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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2016.09.19 17:47:00 -
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Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong
Dustkillz and chill
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.09.19 18:13:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong
Hm, If I played Eve I would bet considering I am that confident it won't make it to ps4pro.
The reasoning behind it it's pretty simple: assuming CCP learned from the PS3 experience (launching a persistant game universe on a platform that is going to be replaced shortly) even if they intend to publish their game on a Sony platform again, it should really be on the next iteration (some kind of "Playstation 5", to be clear). If console cycles are going to be shorter (and they probably will, since Xbox offers a much more powerful machine than ps4 pro in 2017), it would be wise to "just wait" for the new "playstation 5" or whatever it's going to be called (not ps4pro): we're talking about late 2018 / early 2019 anyway, and hopefully Nova should be at least in advanced development at that point.
Moreover, every PS4 Pro game must be able to run on a normal ps4 at the same framerate (at least in multiplayer), and considering that as far as we've seen CCP Shanghai doesn't really like that kind of hardware limitations, it's fair enough to assume that it won't make it to ps4 pro.
That said, I'm also pretty interested in ps4 pro, but only because of the awesome (imo) first party exclusives and for Final Fantasy XV that will surely run and look much better that a standard ps4.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2016.09.19 18:47:00 -
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god damn i will be pissed if nova is made for the PS4. they will be releasing nova at the same point in the PS4 life cycle as they did dust in the PS3 life cycle.
if they going with sony. PS5 or bust.
Keys and lockboxes are the root of all evil.
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2016.09.19 19:15:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong . Nova , if its still Nova by then it will make it to a console . but the best part may be , its going to be cross platform if they start using the new ( Vulcan API ) . if Valkyrie made it to PS4 , I wouldn't doubt NOVA will as well in the future . but I rather stick to a p.c since its easily upgradeable .
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2016.09.19 19:52:00 -
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Lol
I haven't used my consoles in a while. Since I started playing on my PC with an XB1 controller, I haven't been able to play any other system. And to the KB/M elitists, I don't play multiplayer games over than Dark Souls 3, which is better with a controller anyways. I'm a filthy casual.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2016.09.19 20:05:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Lol
I haven't used my consoles in a while. Since I started playing on my PC with an XB1 controller, I haven't been able to play any other system. And to the KB/M elitists, I don't play multiplayer games other than Dark Souls 3, which is better with a controller anyways. I'm a filthy casual. There are some games that just feel better with a controller. DOOM is a good example for me. I can play it with KB/M, but a controller feels right. DS3 is another example. Meanwhile I have no idea how people play Warframe with a controller.
I don't know if we can blame this more on game design, personal preference, or both.
Oh, and OP, don't hold your breath on project nova for PS4... If it does happen it will be after a successful PC launch of nova. That could be 2 - 4 years from now. By then we'll be on the PS5 Slim Pro Virgo +++ Remastered edition or whatever the hell Sony is trying to push.
My advice to you, playa.
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Mobius Wyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.19 20:10:00 -
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deadpool lifetone wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong . Nova , if its still Nova by then it will make it to a console . but the best part may be , its going to be cross platform if they start using the new ( Vulcan API ) . if Valkyrie made it to PS4 , I wouldn't doubt NOVA will as well in the future . but I rather stick to a p.c since its easily upgradeable . NO, it will NOT be. You cannot create a cross-platform FPS. It is not possible. There is no possible way to balance controllers against Mice, and any means of separation of both player communities is completely counter to the principle of New Eden.
EVE Valkyrie can do that because it's a game where a mouse gives no advantage, and a controller is honestly the best control method.
I'm getting one for EVE: Valkyrie and Ace Combat 7 because I grew up with Ace Combat.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.09.19 20:31:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:and any means of separation of both player communities is completely counter to the principle of New Eden.
But for all we know, Nova will be exactly like Valk in that it's in its own little instance of the EVE Universe, totally separated from EVE itself. It's clear that persistence and inter-connectivity are not a priority for CCP, and may not even be much of an interest at all. Separating the communities with a tight yet basic F2PFPS might not break any barriers or put CCPs name in the spotlight, but it would very likely generate a steady stream of income.
Sales will triumph over dreams.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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Mobius Wyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.19 20:36:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:and any means of separation of both player communities is completely counter to the principle of New Eden.
But for all we know, Nova will be exactly like Valk in that it's in its own little instance of EVE. It's clear that persistence and inter-connectivity are not a priority for CCP, and may not even be much of an interest at all. Separating the communities with a tight yet basic F2PFPS might not break any barriers or put CCPs name in the spotlight, but it would very likely generate a steady stream of income. Sales will triumph over dreams. EVE: Valkyrie is going to be cross-platform primarily for the reason of keeping a united New Eden. There are likely people who would prefer they be separate, but since neither side will have a control method advantage it makes the most sense to keep the player pool combined so there are more people playing together.
CCP Rattati did, after all, confirm that he considers an economic link between the two games to be very important. If there's any community separation, how could wars over that link ever be fought? Just get a PC instead of a Console and now you are free from any of the other Console gamers that were impeding your ability to bank up all the money you want.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.09.19 20:39:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:CCP Rattati did, after all, confirm that he considers an economic link between the two games to be very important. Rattati can consider whatever he wants to be as important as he likes, but if Hilmar says no then it just doesn't ever happen. I think Hilmar is too afraid to let this game touch EVE in any meaningful way, and I still strongly doubt there will be any meaningful connection between the games. I'm also a cynical salt elemental, so who knows.
Also been PC Master Race since a little before Starcraft 2 came out :)
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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Mobius Wyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.19 20:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:CCP Rattati did, after all, confirm that he considers an economic link between the two games to be very important. Rattati can consider whatever he wants to be as important as he likes, but if Hilmar says no then it just doesn't ever happen. I think Hilmar is too afraid to let this game touch EVE in any meaningful way, and I still strongly doubt there will be any meaningful connection between the games. I'm also a cynical salt elemental, so who knows. Also been PC Master Race since a little before Starcraft 2 came out :) I still play both but I'm convinced that the right place for an FPS in New Eden is now on PC. They tried console, but they clearly don't have the expertise.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.09.19 20:58:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:CCP Rattati did, after all, confirm that he considers an economic link between the two games to be very important. Rattati can consider whatever he wants to be as important as he likes, but if Hilmar says no then it just doesn't ever happen. I think Hilmar is too afraid to let this game touch EVE in any meaningful way, and I still strongly doubt there will be any meaningful connection between the games. I'm also a cynical salt elemental, so who knows. Also been PC Master Race since a little before Starcraft 2 came out :) I still play both but I'm convinced that the right place for an FPS in New Eden is now on PC. They tried console, but they clearly don't have the expertise. With the new consoles becoming closer and closer to PCs though I don't think it's as big of a stretch. Also, I maintain that if the chance to make a fat wad of cash presents itself, it WILL steer development in that direction. Having that huge market of console players is still likely appealing, considering if actually done right this game could easily be the new Halo or BF or CoD.
My faith is entirely depleted, so I will stay negative in my views until enough evidence presents itself to sway me otherwise.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.09.19 23:02:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:deadpool lifetone wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong . Nova , if its still Nova by then it will make it to a console . but the best part may be , its going to be cross platform if they start using the new ( Vulcan API ) . if Valkyrie made it to PS4 , I wouldn't doubt NOVA will as well in the future . but I rather stick to a p.c since its easily upgradeable . NO, it will NOT be. You cannot create a cross-platform FPS. It is not possible. There is no possible way to balance controllers against Mice, and any means of separation of both player communities is completely counter to the principle of New Eden. EVE Valkyrie can do that because it's a game where a mouse gives no advantage, and a controller is honestly the best control method. I'm getting one for EVE: Valkyrie and Ace Combat 7 because I grew up with Ace Combat. While I agree there doesn't seem to be a way to create an even playing field between KBM and controller, I wholly disagree that it is counter to seperate New Eden.
It is already sperated into High, Low, and Null secs, and will soon divide its players between subscribers and F2P (if not geographically, then certainly with limited content).
From what I hear, New Eden is big enough to have invisible partitions between PC Nova and console Nova. Why create arbitrary limitations? Why be against console players wanting a piece of Nova/New Eden for their own?
That just doesn't come across well.
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2016.09.19 23:05:00 -
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Rationalism at it's finest.
Shoulder dropping OP
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.09.20 01:37:00 -
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Sadly, I'm with Fiend on salt and holding steadfast to the negative (probably more neutral, but measurably less positive than before!). When they announced NOVA it was stated to be set in EvE's future and disconnected from that universe. With that, I gave up looking for news apart from what I stumble upon here in these forums.
If anyone has news proving otherwise, please correct me with a link? I'd love to read it.
For me at this point, NOVA is this forum meta game until there's something else.
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Mobius Wyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.20 01:53:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:deadpool lifetone wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong . Nova , if its still Nova by then it will make it to a console . but the best part may be , its going to be cross platform if they start using the new ( Vulcan API ) . if Valkyrie made it to PS4 , I wouldn't doubt NOVA will as well in the future . but I rather stick to a p.c since its easily upgradeable . NO, it will NOT be. You cannot create a cross-platform FPS. It is not possible. There is no possible way to balance controllers against Mice, and any means of separation of both player communities is completely counter to the principle of New Eden. EVE Valkyrie can do that because it's a game where a mouse gives no advantage, and a controller is honestly the best control method. I'm getting one for EVE: Valkyrie and Ace Combat 7 because I grew up with Ace Combat. While I agree there doesn't seem to be a way to create an even playing field between KBM and controller, I wholly disagree that it is counter to seperate New Eden. It is already sperated into High, Low, and Null secs, and will soon divide its players between subscribers and F2P (if not geographically, then certainly with limited content). From what I hear, New Eden is big enough to have invisible partitions between PC Nova and console Nova. Why create arbitrary limitations? Why be against console players wanting a piece of Nova/New Eden for their own? That just doesn't come across well. So why bother at all? Just keep the game PC only and give console players EVE: Valkyrie. Flying games are better for controllers anyway.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.09.20 02:35:00 -
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Why?
Because for better or worse, CCP brought Dust to the PS3, and created a console player base.
A lot of us, whether they are console exclusive players, or people who play on both, would also like to play Nova on a console.
Besides, what company in their right minds turns away the opportunity to increase its customer base and grow its revenue, especially considering when it comes time to port Nova, the vast majority of the work will already have been done, and the extra expenditures will be minimal compared to the rewards?
Isn't that why games like Planetside, and even XCOM get console ports?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
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Posted - 2016.09.20 03:38:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong Hm, If I played Eve I would bet considering I am that confident it won't make it to ps4pro. The reasoning behind it it's pretty simple: assuming CCP learned from the PS3 experience (launching a persistant game universe on a platform that is going to be replaced shortly) even if they intend to publish their game on a Sony platform again, it should really be on the next iteration (some kind of "Playstation 5", to be clear). If console cycles are going to be shorter (and they probably will, since Xbox offers a much more powerful machine than ps4 pro in 2017), it would be wise to "just wait" for the new "playstation 5" or whatever it's going to be called (not ps4pro): we're talking about late 2018 / early 2019 anyway, and hopefully Nova should be at least in advanced development at that point. Moreover, every PS4 Pro game must be able to run on a normal ps4 at the same framerate (at least in multiplayer), and considering that as far as we've seen CCP Shanghai doesn't really like that kind of hardware limitations, it's fair enough to assume that it won't make it to ps4 pro. That said, I'm also pretty interested in ps4 pro, but only because of the awesome (imo) first party exclusives and for Final Fantasy XV that will surely run and look much better that a standard ps4. TLDR: OP is a phaggot
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james selim brownstein
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Posted - 2016.09.20 03:52:00 -
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hehe...
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.20 05:22:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong I don't know that I'll get a Pro straight up. I like the new version, and I think if I got that now, and waited, the pro will be even better when I finally do get one.
As for getting a new console, I'll do it for the console, not for any chance that something will make it there.... :)
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2016.09.20 05:29:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:deadpool lifetone wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong . Nova , if its still Nova by then it will make it to a console . but the best part may be , its going to be cross platform if they start using the new ( Vulcan API ) . if Valkyrie made it to PS4 , I wouldn't doubt NOVA will as well in the future . but I rather stick to a p.c since its easily upgradeable . NO, it will NOT be. You cannot create a cross-platform FPS. It is not possible. There is no possible way to balance controllers against Mice, and any means of separation of both player communities is completely counter to the principle of New Eden. EVE Valkyrie can do that because it's a game where a mouse gives no advantage, and a controller is honestly the best control method. I'm getting one for EVE: Valkyrie and Ace Combat 7 because I grew up with Ace Combat. . You say no , but the technology is out there already and tested . :::khronos vulkan::: ( this why Sony and Xbox ) talking about cross platforming consoles . read up on it ( got released Feb 2016 ) if the Vulkan driver's are adapted to consoles ( which supports virtually almost every Gaming Engine there is already ) . and to your Controller vs Mouse rant! ( they're now online features that limit Mouse DPI if you are playing certain cross platform games ) . that's a developers choice if they choose to have cross platform restrictions or limits to make it a even playing field . some will complain and whine etc , but I was doing just fine smoking certain scrubs that used keyboard & mouse in DUST514 . so I won't use the ""but they have a keyboard & mouse"" Crutch! Excuse . if you're good , you're good . simple as uno , dos , chicken lol =ƒÆÇ=ƒâÅ=ƒÄ«
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Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.20 05:36:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:deadpool lifetone wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong . Nova , if its still Nova by then it will make it to a console . but the best part may be , its going to be cross platform if they start using the new ( Vulcan API ) . if Valkyrie made it to PS4 , I wouldn't doubt NOVA will as well in the future . but I rather stick to a p.c since its easily upgradeable . NO, it will NOT be. You cannot create a cross-platform FPS. It is not possible. There is no possible way to balance controllers against Mice, and any means of separation of both player communities is completely counter to the principle of New Eden. EVE Valkyrie can do that because it's a game where a mouse gives no advantage, and a controller is honestly the best control method. I'm getting one for EVE: Valkyrie and Ace Combat 7 because I grew up with Ace Combat. Like you I will be going for later versions of the Sony platform, mainly because of Ace Combat. It's still my favourite game ever (maybe even compared with Dust...). OK, favourite flight combat simulator, anyway. :) |
Mobius Wyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.20 12:36:00 -
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deadpool lifetone wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:deadpool lifetone wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong . Nova , if its still Nova by then it will make it to a console . but the best part may be , its going to be cross platform if they start using the new ( Vulcan API ) . if Valkyrie made it to PS4 , I wouldn't doubt NOVA will as well in the future . but I rather stick to a p.c since its easily upgradeable . NO, it will NOT be. You cannot create a cross-platform FPS. It is not possible. There is no possible way to balance controllers against Mice, and any means of separation of both player communities is completely counter to the principle of New Eden. EVE Valkyrie can do that because it's a game where a mouse gives no advantage, and a controller is honestly the best control method. I'm getting one for EVE: Valkyrie and Ace Combat 7 because I grew up with Ace Combat. . You say no , but the technology is out there already and tested . :::khronos vulkan::: ( this why Sony and Xbox ) talking about cross platforming consoles . read up on it ( got released Feb 2016 ) if the Vulkan driver's are adapted to consoles ( which supports virtually almost every Gaming Engine there is already ) . and to your Controller vs Mouse rant! ( they're now online features that limit Mouse DPI if you are playing certain cross platform games ) . that's a developers choice if they choose to have cross platform restrictions or limits to make it a even playing field . some will complain and whine etc , but I was doing just fine smoking certain scrubs that used keyboard & mouse in DUST514 . so I won't use the ""but they have a keyboard & mouse"" Crutch! Excuse . if you're good , you're good . simple as uno , dos , chicken lol =ƒÆÇ=ƒâÅ=ƒÄ« The way a mouse worked in Dust 514 is not at all how a mouse works on a PC. Dust 514 did not support raw mouse input, which is translating movement of the mouse directly into movement of your character. What Dust 514 basically did was drastically slow down mouse input so that only someone with an adjustable DPI mouse could get a reasonable turn rate in-game, and even then the aim was nowhere near as precise as in a PC game.
Every FPS on PC uses raw mouse input by default because it allows the highest degree of control and precision. If CCP were to attempt to restrict mouse input to allow game controllers to be competitive with mice, you can write off any potential PC players right at the start. It's really that simple.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:23:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Because I'm THAT confident NOVA will make to to the Sony systems.
**** tinfoil bullshit. I'm a betting man. 500 mil ISK Eve side if I'm wrong Hm, If I played Eve I would bet considering I am that confident it won't make it to ps4pro. The reasoning behind it it's pretty simple: assuming CCP learned from the PS3 experience (launching a persistant game universe on a platform that is going to be replaced shortly) even if they intend to publish their game on a Sony platform again, it should really be on the next iteration (some kind of "Playstation 5", to be clear). If console cycles are going to be shorter (and they probably will, since Xbox offers a much more powerful machine than ps4 pro in 2017), it would be wise to "just wait" for the new "playstation 5" or whatever it's going to be called (not ps4pro): we're talking about late 2018 / early 2019 anyway, and hopefully Nova should be at least in advanced development at that point. Moreover, every PS4 Pro game must be able to run on a normal ps4 at the same framerate (at least in multiplayer), and considering that as far as we've seen CCP Shanghai doesn't really like that kind of hardware limitations, it's fair enough to assume that it won't make it to ps4 pro. That said, I'm also pretty interested in ps4 pro, but only because of the awesome (imo) first party exclusives and for Final Fantasy XV that will surely run and look much better that a standard ps4. TLDR: OP is a phaggot And that is supposed to be an insult how?
Dustkillz and chill
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:37:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:And that is supposed to be an insult how? Because bundles of sticks make garbage gamers, obviously
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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Posted - 2016.09.20 17:07:00 -
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no. obviously, OP's ph factors are off. he just stinky. he pha-ggot to put on DEO. iderno. just bored at work atm.
carry on.
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