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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.11 12:18:00 -
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At this wait I'm just waiting to see CCPs ethereal "plans" actually manifest into reality.
I'm like the poster boy for bashing on this project so I try to leave it at that.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.11 22:05:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Anyway, my point, through all my admitted rage, was not that we were included in the launch of Nova, but the fact that the only way we have to possibly play Nova in our favorite role is based on a "maybe". Put yourself in a pilots shoes for a moment, if you were told that you would have to wait until later to enjoy (different from play) the successor to a game you spent years on, and even then, without a guarantee that your favorite role is in it, you'd be rather pissed as well.
This combines with my rage at the continuation of a small team with minimal resources and well, bitterness barely covers it :/
I guess I'm just pretty worn down from SOON(tm)
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.11 22:39:00 -
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It's always fun watching people who can't kill vehicles get happy at the thought of COD 514
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.11 23:22:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:project with limited resources
And here is the primary problem.
We can react however we care to, for some of us the only unique and memorable aspect of the game was that it was a combined arms game, it's not our fault CCP pulled the resources required to adequately program and balance that aspect. Then to compound issues, they use an untrained unpaid focus group to attempt to glean balance issues, leading to the endless run around we had.
It's just sad to be fed yet another maybe while we sit on our hands and pray Nova isn't just a dumbed down shooter with an EVE skin.
Double jump. Double kill. The mainstream is strong in this one.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.12 00:39:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:
I can only hope that Rattati stays steady on this course and forces them to not even consider joining Nova.
You so hard, shunning players who enjoyed a part of the game that was sold to them from day one.
Very badass, such vet, wow, much cool.
Also only bads didn't have at least one vehicle friend and some AV, so really only bads got trolled by vehicle users
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.12 01:51:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Being negative about the little ember of hope that is Nova will not fan the ember enough to produce flames adequately large to see combined combat.
If you ever hope to have a good, viable, long term combined combat game THESE are the steps that must be taken. There are no shortcuts. There is no wand waving. There are no miracles.
Be angry. Be frustrated. But be realistic.
The question really is though, how long will we continue to wait to see even a glimmer of that original vision? And will it arive before the market is flooded with similar titles? Purely speculation at this point, but I lose faith when Hilmar repeatedly distances himself from the DUST IP and continues to keep resources low. Just because it's a reality doesn't mean we can't be pissed about it, or that we aren't being realistic.
It's not incumbent upon us to stoke the flames of enthusiasm for CCP, it's their job to provide exciting and innovative content to get us excited for. I get that they have to build the foundation, that's not my gripe. My gripe is that they're trying to build a foundation with skeleton crew and clay bricks because that's all they've been given after all this time.
Really though all the negativity and optimism in the world is entirely pointless if Hilmar ends up canning this project too. You could argue that it's up to us to build that excitement but I'm sorry, people were very clear they wanted Legion or for more to be done with DUST. It was very clear we have a passionate if not dysfunctional community that loves this game on both sides of the aisle.
I guess it just boils my blood when Hilmar seemingly refuses to acknowledge the treasure trove he's sitting on as he repeatedly looks like he just caught Ebola whenever DUST is mentioned.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.12 02:00:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
Really though all the negativity and optimism in the world is entirely pointless if Hilmar ends up canning this project too. You could argue that it's up to us to build that excitement but I'm sorry, people were very clear they wanted Legion or for more to be done with DUST. It was very clear we have a passionate if not dysfunctional community that loves this game on both sides of the aisle.
I think we have a very different memory of how the player base reacted to the Legion announcement a Fan Fest 2014
That's because Hilmar all but shut down the game, without releasing anything other than a small video for a game that never came. What really fanned the flames too was players who spent hundreds of dollars to go to fanfest for the next big thing in DUST, only to be told to **** off by Hilmar. PLENTY of people wanted a port, wanted "Phoenix", wanted LongLiveLegion. We had what, two years of that with nothing but balance shuffles while we waited for more info?
Yes, people were pissed, because CCP built us up only to tear us down in one of the worst PR blunders I've ever witnessed from a gaming company. The fact that so many stayed past that is testament to how much people love this game, and wanted it to continue.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.12 02:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:We're masochists.
I believe that's been scientifically proven by this point.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.12 11:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Derrith Erador wrote: Lots of stuff. When you can tell me and CCP Rattati both how to perfectly balance vehicles in Nova from release onwards without ongoing nerd and buff cycles I think you'll really have traction with that vehicle complaint. As of right now no existing dust vehicle should transition into Nova. Not a damn one is worthy.
I feel like if they aren't able to figure out balance by now, then adding them "later" isn't going to change that. They're just going to have an infantry only game that suddenly gets vehicles and it will be even worse than it already is.
That really feels like something that needs to be baked in from day one, otherwise we'll end up with some watered down power up system like SW Battlefront. But, that's what happens when a company doesn't want to commit to a game, you have to take the scraps you're given :/
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.13 20:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: The difficulty is determining what role vehicles have in Dust.
This is why I personally don't trust the approach of nailing down the FPS first. It sounds like a sound plan, but I really fear that the team is more infantry focuses as is and if they continue to focus on infantry only while building the game, they're going to have an even HARDER time making vehicles worthwhile and balanced later on down the line. It really feels like something you put a lot of time and dedication into up front to ensure that everything works together.
I'm just really worried of getting a generic shooter with an EVE skin and maybe some vehicle power ups the year after release. Nothing but speculation at this point, just the whole thing puts me on edge.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.15 13:58:00 -
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SAMEERio wrote:The game hasn't even been released and people are already criticizing the game. Dafuq?
Do you even internet?
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.15 16:18:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:SAMEERio wrote:The game hasn't even been released and people are already criticizing the game. Dafuq? Do you even internet? Seriously. People started saying Cyberpunk 2077 would suck right after the trailer showed maybe 3-4 years ago, and we won't even get the game until next year.
That game can suck all it wants I'm getting it either way lol.
I still hope Nova doesn't end up as a generic FPS cash grab, guess we'll just wait and see what road it ultimately travels.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.15 20:58:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
That game can suck all it wants I'm getting it either way lol.
And this is why video game quality has gone in the toilet, and the customers become paying beta testers. CCP doesn't have to invest any effort in making a good game to get your money, so why would they?
This is funny because I'm basically the poster boy for bashing on CCP for the way they've handled this game and it's potential predecessors.
My comment was simply eluding to the fact that Cyberpunk 2077 is an awesome concept and while yes, I could nitpick on specifics, the game has the right setting and tone for me to not really care all that much at the moment.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.05.15 21:33:00 -
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SAMEERio wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:SAMEERio wrote:The game hasn't even been released and people are already criticizing the game. Dafuq? Do you even internet? What is this "Internet" you speak of?
It's a magical land where everything tastes like salt and the tears flow like golden showers from way on high.
PRAISE BE TO THE INTERNET, HARBINGER OF RANDOM OUTBURSTS AND CAT GIFS GALORE!!!
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.07.02 01:01:00 -
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No matter how you slice it the game is still getting minimal resources put into it so no matter what you expect, keep it low.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
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