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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2016.04.19 21:28:00 -
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Official Pokey Prediction is that a tech demo will be available for play for the new FPS game at FanFest. Who wants to bet against me?
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
2141
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Posted - 2016.04.19 21:32:00 -
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Your Boundless Optimism strikes again.
Game over.
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Jadek Menaheim
Incorruptibles
8490
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Posted - 2016.04.19 21:50:00 -
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There might be something to play in the Chaos room, but it's more likely to be CCP's VR experiments rather than notlegion.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.04.19 21:57:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Your Boundless Optimism strikes again.
Hey, I was right about the FPS remake the whole time wasn't I?
Mind you I expect something more along a tech demo than a full fledged game. More to show off the engine than anything.
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james selim brownstein
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2016.04.19 22:34:00 -
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WOOOOOOOOOO TRAILER HYPE!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
13243
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Posted - 2016.04.19 22:36:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Your Boundless Optimism strikes again. Hey, I was right about the FPS remake the whole time wasn't I? Mind you I expect something more along a tech demo than a full fledged game. More to show off the engine than anything.
I would not be surprised since CCP Frame said that they are rebuilding the entire game from scratch using Unreal Engine 4. Considering the man hours needed to rebuild an entire code in an effort to not only apply the lessons learned and what we wanted as a player base but to also eliminate that annoying legacy code that held back the game completely no one here in the forums should be expecting anything remotely close to a fully-functional game. If any of you do, you're kidding yourselves.
I was a bit bummed out that news of NotLegion was not listed anywhere in the Fanfest Schedule for 2016 but at the same time I was not surprised. However, CCP Rattati posted on Twitter saying to find him at Fanfest and he'll sit down with you at a table about it. Remember that Dust 514 wasn't listed anywhere in the 2015 Fanfest schedule either yet CCP Rattati sat down with players in a small room talking about what they were experimenting and wanting to do with Dust.
Sources:
https://twitter.com/CCP_Rattati/status/722101026589949952
https://youtu.be/x_RgGJpoUeg
Side Note:
There were some players who confused this with Project Legion but then they remembered "oh wait, that was with Unreal Engine 3, not 4. Never mind". Thus the term NotLegion was established to eliminate that confusion.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.04.19 22:40:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Your Boundless Optimism strikes again. Hey, I was right about the FPS remake the whole time wasn't I? Mind you I expect something more along a tech demo than a full fledged game. More to show off the engine than anything. I would not be surprised since CCP Frame said that they are rebuilding the entire game from scratch using Unreal Engine 4. Considering the man hours needed to rebuild an entire code in an effort to not only apply the lessons learned and what we wanted as a player base but to also eliminate that annoying legacy code that held back the game completely no one here in the forums should be expecting anything remotely close to a fully-functional game. If any of you do, you're kidding yourselves. I was a bit bummed out that news of NotLegion was not listed anywhere in the Fanfest Schedule for 2016 but at the same time I was not surprised. However, CCP Rattati posted on Twitter saying to find him at Fanfest and he'll sit down with you at a table about it. Remember that Dust 514 wasn't listed anywhere in the 2015 Fanfest schedule either yet CCP Rattati sat down with players in a small room talking about what they were experimenting and wanting to do with Dust. Sources: https://twitter.com/CCP_Rattati/status/722101026589949952https://youtu.be/x_RgGJpoUegSide Note: There were some players who confused this with Project Legion but then they remembered "oh wait, that was with Unreal Engine 3, not 4. Never mind". Thus the term NotLegion was established to eliminate that confusion.
Actually the FPS game was explicitly mentioned in a previous post about fanfest on the EVE site. News about the upcoming FPS game will be included in the 2 hour opening presentation on the 21st. They're frontloading all reveals at the start of fanfest, so fear not, you can expect to hear something about the work being done on the game .
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3734
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:10:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:
I would not be surprised since CCP Frame said that they are rebuilding the entire game from scratch using Unreal Engine 4. Considering the man hours needed to rebuild an entire code in an effort to not only apply the lessons learned and what we wanted as a player base but to also eliminate that annoying legacy code that held back the game completely no one here in the forums should be expecting anything remotely close to a fully-functional game. If any of you do, you're kidding yourselves.
I don't necessarly agree with that. It really depends on how much time the development team put into this project. What I mean is: considering there's a development team working on " a new Eve FPS" since at least October 2013, considering that they'll likely re-use at least the concepts for much of the environment/assets and given that they already had at least "a general idea" of what the game should look like gameplay-wise back in 2014 it is very possible that this New Eden FPS is at least in an Alpha/ late pre Alpha stage. The code itself is not the problem, at all: they are using a well enstablished game engine for what concerns FPS and all they have to do is tweak something here and there and write the game mechanics code, which, yes, requires some time and hard work, but for sure it doesn't require two-three years.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
385
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:13:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Official Pokey Prediction is that a tech demo will be available for play for the new FPS game at FanFest. Who wants to bet against me?
I'll take that bet all day.
Best case scenario is a video of a half completed level with some models running around. Or maybe a trailer.
CCP gets bonus points if it is still an upscaled Spine Crescent map like the Legion reveal.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:22:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Official Pokey Prediction is that a tech demo will be available for play for the new FPS game at FanFest. Who wants to bet against me? I'll take that bet all day. Best case scenario is a video of a half completed level with some models running around. Or maybe a trailer. CCP gets bonus points if it is still an upscaled Spine Crescent map like the Legion reveal.
How much of your soon to be worthless ISK are you willing to put on the line?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
13746
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:22:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Official Pokey Prediction is that a tech demo will be available for play for the new FPS game at FanFest. Who wants to bet against me? I'll take that bet all day. Best case scenario is a video of a half completed level with some models running around. Or maybe a trailer. CCP gets bonus points if it is still an upscaled Spine Crescent map like the Legion reveal. Quoting so you can't edit later.
I'm not betting against the Pokey's Boundless Optimist. Have you seen the stats on it? Its broken AF fam.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
13746
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:22:00 -
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Derp. Double post.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
13245
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:37:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
I would not be surprised since CCP Frame said that they are rebuilding the entire game from scratch using Unreal Engine 4. Considering the man hours needed to rebuild an entire code in an effort to not only apply the lessons learned and what we wanted as a player base but to also eliminate that annoying legacy code that held back the game completely no one here in the forums should be expecting anything remotely close to a fully-functional game. If any of you do, you're kidding yourselves.
I don't necessarly agree with that. It really depends on how much time the development team put into this project. What I mean is: considering there's a development team working on " a new Eve FPS" since at least October 2013, considering that they'll likely re-use at least the concepts for much of the environment/assets and given that they already had at least "a general idea" of what the game should look like gameplay-wise back in 2014 it is very possible that this New Eden FPS is at least in an Alpha/ late pre Alpha stage. The code itself is not the problem, at all: they are using a well enstablished game engine for what concerns FPS and all they have to do is tweak something here and there and write the game mechanics code, which, yes, requires some time and hard work, but for sure it doesn't require two-three years. It's the process as a whole that really takes the huge amount of time we're used to: if you knew anything about Final Fantasy 15 mechanics and knew anything of how the whole game should work, would it really take ten years to build the game? Of course not. Anyone who have used a game engine before and know how to code properly can achieve the same results (code-wise) in a fraction of the time (which, yes, would still be a lot of time, I'm not saying it would take one day)
For the record, I haven't really been following Final Fantasy all that well.
As for your statement about rebuilding the the FPS using the resources and concepts that were already tested and tried along with the hard lessons learned, then perhaps you might be right. However, even then I don't expect an Alpha until maybe next year because we don't know the exact size of CCP Rattati team. If it's the same skeleton crew that was used for Dust 514, then it will very likely take a while. So unless CCP actually added to the crew size as well as its budget, I don't expect much.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
13245
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:41:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Your Boundless Optimism strikes again. Hey, I was right about the FPS remake the whole time wasn't I? Mind you I expect something more along a tech demo than a full fledged game. More to show off the engine than anything. I would not be surprised since CCP Frame said that they are rebuilding the entire game from scratch using Unreal Engine 4. Considering the man hours needed to rebuild an entire code in an effort to not only apply the lessons learned and what we wanted as a player base but to also eliminate that annoying legacy code that held back the game completely no one here in the forums should be expecting anything remotely close to a fully-functional game. If any of you do, you're kidding yourselves. I was a bit bummed out that news of NotLegion was not listed anywhere in the Fanfest Schedule for 2016 but at the same time I was not surprised. However, CCP Rattati posted on Twitter saying to find him at Fanfest and he'll sit down with you at a table about it. Remember that Dust 514 wasn't listed anywhere in the 2015 Fanfest schedule either yet CCP Rattati sat down with players in a small room talking about what they were experimenting and wanting to do with Dust. Sources: https://twitter.com/CCP_Rattati/status/722101026589949952https://youtu.be/x_RgGJpoUegSide Note: There were some players who confused this with Project Legion but then they remembered "oh wait, that was with Unreal Engine 3, not 4. Never mind". Thus the term NotLegion was established to eliminate that confusion. Actually the FPS game was explicitly mentioned in a previous post about fanfest on the EVE site. News about the upcoming FPS game will be included in the 2 hour opening presentation on the 21st. They're frontloading all reveals at the start of fanfest, so fear not, you can expect to hear something about the work being done on the game .
Hmm... must be getting blind. I might need to see an ophthalmologist.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
385
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:44:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Press Attache wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Official Pokey Prediction is that a tech demo will be available for play for the new FPS game at FanFest. Who wants to bet against me? I'll take that bet all day. Best case scenario is a video of a half completed level with some models running around. Or maybe a trailer. CCP gets bonus points if it is still an upscaled Spine Crescent map like the Legion reveal. How much of your soon to be worthless ISK are you willing to put on the line?
Can't remember how much I have, but for sure I have 50 mill, so I'll put it up.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
385
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:
I'm not betting against the Pokey's Boundless Optimism. Have you seen the stats on it? Its broken AF fam.
Anyone betting on CCP Shanghai to be anything other than behind schedule doesn't know their history, or chooses to ignore it.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:50:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Press Attache wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Official Pokey Prediction is that a tech demo will be available for play for the new FPS game at FanFest. Who wants to bet against me? I'll take that bet all day. Best case scenario is a video of a half completed level with some models running around. Or maybe a trailer. CCP gets bonus points if it is still an upscaled Spine Crescent map like the Legion reveal. How much of your soon to be worthless ISK are you willing to put on the line? Can't remember how much I have, but for sure I have 50 mill, so I'll put it up.
Deal ;)
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2654
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Posted - 2016.04.20 01:41:00 -
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How do i spend skeel pooiints.
Am ded.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2016.04.20 09:17:00 -
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That I would believe that to be true cases me to have to bet against you. Why?
Incarna:
Was supposed to be walking in stations. Ended up crashing the processor while standing in quarters.
DUST 514:
Could have been the premier game on the playstation 4. The game that kicked off sales. A sort of "HALO killer" style situation if you will. Nope, that went to Destiny while DUST got unceremoniously dumped out of beta in May which wnded up still being a beta.
WoD:
Lol
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2016.04.20 09:18:00 -
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What the what? Double post.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Lord Vahzz
198
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Posted - 2016.04.20 12:01:00 -
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I predict it will be named Diques and Bums.
There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
22319
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Posted - 2016.04.20 12:01:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Official Pokey Prediction is that a tech demo will be available for play for the new FPS game at FanFest. Who wants to bet against me?
I'm not going to bet against my heart.
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Lord Vahzz
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Posted - 2016.04.20 12:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Official Pokey Prediction is that a tech demo will be available for play for the new FPS game at FanFest. Who wants to bet against me? I'm not going to bet against my heart.
Lies, you bet against me all the time
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
29325
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Posted - 2016.04.20 21:27:00 -
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I'll bet against you.
The ISK equivalent of 200 top tier dropsuit loadouts in the new game, when it happens.
Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7941
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Posted - 2016.04.20 21:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'll bet against you.
The ISK equivalent of 200 top tier dropsuit loadouts in the new game, when it happens.
Deal :)
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:02:00 -
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I'll bet against you.
My contribution to the pot, my name.
My prediction, another demo like with Legion using upscaled assets from DUST again. No clear release date, no publishable roadmap.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:17:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:I'll bet against you.
My contribution to the pot, my name.
My prediction, another demo like with Legion using upscaled assets from DUST again. No clear release date, no publishable roadmap.
All I said was a playable tech demo for attendees of fanfest, not neccesarily a fully fledged out game.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
2143
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Your Boundless Optimism strikes again. Hey, I was right about the FPS remake the whole time wasn't I? Mind you I expect something more along a tech demo than a full fledged game. More to show off the engine than anything.
You were right indeed and that's why seeing this thread made me smile :)
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
13252
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Posted - 2016.04.21 01:29:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:That I would believe that to be true causes me to have to bet against you. Why?
Incarna:
Was supposed to be walking in stations. Ended up crashing the processor while standing in quarters.
DUST 514:
Could have been the premier game on the Playstaion 4. The game that kicked off sales. A sort of "HALO killer" style situation if you will. Nope, that went to Destiny while DUST got unceremoniously dumped out of beta in May which wnded up still being a beta.
WoD:
Lol
With all three of these moments I put faith in CCP's ability to deliver. They could not.
But they have made up for it with Gunjack and Valkyrie. Both of which turned out to be successful if I remember correctly. Of course WoD, Dust, and Incarna will forever remain as stains in CCP's track record but we have seen CCP learn from its bad experience not too recently. However, a part of me still wants to see it to believe when it comes to NotLegion.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2016.04.21 06:49:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I'll bet against you.
My contribution to the pot, my name.
My prediction, another demo like with Legion using upscaled assets from DUST again. No clear release date, no publishable roadmap. All I said was a playable tech demo for attendees of fanfest, not neccesarily a fully fledged out game.
Then allow me to downgrade demo to trailer.
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