. It would be great for the game.
But take this as a freindly warning - you have NO idea what you are doing.
Now I'm not saying that to knock, you obviously know your gun-game and have some experience at this. I'm saying it so you go into this with your eyes open.
(Note also, this isn't about Goon, this refers to ANY large Alliance in EvE)
People keep telling you that Corps in EvE are the "Clans" or "Guilds" from other games right? And you've been in or led clans to victory in the past right? So you can do it again here same as you used to right? Wrong.
Here's where you can scream "BUT I IS L337 AND WILL OWN ALL WIF MY GUN_GAME!!1!"
And here's why you are wrong.
Because unlike every other shooter, where you can challenge another clan and you go off and fight somewhere, someone wins, Youtube vids are posted and much Lulz are had at the losers, here there are consequences.
A Clan is basically just people who like to play together and who are prepared to log in at the same time and work together to win a match or battle.
A Corp in EvE is people who do that, and who are prepared to organise with thousands of other players over the course of years to produce equipment, ships, titans, star-bases, ammo, weapons, hold territory, arrange on-going thousand-member engagements on a routine basis. They are prepared to grind their opponents down through outright battle, spies, economic warfare or slow attrition. These are things that no FPS has ever had to deal with.
You will win battles, and many, many of them. But unlike MAG, or CoD, that just doesn't matter. Because this my friends is WAR. True, ugly, all-out, persistent, WAR.
So you can kick butt against anyone 1v1? How about 5v1? 10v1? So there's a 32 player limit in a battle you say? How many battles can you fight at a time then? 1? 5? 10?
How many can you fight in a row? 10? 20? 50?
So you can kill 10 for every death? What if they are budgeting on losing 15-1?
How will you afford it is another good question? Because when you're defending your own territory, or making your own attacks, you have to PAY for it! No ISKies just for battle (Only in the PVE and Beta battles - otherwise you get paid as a Merc, you act for yourselves, you pay for yourselves.) Can you afford to max the vehicle quota on T2 fit Marauders EVERY SINGLE GAME? Because your enemies can.
In MAG/CoD/Whatever, you can't be beaten if you aren't playing, you have to be there to lose, here you don't. You'll get attacked relentlessly until you log out, and then they'll take your stuff.
Gun-Game is THE most important thing in most FPS's, but here it's only half the equation.
Take that on board and plan accordingly and you might actually make a dent in someone! :)
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Kaeralli Sturmovos
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
117
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Posted - 2012.07.05 05:41:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Anybody that is truly interested in making legitimate moves to take down the goonswarm and any other major alliance that is worth taking out message me on PSN.
just saying that small group of ppl mentioned by the OP dont even make up .0001% of goons or even their allies. if u think you will even put a dent in... A) your brain damaged B) hope your dealer has enough coke C) hope your dealer's dealer has enough coke and then there still wouldnt be an asset left to defend. theres no win in this senario at all... Your complete fear is the reason Goonswarm has all you EVE players bent over a table. Just sayin'
lolz its not fear its logic and strategy, a mere few hundred cant do **** to those who have thousands. and if u think its all about numbers think about how much money and resources that those few thousands bring in.
now the numbers may be down from the last time i saw but goons and their allies are probably around 15k....whats your pitiful group of just a few going to do?!?
mosquitos do more damange then you wil...just sayin |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.07.05 18:15:00 -
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Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:[quote=Phantomnom][quote=Kaeralli Sturmovos][quote=xprotoman23]
lolz its not fear its logic and strategy, a mere few hundred cant do **** to those who have thousands. and if u think its all about numbers think about how much money and resources that those few thousands bring in.
now the numbers may be down from the last time i saw but goons and their allies are probably around 15k....whats your pitiful group of just a few going to do?!?
mosquitos do more damange then you wil...just sayin
Thanks for being optimistic
I can't speak for everyone in the post that want to start a war, but as far as TCD and Reset goes we will prepare for one if or when it comes |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.07.05 18:24:00 -
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Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:Phantomnom wrote:Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Anybody that is truly interested in making legitimate moves to take down the goonswarm and any other major alliance that is worth taking out message me on PSN.
just saying that small group of ppl mentioned by the OP dont even make up .0001% of goons or even their allies. if u think you will even put a dent in... A) your brain damaged B) hope your dealer has enough coke C) hope your dealer's dealer has enough coke and then there still wouldnt be an asset left to defend. theres no win in this senario at all... Your complete fear is the reason Goonswarm has all you EVE players bent over a table. Just sayin' lolz its not fear its logic and strategy, a mere few hundred cant do **** to those who have thousands. and if u think its all about numbers think about how much money and resources that those few thousands bring in. now the numbers may be down from the last time i saw but goons and their allies are probably around 15k....whats your pitiful group of just a few going to do?!? mosquitos do more damange then you wil...just sayin
Alliances. EVE players are always lauding up the Meta, go do it. It's funny out a playerbase of 300k plus, six or seven guys on a seperate game are the one ones prepared to give it a shot. Wow. Just sayin' |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2012.07.05 19:28:00 -
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Bow down to your king.
Xenuria Speaks!
http://youtu.be/Ot9FWr5ihHg |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:08:00 -
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Would mind the Vid if it had anything related to this topic
But nope |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:38:00 -
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Will New Eden Burn?
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