Taking things with skepticism is fine, just dont be a bitter salty angry vet. It's annoying, and it certainly doesn't help anything. Just keep a level head, wait, and see what's to come. Trust me.

LOL it was actually nicely formatted. But anyway people should care, every qq, rage, or applause matters even just a little bit. You can't just pick and choose what you want to hear or else you'll be left with a very biased impression. CCP needs to take in all the criticism they can get now to avoid major negatives on release or the long-run. Once they do that then they can ignore the good and the bad, and see if the product is turning to what they are proud of.

Found the tanker, guys! Would you like some more salt in your Kool Aid?

Isn't that how you like it though... needing an entire team to bring down one pilot?

Oh god here we go again. I would tell you to look up all the arguments from before but they have probably disappeared into the either, so allow us to summarise.

It's a tank versus on man: Now if this were one man with an assault, HMG or Mass Driver, I would agree with you, since they can't fight back.

However if we are talking an Anti-Vehicle for, with Anti-Vehicle weaponry, then yes the "Meat Suit" should win if he uses the environment and other tactics to his advantage.

But that's not how it works in real life: Almost true, most AV teams are 2-man, one to act as a spotter, ammo carrier and Anti-Personnel the other 2 fire the Quarter Million Pound Missile that can one shot an Abram's. This was observable in DUST where AVers would often pick up protection details from friendly mercy while moving into position.

But that tank costs 5 times as much SP and ISK: Firstly this myth was actually debunked, a dedicated AV fit came in at 2mill more SP and about 53,000 ISK Higher. This only included skills of equal stature on the vehicle tree.

Secondly ISK should never be used as balancing factor, ISK should be balanced to the item not vice versa.

But you can use your own tanks/vehicles/Dropships: We did regularly, one of the complaints made by Spkr was how Dropships could sit in his blind spot and solo him, or how LAV bombs could solo him, or how terrain could solo him etc etc etc.

Secondly this means that both sides need dedicated vehicle players all the time. And that the whole match is then decided by which teams tankers get superiority.

Finally, DUST and soon NOVA will have an arbitrary cap on the number of participants in a battle. That is to say I can only send 16 people from a corporation of possibly thousands to fight the battle. This means anything that swings force balance in one direction must be directly countered by something else, to maintain equilibrium. If vehicles require more than 1 person to taken them down you end up with a force disparity. Which makes the game center round Vehicles and AV useless.

You may have been watching, but it's clear you weren't paying attention.

I was one of the people saying Swarm tracking circles were too tight. Unfortunately a bug in swarm launcher missiles resulted in the turning circle increasing dramatically towards the end of their path. Was it fair? Most certainly not, it meant that most SL hits were on a vehicles critical points. Was it an AVers fault? Most definitely not.

I suppose your talking about the AV grenades? The ones that had a 1.5 meter lock-on distance? Well put it this way, if someone can get a grenade within 1.5 meters of a moving tank at the edge of grenade throwing distance, do they not deserve to do 1800 damage? And if they were close enough so as to not miss do you not think having a gunner, instead of being a solo death machine, would have solved the problem?

Once again, you show your lack of knowledge on Swarm Launcher mechanics, they most certainly could not lock-on through buildings or terrain, believe me I tried. Swarm Launchers were actually very temperamental and had a tendency to loose lock for no apparent reason. What you were seeing was the SL ability to maintain a lock for a short period of time (less than a second) during which an AV-er would duck back behind cover to conceal there launch location. Very advanced tactic.

I flew in Dropships during that time, back when no hud came up for infantry, but then again I was never really aiming at Infantry so it didn't bother me, the only time I needed I was already close enough to see the whites of their eyes.

When Swarm Lock-on range was 400m it was certainly at lot fairer than when it was less than 150m you know when Dropships had longer range and could sit just out side your lock-on pummeling infantry.

This only shows to prove why vehicles would NEVER have been balanced in DUST they had no role or reason. People treated them as big expensive Dropsuits. Maybe if they ever get introduced into NOVA, CCP won't make the same mistake of adding them without giving them a cause.

You sound almost exactly like Taki and Spkr, are you sure your not an ALT for one of them?

If you look up some of my old posts, I'm one of the people who wanted more vehicles with better defined roles. If you also look you will see I'm opposed to "Call of Duty in Space".

Vehicles don't work with such small Team Sizes and unbalanced Force Strength doesn't work with any form of arbitrary cap.

Ideally we need at least 32v32 before it would make sense for medium class vehicles to come in to play.
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