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Alena Asakura wrote:

Fox Gaden wrote:

Alena Asakura wrote:

As an EvE player, I expect persistence and continuance, therefore I expected a port of Dust to another platform. I'm not interested in a transfer to another platform unless the new game has as much of what can be ported into it as possible. I only have 20mill SP, so it's not that I want to start "level" with the best - it's because we need the game to continue being as diverse as it is right now.

Even if we started from scratch right now, in 2 to 3 years time, we would have 3 year vets running proto and noobs running starter fits again. Only then would the game get back to being what it is now. Start from scratch and we lose all that diversity.

EvE players would know what I'm getting at and I'm sure CCP would probably lean more in my direction for the same reason. Dust players don't get it because they think that what Dust is now is all it will be. That's completely wrong. Once properly part of the EvE universe, the game would be free to expand infinitely.

If it was a direct port I would want us to keep out stuff. However, it is a new game on a related theme, rather than a direct port. It will probably have reviving clone solders though. So it is reasonable to port the characters if not our stuff.

If you want an RP explanation: the major Factions signed a treaty to ban immortal solders, and they took all our stuff (the bastards!) and we were banished to some sort of data storage. Then something caused them to start up the program again, so some of the Vets got downloaded into new clones, but no one bothered to give us our stuff back.

I would expect more persistence on the PC FPS, as it is more conducive to long term evolution of a game.

Interesting points, but no I don't want a RP or Lore explanation. I don't actually think they could transfer everything anyway, due to the different mechanics of the real EvE universe, which they would have to fit in with if they were to fully integrate Dust with EvE. If they don't do that, then yes, it's a clean slate and anything's possible. We'll just have to wait and see in that case.

My point was I wanted it to be continued and persistent like EvE itself. If it's not that, then I don't know if I'm interested in coming to the new game, particularly if it's not fully integrated into EvE.

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Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 496	Posted - 2016.02.17 11:15:00 - [31] - Quote As an EvE player, I expect persistence and continuance, therefore I expected a port of Dust to another platform. I'm not interested in a transfer to another platform unless the new game has as much of what can be ported into it as possible. I only have 20mill SP, so it's not that I want to start "level" with the best - it's because we need the game to continue being as diverse as it is right now. Even if we started from scratch right now, in 2 to 3 years time, we would have 3 year vets running proto and noobs running starter fits again. Only then would the game get back to being what it is now. Start from scratch and we lose all that diversity. EvE players would know what I'm getting at and I'm sure CCP would probably lean more in my direction for the same reason. Dust players don't get it because they think that what Dust is now is all it will be. That's completely wrong. Once properly part of the EvE universe, the game would be free to expand infinitely.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 11:41:00 - [32] - Quote lol just sneaked into the dust forum to see the progress and finally they are pulling the plug... you are a fool if you think the same "laser focused" terrible devs will do a better job when releasing a PC game. cant wait for the texture override exploits to be able to see through walls and light up cloaked targets, will be fun at PC
RED-EYE -JEDI DUSTING NOW AND AGAIN 226	Posted - 2016.02.17 11:48:00 - [33] - Quote Only keep names that's fair, you paid your money for items in this game not another. you don't transfer all your stuff to the new call of duty game when it comes out every year, I don't care if you say its new eden. that means nothing when you want your IP to be successful on another platform, this is A NEW GAME ON A NEW SYSTEM and having a load of players with 3 years SP compared to all the people who will be playing for the first time on PC, the gap will be uncatchable and you know it. give us some cool items or new BP's for Dust514 2.0 which are unique to us PS3 players. this is a start from scratch like CCP said thanks Forge Gun = Mechanised Hadouken
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 537	Posted - 2016.02.17 12:12:00 - [34] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I'm pretty sure it would be a good idea for the new game not to have any BPOs whatsoever. Well, BPOs in their current form (infinite, zero ISK items) are bad. I agree. But we don't know how crafting will work in DUST (PC). If BPOs are made to work more like they do in Eve* then I would be okay with that. *: Meaning they actually require raw materials and time to create items. It's not "Fit BPO, Receive Item Forever!". #PortDust514
StarVenger Horizons' Edge The-Office 240	Posted - 2016.02.17 14:57:00 - [35] - Quote What people just don't seem to get: ALL YOUR ASSETS ARE OBSOLETE; THEY WILL NOT TRANSLATE TO NEW GAME ALL YOUR SKILL POINTS ARE OBSOLETE; THE SKILL SYSTEM WILL NOT EXIST ......THE DROPSUIT SYSTEM WILL NOT BE THE SAME!!!! ......WEAPONS WILL NOT BE THE SAME!!!! So, what else is there to transfer but our names? AKA Meisterjager Jagermeister L1 FW GallAss to the CORE---Founder of Serpentis UNION of the SNAKE Horizons' Edge FTW
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.17 15:16:00 - [36] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: lol just sneaked into the dust forum to see the progress and finally they are pulling the plug... you are a fool if you think the same "laser focused" terrible devs will do a better job when releasing a PC game. cant wait for the texture override exploits to be able to see through walls and light up cloaked targets, will be fun at PC You realize they've had a PC game, a very successful PC game that's been running for 13 years right? CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 16:03:00 - [37] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Jack McReady wrote: lol just sneaked into the dust forum to see the progress and finally they are pulling the plug... you are a fool if you think the same "laser focused" terrible devs will do a better job when releasing a PC game. cant wait for the texture override exploits to be able to see through walls and light up cloaked targets, will be fun at PC You realize they've had a PC game, a very successful PC game that's been running for 13 years right? different game and most importantly DIFFERENT devs
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.02.17 16:19:00 - [38] - Quote StarVenger wrote: ALL YOUR ASSETS ARE OBSOLETE; THEY WILL NOT TRANSLATE TO NEW GAME ALL YOUR SKILL POINTS ARE OBSOLETE; THE SKILL SYSTEM WILL NOT EXIST ......THE DROPSUIT SYSTEM WILL NOT BE THE SAME!!!! ......WEAPONS WILL NOT BE THE SAME!!!! We don't know which systems are staying and which are going yet so that is a lot of speculation. #PortDust514
ZED Regent Acid Tech 303 758	Posted - 2016.02.17 17:03:00 - [39] - Quote I think names will certainly transfer, 'cuz they want YOU to transfer to the new game... We probaply might get some vanity items that could be based on LR rank... (paying customers) too many goodbye's lately...
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 17:29:00 - [40] - Quote eh me sitting over here with millions of sp and billions of isk. I could care less when it's gone because i can get it back. What really hurts is the name of the weapon i named not transferring over. That was the whole point why i even participated in the event because i knew dust was going to transfer over to PC according to FF14 under the name legion but that was just another lie. "Searching for suitable contracts"

XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.17 17:35:00 - [41] - Quote ZED Regent wrote: I think names will certainly transfer, 'cuz they want YOU to transfer to the new game... We probaply might get some vanity items that could be based on LR rank... (paying customers) I hope that we at least get the option to get the tiered loyalty rewards AND get a new name. Because these Xx's aren't really my cup of tea. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13	Posted - 2016.02.17 17:43:00 - [42] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: That was the whole point why i even participated in the event because I knew dust was going to transfer over to PC according to FF14 under the name legion but that was just another lie. When did CCP promise that DUST was going to transfer to Legion? No seriously. When? The videos I saw of Legion all portrayed it as a project. Something CCP was working on, but nothing concrete had been determined. #PortDust514
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.17 17:44:00 - [43] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: That was the whole point why i even participated in the event because I knew dust was going to transfer over to PC according to FF14 under the name legion but that was just another lie. When did CCP promise that DUST was going to transfer to Legion? No seriously. When? The videos I saw of Legion all portrayed it as a project. Something CCP was working on, but nothing concrete had been determined. This. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys
DDx777 Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2016.02.17 17:52:00 - [44] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I only hope its based off of age of character and not something asinine like Loyalty Rank. On a scale from 1 to Chris Brown, how punchy will you be if CCP announces vet rewards are based on consecutive logins? :3 That's just stoopid and makes no sense. It would make more sense to reward loyalty ranks Loyalty ranks are a scam Depending on the rewards this wouldnt be the end of the world But still....... #INB4Dust514Pay2Win
ZED Regent Acid Tech 303 762	Posted - 2016.02.17 18:23:00 - [45] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I hope that we at least get the option to get the tiered loyalty rewards AND get a new name. Because these Xx's aren't really my cup of tea. Might be... just have to wait and see... We're all just speculating here... too many goodbye's lately...
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2016.02.17 20:00:00 - [46] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Don't transfer anything over to the new Eve: Not Dust514 Please don't transfer the Sp. .....I love the grind No isk......no need to explain No BPO'S Nothing. Not even names. Let it be a brand new experience for everyone. I can't agree with you on names. That would be killing the community. I am fine with starting from scratch on everything else, but reputation should carry over, and reputation is tied to your name. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2016.02.17 20:11:00 - [47] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Also, I'm pretty sure it would be a good idea for the new game not to have any BPOs whatsoever. Or to make BPOs a recipe for crafting, rather than an unlimited supply of the item. In EVE a BPO simply allows you to make the item, but you still need to gather or buy the raw materials. That is a much better way to integrate them into the economy than simply having BPOs be an unlimited supply of an item as they were in DUST. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2016.02.17 20:17:00 - [48] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: OH HALE NO I don't need someone else named lightning delta. I spent weeks trying I get my Quafe set and standard Gallente BPO set (which I'm still missing logistics) Almost 3 years for my sp. Agreed, I'm not starting from scratch. If CCP is gracious enough to transfer a mercs assets and people only want to keep one's name, file a ticket and ask the Powers that be to clean your slate. Leave mine alone. I'm not going to start over, especially without my BPOs. If they transfer everyone's stuff, I will just start a new character to experience starting from scratch in the new game, but then I will go back to Fox Gaden, because that is the name people know me by. I have done that a few times in DUST already. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2016.02.17 20:21:00 - [49] - Quote Trooper X wrote: When the new game is released, the only things i'd like/hope to see transfered is... 1. Name / Corporation Name 2. Skins (as they are purely cosmetic and skins are also in EVE, so why not...) 3. Quafe Weapons (Debateable - they are the basic bob weapons and although at the beginning they might prove to be an advantage. It wouldn't stay that way for long, as new players start to acrue items too) thats it... No SP or ISK, a clean slate for all... From a marketing standpoint, new players seeing the Vets warring the cool old skins will want to buy skins too... Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4	Posted - 2016.02.17 20:22:00 - [50] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Trooper X wrote: When the new game is released, the only things i'd like/hope to see transfered is... 1. Name / Corporation Name 2. Skins (as they are purely cosmetic and skins are also in EVE, so why not...) 3. Quafe Weapons (Debateable - they are the basic bob weapons and although at the beginning they might prove to be an advantage. It wouldn't stay that way for long, as new players start to acrue items too) thats it... No SP or ISK, a clean slate for all... From a marketing standpoint, new players seeing the Vets warring the cool old skins will want to buy skins too... That's true, also, it would allow us to know who else survived Dust 514. CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our quest for all of Molden Heath! #freebenandjerrys

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2016.02.17 20:30:00 - [51] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: As an EvE player, I expect persistence and continuance, therefore I expected a port of Dust to another platform. I'm not interested in a transfer to another platform unless the new game has as much of what can be ported into it as possible. I only have 20mill SP, so it's not that I want to start "level" with the best - it's because we need the game to continue being as diverse as it is right now. Even if we started from scratch right now, in 2 to 3 years time, we would have 3 year vets running proto and noobs running starter fits again. Only then would the game get back to being what it is now. Start from scratch and we lose all that diversity. EvE players would know what I'm getting at and I'm sure CCP would probably lean more in my direction for the same reason. Dust players don't get it because they think that what Dust is now is all it will be. That's completely wrong. Once properly part of the EvE universe, the game would be free to expand infinitely. If it was a direct port I would want us to keep out stuff. However, it is a new game on a related theme, rather than a direct port. It will probably have reviving clone solders though. So it is reasonable to port the characters if not our stuff. If you want an RP explanation: the major Factions signed a treaty to ban immortal solders, and they took all our stuff (the bastards!) and we were banished to some sort of data storage. Then something caused them to start up the program again, so some of the Vets got downloaded into new clones, but no one bothered to give us our stuff back. I would expect more persistence on the PC FPS, as it is more conducive to long term evolution of a game. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Skihids Random Gunz The-Office 3	Posted - 2016.02.17 22:34:00 - [52] - Quote EVE: Phoenix will be the spiritual successor to DUST and hopefully everything DUST was promised to be, so based on the lore and history of EVE we should get to keep our names and our experience. EVE is all about continuity and consequences. If you work hard, you get something for it. CCP encouraged the grind for SP, they sold boosters and ran events. SP is the representation of the hundreds or thousands of hours our clones spent on the battlefield. The new game may not have the same progression system, but there will be some equivalence and our clones should retain that.
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 22:37:00 - [53] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: That was the whole point why i even participated in the event because I knew dust was going to transfer over to PC according to FF14 under the name legion but that was just another lie. When did CCP promise that DUST was going to transfer to Legion? No seriously. When? The videos I saw of Legion all portrayed it as a project. Something CCP was working on, but nothing concrete had been determined. There was pictures of the same AR in one CCP's Z prototypes so do not come at me with this BS. "Searching for suitable contracts"
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 513	Posted - 2016.02.17 23:11:00 - [54] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Also, I'm pretty sure it would be a good idea for the new game not to have any BPOs whatsoever. Or to make BPOs a recipe for crafting, rather than an unlimited supply of the item. In EVE a BPO simply allows you to make the item, but you still need to gather or buy the raw materials. That is a much better way to integrate them into the economy than simply having BPOs be an unlimited supply of an item as they were in DUST. Exactly.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.02.17 23:11:00 - [55] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Don't transfer anything over to the new Eve: Not Dust514 Please don't transfer the Sp. .....I love the grind No isk......no need to explain No BPO'S Nothing. Not even names. Let it be a brand new experience for everyone. I can't agree with you on names. That would be killing the community. I am fine with starting from scratch on everything else, but reputation should carry over, and reputation is tied to your name. Agreed. I don't mind starting over from scratch with no SP, no ISK, and no assets (hell I don't care about my BPOs anymore). But my name needs to live on. The only reason the OP would want my name to not carry over is so that he can claim it himself in the new game and post under my name. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 513	Posted - 2016.02.17 23:15:00 - [56] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: As an EvE player, I expect persistence and continuance, therefore I expected a port of Dust to another platform. I'm not interested in a transfer to another platform unless the new game has as much of what can be ported into it as possible. I only have 20mill SP, so it's not that I want to start "level" with the best - it's because we need the game to continue being as diverse as it is right now. Even if we started from scratch right now, in 2 to 3 years time, we would have 3 year vets running proto and noobs running starter fits again. Only then would the game get back to being what it is now. Start from scratch and we lose all that diversity. EvE players would know what I'm getting at and I'm sure CCP would probably lean more in my direction for the same reason. Dust players don't get it because they think that what Dust is now is all it will be. That's completely wrong. Once properly part of the EvE universe, the game would be free to expand infinitely. If it was a direct port I would want us to keep out stuff. However, it is a new game on a related theme, rather than a direct port. It will probably have reviving clone solders though. So it is reasonable to port the characters if not our stuff. If you want an RP explanation: the major Factions signed a treaty to ban immortal solders, and they took all our stuff (the bastards!) and we were banished to some sort of data storage. Then something caused them to start up the program again, so some of the Vets got downloaded into new clones, but no one bothered to give us our stuff back. I would expect more persistence on the PC FPS, as it is more conducive to long term evolution of a game. Interesting points, but no I don't want a RP or Lore explanation. I don't actually think they could transfer everything anyway, due to the different mechanics of the real EvE universe, which they would have to fit in with if they were to fully integrate Dust with EvE. If they don't do that, then yes, it's a clean slate and anything's possible. We'll just have to wait and see in that case. My point was I wanted it to be continued and persistent like EvE itself. If it's not that, then I don't know if I'm interested in coming to the new game, particularly if it's not fully integrated into EvE.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.02.17 23:28:00 - [57] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: As an EvE player, I expect persistence and continuance, therefore I expected a port of Dust to another platform. I'm not interested in a transfer to another platform unless the new game has as much of what can be ported into it as possible. I only have 20mill SP, so it's not that I want to start "level" with the best - it's because we need the game to continue being as diverse as it is right now. Even if we started from scratch right now, in 2 to 3 years time, we would have 3 year vets running proto and noobs running starter fits again. Only then would the game get back to being what it is now. Start from scratch and we lose all that diversity. EvE players would know what I'm getting at and I'm sure CCP would probably lean more in my direction for the same reason. Dust players don't get it because they think that what Dust is now is all it will be. That's completely wrong. Once properly part of the EvE universe, the game would be free to expand infinitely. If it was a direct port I would want us to keep out stuff. However, it is a new game on a related theme, rather than a direct port. It will probably have reviving clone solders though. So it is reasonable to port the characters if not our stuff. If you want an RP explanation: the major Factions signed a treaty to ban immortal solders, and they took all our stuff (the bastards!) and we were banished to some sort of data storage. Then something caused them to start up the program again, so some of the Vets got downloaded into new clones, but no one bothered to give us our stuff back. I would expect more persistence on the PC FPS, as it is more conducive to long term evolution of a game. Interesting points, but no I don't want a RP or Lore explanation. I don't actually think they could transfer everything anyway, due to the different mechanics of the real EvE universe, which they would have to fit in with if they were to fully integrate Dust with EvE. If they don't do that, then yes, it's a clean slate and anything's possible. We'll just have to wait and see in that case. My point was I wanted it to be continued and persistent like EvE itself. If it's not that, then I don't know if I'm interested in coming to the new game, particularly if it's not fully integrated into EvE. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/factionwarfare/Minmatar_Republic http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Ontorn/stats#fw It seems the consequences of our actions in Dust will live on. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 935	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:03:00 - [58] - Quote Tiered rewards = Length of gratis subscription at outset of new game. Heard it here first... Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 543	Posted - 2016.02.18 03:55:00 - [59] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Dear CCP, OP is in the minority. It seems most players do want some of our legacy to transfer. I think the CPM will confirm that if you ask them. Talk over what makes sense to migrate to the new game and what doesn't. ISK is probably something that you will want to reset. I know so many people who want to keep their names. Discuss it with us and I'm sure we can find a middle ground. Honestly he is in the majority, with the exception of the names issue. I could care less either way on the names, but the rest of our trash needs to stay behind.


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