About EVE, and entire CCP being set on market:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=503420&find=unread

I though you will be interested about it. For my it is just another SyFy topic on the forum about space ships, stars and such, but theoretically how it would impact project nova?

Discuss.

No, that's official. The investment companies that own CCP are thinking about selling it to an as yet unknown buyer if the buyer will put up what they think CCP is worth, which is $955 million.

I'm thinking Google as well. Either that or Amazon, since they recently acquired Twitch and seem to be getting into bringing gaming services into their business umbrella.

Obviously, I could be wrong, but I don't honestly think any companies of that magnitude are interested in a second string, Iceland based MMO that's been losing profitability for years. And more broadly, I don't think they're interested in the company that owns that MMO and hasn't really been able to make any other product stick in the market.

CCP has been dwindling for three years now. The buyers are more likely to be some Korean MMO front house or simply a holding firm or something.

LOL they are evaluated at 995 million and you think they are doing bad?

I dont call 995 million second string. Youtube sold for 1.65 billion which is not far off.

Whether they show it or not ccp is doing very very well.

An exclusive game already with google and you KNOW that means huge bucks in the bank.

Google dont fuc* around boy, they are in the business of making huge amounts of money.

They are definitely second string. Yes, they're doing bad. Also, CCP thinks it's worth $995 million. Let's see what the number is when they eventually sell.

Take a look here:

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

The FTP spike looks to have mostly worn off as well.

Those graphs look very successful to me, I dont really know any other games with 60,000 + players on at once.

I am pretty sure those are just eve numbers as well nothing to do with the gunjack 1 or 2 release on google daydream, which is where really big money comes in.

So you think ccp did an evaluation on themselves? I am pretty sure due dilligence companies are hired to do that sort of thing so buyers and seller dont have to.

Your right if it did sell it might not be 995 mil it could be a heck of a lot more!

Hate how you call ccp second string.

Do you also call google second string?

How about EA?

I think you are second string.

ccp is deep into VR and that is currently where huge money is not EVE or fps.

The future of gaming as we know it is VR.

Guess you never wondered why ccp gives their VR stuff top priority, releasing 2 games before a non VR game gets a single update.

Those graphs look very successful to me, I dont really know any other games with 60,000 + players on at once.

I am pretty sure those are just eve numbers as well nothing to do with the gunjack 1 or 2 release on google daydream, which is where really big money comes in.

So you think ccp did an evaluation on themselves? I am pretty sure due dilligence companies are hired to do that sort of thing so buyers and seller dont have to.

Your right if it did sell it might not be 995 mil it could be a heck of a lot more!

Hate how you call ccp second string.

Do you also call google second string?

How about EA?

I think you are second string.

ccp is deep into VR and that is currently where huge money is not EVE or fps.

The future of gaming as we know it is VR.

Guess you never wondered why ccp gives their VR stuff top priority, releasing 2 games before a non VR game gets a single update.

Where you trolls are pulling your numbers from is beyond me.

You mine as well make them up, just like all your other fake ass statements.

You obviously dont even know how to read a stats chart, there is more then one server duhhh!

VR is actually bigger then you can imagine and you can expect it grow even bigger in the next 5 years.

Makes a lot of sense why you see big companies like sony starting to develop their own VR stuff.

Try checking actual sales vs players online with eve and their VR stuff. Until then just zip that hole.

Are you ccp? NO! Do you work for them? NO! Are you their accountant? NO! But you sure act like it.

When things like dust become not profitable they shut down. Well that is not the case for their VR stuff, very much profitable by a very big margin otherwise it would of been trashed months ago!

But go ahead and play with your server numbers thinking you know it all.

Lets all go back and play the playstation 1 nahh bru stuff dont work like that its moving forward and the next gaming platform being widely spread even by google / Sony ? EA / Microsoft is VR.

Well CCP had the jump on all of them and you think they are doing bad? Second string?

So bad that they got a buyout offer?

LOL!

If you think that buyout offer came from Eve your even further lost then i thought. Living in the past.

That buyout came from their VR stuff.

Not sure what that link is suppose to mean.

I am just saying, this buyout came from their VR stuff.

You guys are showing me eve stats like how does that even make sense? Buyouts are future related, not buying for the past.

Anyways, you will see soon enough VR is the new playstation and xbox.

CCP had the jump on them all, naturally their tech would want to be snatched up by other competitors coming into the niche.

Anyways i dont wanna argue.

I dont think CCP would sell they have to much on the go and too much to lose that they worked very hard for.

Really dont like people calling them second string.

When you get a buyout offer you are not classified as second string.

Ccp did not put themselves up for sale get that straight.

They received a buyout offer. Big difference. Yes that usually always happens to first string companies they get buyout offers, just like youtube did.

Am i talking about 2015??? lmao kid.

This is from present maybe a few months old. Solid 2016 numbers and future progression.

Buyouts dont happen for things in the past its all about the present and the future.

Anyways you keep digging up old numbers and live in the past while the rest of us look for the future.

Do you know how many games EA has thats hardly a comparison, ccp made 70 mil off of what 3 games?

EA probably had dozens upon dozens of games to reach those numbers tard.

If ccp had that amount of games they would blow EA clean out of the water.

But you fail to see two sides, the only side you see is ccp is second string.

In reality they just focus on their games more then other companies making for games that dont get played out in a month like EA's garbage.

You really need a serious lesson kid.

ccp is first string, pure skill and development.

EA is second string, pure crap copy and paste year and year again.

I dont blame ccp for not following those steps i actually praise them for it!

2015 was probably the worst year to judge them on. They were closing down trash and re investing in the good. The real big payoff will be this years and next years numbers. Did you not even read the article you supplied? geesh.

Anyways as i do in the past with people that just wont let go, feel free to reply how you want I JUST WONT ANSWER kid.

I find it funny how some people still claim to know how well ccp is doing even thought they made their financials private from the public.

https://www.themittani.com/news/ccp-goes-dark-company-financials

This is the most likely case why you seen a buyout offer being talked about.

Since any interested buyers were no longer able to see how ccp was doing they had to outright make a offer / take interest in buying to see how they were doing.

Really makes you wonder how well they are doing with their VR stuff.

We already know that they aren't yet even breaking even on their VR stuff.

No need to wonder.

I wonder why you keep bringing it up like CCP is somehow knocking it out of the park with VR. They aren't.

Show me their VR numbers then.

I dont mean eve, i dont mean mixed into 3 years ago financials.

Show me the current. You simply can not so shut that trap.

I did that back on page 1. I guess you missed it.

Here it is again:

Read it this time

Straight from CCP itself.

I won't ask you to shut your trap. This is far too entertaining.

LOL you throw the same article at me wtf? I read it from start to finish you obviously did not.

Predictions, predictions.

Where are the hard numbers?

You wont find them.

Obviously they are investing 30 mil into VR for a damn good reason.

Its going to be their main source of profit these next few years just as i explained.

The future that you can not SEE!

Duhh.

Common sense tells me they would not invest 30 million into something that was not already profitable for them.

If its not showing good results they scrap it! they do not toss 30 mil into it.

How can you not see this?

I only wish they tossed 30 mil into dust / nova / eve. But why would you see that from their non VR? You wouldn't.

VR is where their big bucks currently are, if you can not see that then i dont think you will ever understand.

You my friend are stuck 3 years in the past. Sad stuff.

I've been biting my tongue reading this ridiculous argument. The only thing that matters is that EvE is being left to sit on the rust heap, while CCP milks whatever funds they can still get out of it to throw at any number of ill-advised attempts to break into the VR market, because someone at the top really really really thinks that's a great idea.

For this they are letting EvE sit somewhat idle - perhaps they think they don't really need to do anything more with EvE at the moment because it's already pretty diverse, but they'd be wrong - EvE denizens are ALWAYS complaining about the bugs. In fact most EvE denizens actually complain more about past "improvements" made by CCP and the bugs they introduced that still haven't been fixed, than they do about new content - they don't actually want new content, they just want the old stuff fixed.

And then there's Dust. Because of poor leadership (the same poor leadership that led to this obsession with VR) they let Dust die. It wasn't glitzy. They didn't design it right. They didn't integrate it into the EvE Universe properly, which would have required more work on EvE and they've left it to moulder so no. Hopefully, they WILL produce NOVA, but since it won't be VR, I don't know how much they'll bother with it.

VR will likely be the bridge too far for CCP. I'm sure in time VR will be really cool, but it's too early yet, and well, CCP already had EvE which is their bread and butter. I can't say I blame them for wanting to use profits from their tried-and-true product to venture into new territory, but to throw said product under the bus to do it is just silly.

Management at CCP needs to do a rethink, and possibly get rid of the one that is so determined to bury EvE, Dust and perhaps NOVA for the benefit of a few very expensive glitzy toys.