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The KTM Duke
EVE Corporation 917412
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Posted - 2016.05.15 10:22:00 -
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A corp named " Holocaust squad " is offensive, while "allaho akbur" is not. Seems legit, its CCP .
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SAMEERio
Pug-Nus The-Office
367
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Posted - 2016.05.15 10:33:00 -
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
8198
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Posted - 2016.05.15 10:39:00 -
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Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3778
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Posted - 2016.05.15 11:19:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub.
And Holocaust actually means "sacrifice by fire". See, it really depends on the situation and the "side-meaning" you give things that makes them offensive or not. In fact, as you said Holocaust is now referred to the genocide of a race (also, please," race") of people as much as Allahu Akbar is known as the battle cry of religious extremists who are about to explode.
Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not.
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The KTM Duke
EVE Corporation 917412
1256
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Posted - 2016.05.15 11:21:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub. Pretty sure in paris, bruxelles,africa think the same
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The KTM Duke
EVE Corporation 917412
1256
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Posted - 2016.05.15 11:22:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub. And Holocaust actually means "sacrifice by fire". See, it really depends on the situation and the "side-meaning" you give things that makes them offensive or not. In fact, as you said Holocaust is now referred to the genocide of a race (also, please," race") of people as much as Allahu Akbar is known as the battle cry of religious extremists who are about to explode. Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. Finally someone got it, thx
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xmus-jaxon flaxon-waxon
Suck My Null Sack
53
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Posted - 2016.05.15 14:22:00 -
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The KTM Duke wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub. And Holocaust actually means "sacrifice by fire". See, it really depends on the situation and the "side-meaning" you give things that makes them offensive or not. In fact, as you said Holocaust is now referred to the genocide of a race (also, please," race") of people as much as Allahu Akbar is known as the battle cry of religious extremists who are about to explode. Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. Finally someone got it, thx Boo hoo cry cry cry. CCP relishes your salty tears you scrub. Stop crying about a Corp name with 2 weeks left
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.15 15:16:00 -
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The KTM Duke wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub. Pretty sure in paris, bruxelles,africa think the same and if you get a culture you would know that there have been more massacres in name of god than from ****-fascism. Don't mind Pokey, he changed classes into White Knight and can't afford a respec :/
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The KTM Duke
EVE Corporation 917412
1256
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Posted - 2016.05.15 16:10:00 -
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xmus-jaxon flaxon-waxon wrote:The KTM Duke wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub. And Holocaust actually means "sacrifice by fire". See, it really depends on the situation and the "side-meaning" you give things that makes them offensive or not. In fact, as you said Holocaust is now referred to the genocide of a race (also, please," race") of people as much as Allahu Akbar is known as the battle cry of religious extremists who are about to explode. Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. Finally someone got it, thx Boo hoo cry cry cry. CCP relishes your salty tears you scrub. Stop crying about a Corp name with 2 weeks left Said the guy posting with an alt
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xmus-jaxon flaxon-waxon
Suck My Null Sack
53
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Posted - 2016.05.15 16:13:00 -
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The KTM Duke wrote:xmus-jaxon flaxon-waxon wrote:The KTM Duke wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub. And Holocaust actually means "sacrifice by fire". See, it really depends on the situation and the "side-meaning" you give things that makes them offensive or not. In fact, as you said Holocaust is now referred to the genocide of a race (also, please," race") of people as much as Allahu Akbar is known as the battle cry of religious extremists who are about to explode. Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. Finally someone got it, thx Boo hoo cry cry cry. CCP relishes your salty tears you scrub. Stop crying about a Corp name with 2 weeks left Said the guy posting with an alt Says the guy who calls himself the 'duke' but should really be called the 'peasant'
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
29665
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Posted - 2016.05.15 16:19:00 -
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>EVE Corporation 917412 >EVE
The real offence here.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
8201
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Posted - 2016.05.15 17:44:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The KTM Duke wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Well one is reffering to the genocide of a race of people.
The latter simply means "God is Great" (though fairly certain that's not the correct English spelling). How is that offensive?
Get cultured, scrub. Pretty sure in paris, bruxelles,africa think the same and if you get a culture you would know that there have been more massacres in name of god than from ****-fascism. Don't mind Pokey, he changed classes into White Knight and can't afford a respec :/
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... Devil's Descendants
2724
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Posted - 2016.05.15 17:56:00 -
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Saying Allahu Akbar is no different than saying God is the greatest and stuff like that. There is nothing offensive in that. Just because media are putting this saying in wrong light doesn't mean it is bad / offensive.
To the guy who wrote about the whole : say it at the airport... there is so much wrong with this one. Like... If you say a name of a wrong football club in Warsaw (capital of Poland), you can get beat up really bad. Does that mean this club's name is offensive? No.
Vigilant Pilot
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
407
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Posted - 2016.05.15 18:00:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not.
Just because ignorant people are ignorant doesn't mean something is offensive.
Anyone who gets offended by someone uttering a religious phrase can go and copulate aggressively with themselves.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3781
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Posted - 2016.05.15 19:01:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. Just because ignorant people are ignorant doesn't mean something is offensive. Anyone who gets offended by someone uttering a religious phrase can go and copulate aggressively with themselves.
It's not ignorance as far as I know, it's more about situational awereness. If you are in a Mosque, hearing these words won't make you think of a suicidal attack, but hearing a guy in an airport shouting the same exact words for no reason, well, it's a bit different.
It depends on the "intention" actually. If the name of the corporation is referred to a suicidal attack, which I personally believe, it is offensive imo.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
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Posted - 2016.05.15 19:44:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
It's not ignorance as far as I know, it's more about situational awereness. If you are in a Mosque, hearing these words won't make you think of a suicidal attack, but hearing a guy in an airport shouting the same exact words for no reason, well, it's a bit different.
It depends on the "intention" actually. If the name of the corporation is referred to a suicidal attack, which I personally believe, it is offensive imo.
Your interpretation of a common phrase uttered literally billions of times a day around the world for a vast host of reasons is irrelevant, because your ignorance does not make something offensive.
You not knowing what Allahu Akbar means, or how common it is, because you are ignorant, is not enough to be offensive.
Tasty lunch?
Allahu Akbar.
Not raining today?
Allahu Akbar.
Just had a kid?
Allahu Akbar.
Just saw a fine girl?
Allahu Akbar.
Stop being such a xenophobic coward.
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byte modal
791
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Posted - 2016.05.15 22:30:00 -
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Because the second corp is about Starwars' General Akbar landing in for a Hawaiian vacation. They were just too stupid to see their typos, ruining the intended humor.
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The KTM Duke
EVE Corporation 917412
1259
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Posted - 2016.05.16 06:09:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
It's not ignorance as far as I know, it's more about situational awereness. If you are in a Mosque, hearing these words won't make you think of a suicidal attack, but hearing a guy in an airport shouting the same exact words for no reason, well, it's a bit different.
It depends on the "intention" actually. If the name of the corporation is referred to a suicidal attack, which I personally believe, it is offensive imo.
Your interpretation of a common phrase uttered literally billions of times a day around the world for a vast host of reasons is irrelevant, because your ignorance does not make something offensive. You not knowing what Allahu Akbar means, or how common it is, because you are ignorant, is not enough to be offensive. Tasty lunch? Allahu Akbar. Not raining today? Allahu Akbar. Just had a kid? Allahu Akbar. Just saw a fine girl? Allahu Akbar. Stop being such a xenophobic coward. Terroristic attacks are way more coward, you only get it when it is too late.
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Jenny Tales
Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance
177
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Posted - 2016.05.16 06:46:00 -
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lol skill of god should be renamed
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james selim brownstein
NECROM0NGERS Spaceships in Space
446
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Posted - 2016.05.16 07:06:00 -
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You know this is the Dust 514 you're talking about right?
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3782
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Posted - 2016.05.16 07:25:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
It's not ignorance as far as I know, it's more about situational awereness. If you are in a Mosque, hearing these words won't make you think of a suicidal attack, but hearing a guy in an airport shouting the same exact words for no reason, well, it's a bit different.
It depends on the "intention" actually. If the name of the corporation is referred to a suicidal attack, which I personally believe, it is offensive imo.
Your interpretation of a common phrase uttered literally billions of times a day around the world for a vast host of reasons is irrelevant, because your ignorance does not make something offensive. You not knowing what Allahu Akbar means, or how common it is, because you are ignorant, is not enough to be offensive. Tasty lunch? Allahu Akbar. Not raining today? Allahu Akbar. Just had a kid? Allahu Akbar. Just saw a fine girl? Allahu Akbar. Stop being such a xenophobic coward.
I probably have not been clear enough, or, actually, that's what I'd really love to think.
I'll set another example: I perfectly know the meaning, but still, based on situations, it is used in different ways as you also said.
Sieg Heil, means salute to victory. There may very well be cases where you use "sieg heil" in german without being charged of **** apology, but still used in certain contexts it does get such connotations.
Now, you are playing an online game, it's about war where you make things blow up. You shoot people, kill people. It will be natural for people to think that my "sieg heil" is a reference to nazism.
As much as "Holocaust Squad" is surely offensive enough, it is at least the same for Allahu Akbar. Not because saying that "God is (the) great(est)" is offensive because it really isn't, but because of the connotation those words have today when used in certain contexts. After all, "Holocaust squad" would "just" mean "Sacrifice Squad", right?
Again, try saying Allahu Akbar in different situations and you have very different outcomes. It looks like a sophism, but it really isn't. It's not that there are muslims, some muslims are terrorists, all muslim are terrorists, but it's more like the outcome of an experience you never had directly (one of the wonderful things you are born with, just for being human) that makes you wonder if the guy shouting Allahu Akbar for no reason is just praising his god or is about to explode. And actually, I'm pretty sure it's not me being xenophobic because I'm really not, but it's more because of those handful of people that uses the exact same words for terrorist attacks. Blame them, don't blame what you call "ignorance".
"Someone" before me said that facts does not exist, what exist are only interpretations.
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD
168
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Posted - 2016.05.16 08:50:00 -
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The KTM Duke wrote:A corp named " Holocaust squad " is offensive, while "allaho akbur" is not. Seems legit, its CCP . . How about you keep those salty tears tucked in those sissy eye-ducts . here's a fun fact ( the German's killed millions of Jews / the English-American killed millions of Indigenous natives / the Jews killed millions of Muslims / the Incas ripped out millions of hearts etc ) .
Moral of the story? Go cry else where . your beginning to lag out the forums lol
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CommanderBolt
Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
4232
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Posted - 2016.05.16 09:10:00 -
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While I understand that the holocaust was a dark tragedy in human history, the Jews do not soley own human misery.
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The KTM Duke
EVE Corporation 917412
1260
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Posted - 2016.05.16 09:16:00 -
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deadpool lifetone wrote:The KTM Duke wrote:A corp named " Holocaust squad " is offensive, while "allaho akbur" is not. Seems legit, its CCP . . How about you keep those salty tears tucked in those sissy eye-ducts . here's a fun fact ( the German's killed millions of Jews / the English-American killed millions of Indigenous natives / the Jews killed millions of Muslims / the Incas ripped out millions of hearts etc ) . Moral of the story? Go cry else where . your beginning to lag out the forums lol Someone got butthurt, a tip for you, play on your server and i wont lag you
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
7738
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Posted - 2016.05.16 13:32:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not.
It is a bit of a location context issue. Also, if you are meeting your friend Jack at the airport, it is best to say "Hello Jack", rather than "Hi Jack".
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xmus-jaxon flaxon-waxon
Suck My Null Sack
55
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Posted - 2016.05.16 13:42:00 -
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deadpool lifetone wrote:The KTM Duke wrote:A corp named " Holocaust squad " is offensive, while "allaho akbur" is not. Seems legit, its CCP . . How about you keep those salty tears tucked in those sissy eye-ducts . here's a fun fact ( the German's killed millions of Jews / the English-American killed millions of Indigenous natives / the Jews killed millions of Muslims / the Incas ripped out millions of hearts etc ) . Moral of the story? Go cry else where . your beginning to lag out the forums lol Dukie got REKT
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
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Posted - 2016.05.16 14:04:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
the guy shouting Allahu Akbar for no reason is just praising his god or is about to explode.
For no reason.
You used an airport in your previous example. So, could he have just seen his wife/child/other close relation who just made it out of a drone strike two days ago in any of the myriad countries that are currently subject to that horror. Or he could have just had a bag dropped on his foot. Or he could have just found out his wife is pregnant. Or he won the lottery. Or he lost his job. Or he found out his wife is dead. Or he found out he has cancer.
Just because YOU associate those words with people committing suicide attacks(because of the fearmongering of the media, and your own ignorance of Islam) does not make it so.
Your outright refusal to see that is why you are a xenophobe. You don't understand the people that you consider a threat, and you have made no effort to understand.
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: And actually, I'm pretty sure it's not me being xenophobic because I'm really not, but it's more because of those handful of people that uses the exact same words for terrorist attacks. Blame them, don't blame what you call "ignorance".
Why would I blame someone who said something when YOU are the one making garbage associations? Just because you clutch your purse extra tight when someone says something so common as to almost be meaningless doesn't mean that it is a battlecry, as you claimed.
It is your incorrect conclusions we are talking about, not someone saying the two most commonly spoken words in arabic.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
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Posted - 2016.05.16 14:06:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. It is a bit of a location context issue. Also, if you are meeting your friend Jack at the airport, it is best to say "Hello Jack", rather than "Hi Jack".
You can say "Hi Jack" as long as you are white.
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Dust User
Opus Arcana
3713
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Posted - 2016.05.16 16:20:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually you can test if you want: go in an airport and shout Allahu Akbar a couple times and see if people find it offensive or not. It is a bit of a location context issue. Also, if you are meeting your friend Jack at the airport, it is best to say "Hello Jack", rather than "Hi Jack". You can say "Hi Jack" as long as you are white.
Are you implying that there is something wrong with that?
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3783
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Posted - 2016.05.16 16:27:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
the guy shouting Allahu Akbar for no reason is just praising his god or is about to explode.
For no reason. You used an airport in your previous example. So, could he have just seen his wife/child/other close relation who just made it out of a drone strike two days ago in any of the myriad countries that are currently subject to that horror. Or he could have just had a bag dropped on his foot. Or he could have just found out his wife is pregnant. Or he won the lottery. Or he lost his job. Or he found out his wife is dead. Or he found out he has cancer. Just because YOU associate those words with people committing suicide attacks(because of the fearmongering of the media, and your own ignorance of Islam) does not make it so.
Alhamdu-lillahi, Katthhara Allah kheirak would better fit your example.
Unfortunetely I know enough of islam to know that misinterpratation of the Quran is rampant. You seek ignorance in the wrong place, when you should really seek ignorance into certain interpretations of the Quran. And as I already said, it depends on the context: it's not a secret that Allahu Akbar is also used for much less lofty ideals, and really because of the sounding board made by mass media that Allahu Akbar might be considered offensive outside of its context. Who tells you that the guy who named the corporation is actually muslim? And why would you praise God in a videogame, anyway?
On a completely different topic you made a different, much more interesting point:
wrote: could he have just seen his wife/child/other close relation who just made it out of a drone strike two days ago in any of the myriad countries that are currently subject to that horror
Sad but true. This surely is the leit-motiv for those who decide to suicide, guess it is some kind of revenge toward the "western world", but still either way, only innocents get caught into the mix. Be it Paris or Raqqa, and it surely won't help to decapitate random people or to send more drone strikes.
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