But this is CCP.

Now i could easily resub back to EVE, i enjoyed it, it is a social game but even so afk mining or just floating about was fun. There was always something do but the major drawback for me was always PVP, it was terrible frankly since it was a giant blobfest the vast majority of the time and finding a 1v1 without an OGB was next to impossible i found unless it was someone afk in a FW complex and this ruined null and FW to a point even though being in FW was fun.

You might learn a thing or two from Zarvox Toral when it comes to PvP. He can make any confrontation not matter how stacked against him it becomes look really intense and fun. No, seriously, just look at him. https://www.twitch.tv/zarvoxtoral

But EVE is complete, you can dive in and have a vast number of options at your fingertips and play it.

Eve is only complete because it's been 12 years since it first launched Eve Online had an extremely rough start as well which is almost comparable to how Dust started.

DUST514 is not complete and got the plug pulled and now 6 years later Nova is announced, not with a fanfare but a whimper, Hilmar didn't look too impressed and in the same breath said that CCP would not be afraid to axe failing projects which is a red flag to me since we know that CCP were not happy with DUST and Nova is still a unlit project.

If enough players like us support Project Nova and since the reviews of the project are looking very promising, he might be singing a different tune eventually. But you also have to remember where Hilmar is coming from. He thought Dust would succeed and then look what happened.

What i saw was labeled as a 'tech demo' to showcase the game at its core and how it is going back to its roots as an FPS to fix the basic mechanics which is all well and good but if other mechanics are missing or just outright bad then you end up like MGO3 with great mechanics but shite gameplay.

The demo was very basic, the map was small and no longer on a planet so that hinted at arena type maps and not open world which also means no vehicles or AV.

It's actually not a bad move. Sure having a lot of features in Dust gave the game immersion but all of that great immersion kept getting constantly broken by a badly designed core FPS. We now have proof through Dust's history that a core FPS MUST BE BUILT AND STABILIZED FIRST ABOVE ALL ELSE. There is no exception to that rule.

Players can quickly jump into a match but dev comments after stated that you can unlock more things for it the more you play that role, this is a bad decision and a dumbing down of the game and a forced restriction of the player choices. SP and skillbooks allow you to train up many skills which can improve your role even if you for a logi suit to be a slayer, look at EVE for direction again freedom to do what you want and how to do it.

That's not how I read it. He said that using the role added SP for that role and its weapons. But I don't think I read anything from Rattati that I won't be able to fit a pair of Nova Knives on an Amarr Heavy if I choose to from the start.

32 roles? I had more with my vehicles and even so the 4 different factions which will have the 3 different suits split up twice really does mean 8 roles which will be the same for the 4 factions so it is not really 32 roles if Logi features 4 times.

Jump jets, talk about not learning from the myo problem where we currently have scouts jumping around like they are on the moon.

You can't say that at all for a game that is literally rebuilt on a different engine from that of Dust. We don't even know how myos would work anymore in Nova exactly. Sure you can speculate, but that's all you can do. Speculate. Not confirm unless CCP clearly says so. For all we know Myos might lose their jump bonus and the jump jet mechanics might be different.

16v16 on PC for a supposedly MMO, we have had 16v16 on PS3 for 6 years where is the ambition? EVE has stupidly massive fleet fights, your novels and stories has massive fights in both space and ground so why not Nova?.

A roundtable was nonexistant, no other information relating to the game was released or even expanded upon, very vauge statements released to gaming websites in which i have heard before many times years ago when DUST was around in that the game is looking to do x and we want to do y.

Big difference with Dust and Nova. Dust was hyped like hell. Nova is not. That's a good thing.

To Be Continued on my Next Post

I am a realist when it comes to any games these days, i know that EA will shaft you and that Ubisoft will rush something half finished and that CCP thinks big but fails to deliver unless it is EVE.

I understand you're trying to be a realist, but I think you're inadvertently coming off as extremely pessimistic without realizing it.

DUST has had years on an outdated platform which everyone knew it would not last, they achieved linking it to EVE but overall failed at what they wanted to accomplish and what the players wanted to do in the game. The game had good times and bad times but most of it was linked to various events outside the players control such as 'rouge wedding' or change in staff which means a change in ideas and vision along with other side projects eating away at the office like Valkyrie/Legion.

Unfortunately Dust had too many bad times. Far more than the good times. I'm speaking from experience dating back to the close beta days. Thankfully, looking at Nova, the bad taste in my mouth left by Dust is going away. Slowly, but surely because now CCP is finally taking the advice that much of the Dust community has begged CCP to do. Although I didn't really expect CCP to actually go through with rebuilding the game down its original base code which is a gutsy move by itself.

Nova is a second chance if it does not get scrapped that is but will it suffer from the same problems that DUST suffered from? Will the same mistakes keep being repeated? will CCP actually learn anything? but then it is on PC which brings new challenges such as stopping cheaters with aimbots aswell as the lag switchers and possible mod abusers if they allow mods.

It's extremely unlikely that Nova will suffer what Dust suffered. For one there is CCP Rattati who has a clear record of making Dust great again even if it was for a short time. He was the reason we regained some hope. And any promises he made were actually backed up by visible progress. We saw Dust get better before our very eyes after Rattati took over. It was just too bad that Dust was on an aging platform with terrible legacy code that was the result of the bad leadership for Dust that existed long before Rattati came into the picture.

Second, Nova will NOT have Dust's legacy code at all. It will have the same assets but not the code which is the core of the problems that plagues Dust. This is also a good time for CCP to actually implement features and fixes that were never possible simply because of the bad legacy code.

Finally, there is the fact that expectations are finally being managed. No more hype train which means no more setting us all up for extreme disappointment like how they did with Dust.

End of the day i am taking everything CCP say with a big tanker full of salt until i see it actually implemented in the game.

I don't blame you. I have a skeptical view of this as well. Though not to the extent that you are now.

I think this is CCP last shot, they know it and we know it and unless it is really profitable they will not be afraid to pull the plug this time instead of letting it limp on.

Then let's make it worth it for CEO Hilmar Veigar to greenlight the project if you don't want to be disappointed again. Support Nova and let him know that we want this new game to succeed. https://twitter.com/HilmarVeigar

its only a dream ! go back to bed !