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Posted - 2016.05.15 18:00:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. 
Just because ignorant people are ignorant doesn't mean something is offensive.
Anyone who gets offended by someone uttering a religious phrase can go and copulate aggressively with themselves.
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Posted - 2016.05.15 19:44:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
It's not ignorance as far as I know, it's more about situational awereness. If you are in a Mosque, hearing these words won't make you think of a suicidal attack, but hearing a guy in an airport shouting the same exact words for no reason, well, it's a bit different.
It depends on the "intention" actually. If the name of the corporation is referred to a suicidal attack, which I personally believe, it is offensive imo.
Your interpretation of a common phrase uttered literally billions of times a day around the world for a vast host of reasons is irrelevant, because your ignorance does not make something offensive.
You not knowing what Allahu Akbar means, or how common it is, because you are ignorant, is not enough to be offensive.
Tasty lunch?
Allahu Akbar.
Not raining today?
Allahu Akbar.
Just had a kid?
Allahu Akbar.
Just saw a fine girl?
Allahu Akbar.
Stop being such a xenophobic coward.
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Posted - 2016.05.16 14:04:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
the guy shouting Allahu Akbar for no reason is just praising his god or is about to explode.
For no reason.
You used an airport in your previous example. So, could he have just seen his wife/child/other close relation who just made it out of a drone strike two days ago in any of the myriad countries that are currently subject to that horror. Or he could have just had a bag dropped on his foot. Or he could have just found out his wife is pregnant. Or he won the lottery. Or he lost his job. Or he found out his wife is dead. Or he found out he has cancer.
Just because YOU associate those words with people committing suicide attacks(because of the fearmongering of the media, and your own ignorance of Islam) does not make it so.
Your outright refusal to see that is why you are a xenophobe. You don't understand the people that you consider a threat, and you have made no effort to understand.
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
And actually, I'm pretty sure it's not me being xenophobic because I'm really not, but it's more because of those handful of people that uses the exact same words for terrorist attacks. Blame them, don't blame what you call "ignorance".
Why would I blame someone who said something when YOU are the one making garbage associations? Just because you clutch your purse extra tight when someone says something so common as to almost be meaningless doesn't mean that it is a battlecry, as you claimed.
It is your incorrect conclusions we are talking about, not someone saying the two most commonly spoken words in arabic.
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Posted - 2016.05.16 14:06:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. It is a bit of a location context issue. Also, if you are meeting your friend Jack at the airport, it is best to say "Hello Jack", rather than "Hi Jack".
You can say "Hi Jack" as long as you are white.
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
Alhamdu-lillahi, Katthhara Allah kheirak would better fit your example.
Unfortunetely I know enough of islam to know that misinterpratation of the Quran is rampant. You seek ignorance in the wrong place, when you should really seek ignorance into certain interpretations of the Quran. And as I already said, it depends on the context: it's not a secret that Allahu Akbar is also used for much less lofty ideals, and really because of the sounding board made by mass media that Allahu Akbar might be considered offensive outside of its context. Who tells you that the guy who named the corporation is actually muslim? And why would you praise God in a videogame, anyway?
Interpretation of the Qu'ran has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about.
We are talking about YOUR assumption that someone could have no reason for shouting Allahu Akbar in an airport, and the unease it would cause you.
Of course it is not a secret that Allahu Akbar is uttered in the time surrounding a suicide attack. By the perpetrators and the victims.
If both an attacker and a victim use the same expression, to express very different feelings, it is obvious to me that the phrase has no connection to the act.
As for why people bring their religion with them into a videogame? All religious people are crazy, so it is no surprise they can't separate their worlds.
Even if the guy is not a muslim, the term is not offensive by default. It might have negative connotations to some, but the majority of its use is benign.
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:On a completely different topic you made a different, much more interesting point: wrote: could he have just seen his wife/child/other close relation who just made it out of a drone strike two days ago in any of the myriad countries that are currently subject to that horror Sad but true. This surely is the leit-motiv for those who decide to suicide, guess it is some kind of revenge toward the "western world", but still either way, only innocents get caught into the mix. Be it Paris or Raqqa, and it surely won't help to decapitate random people or to send more drone strikes.
The west has earned so much more terror than we have received. People shouldn't be surprised people want to put bombs under our asses, we should be surprised that so FEW bombs end up under our asses.
It was recently the 100th anniversary of Sykes Picot, and during the whole century that followed, there has not been a single day where The West was not screwing the middle east.
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