I had a great time playing the game...money well spent on entertainment.

I had a LOT of fun in that BPO LAV and APEX Centurion Commando.

Again, money well spent on entertainment.

Yes...running around in a murder taxi and perfecting my plasma cannon shot without the worry of losing ISK was a LOT of fun!

Again...money well spent on entertainment.

It's the same reason why people who play other free to play games spend money on the game: they enjoy the game and wanted to support the devs.

Want to know of other ftp games with some "lackluster" updates which people still pour hundreds of dollars into? Warframe, Planetside 2, Maplestory, Runescape, Clash of Clans... (notice I said "Some" implying there were good and bad updates for those games).

If people enjoy a game, why shouldn't they support the dev for cool sh.t?

INB4 "But those games arn't being shut down qq b.tch moan whine." All games have a life span, eventually they willl all die out. It happens. As gamers we must accept this and move on to the next one while remembering the good times we had in the past.

Soooo you think it was wrong for me or anyone to spend money on Dust.

I think it was money well spent on a game for which I have yet to find a decent replacement.


Enjoy your opinion...it's yours!!

Why people ever thought that it was a good idea to invest any money into this game. This game NEVER looked like it was worth investing into. Even with the updates they kept releasing it just never seemed like it was enough progress to me.

I understand that but this game never looked anywhere near it should've been when it was officially released and by some it was easily seen that this game wasn't gonna get anywhere on the ps3. I never saw giving CCP money as supporting the devs, that money could've gone anywhere once CCP got a hold of it. Especially since CCP has multiple products.

Well, they still think they IP is profitable enough to make another game of, so I guess all our love and support worked on that front I guess.

Which is good to me, because I will totally be playing that new game on PC.

Okay let's take a step back and look at this. First of all, Sony has this policy where a game can only remain in open beta for X amount of time on the PlayStation (this was true for 2013, the policy may have changed). The "release" of Dust was never truely a release in the traditional sense as it was still a beta. I, and a few more members of the community (if not the majority) have always believed it was still in beta.

A game development studio that spends the money it received for one game on another is not only common, but common as f.ck. However, some game devlopers do not need a small pitance from one game to devlop another. Does Activision-Blizzard need the money from Diablo 3 to fund WoW, Hearthstone, or Starcraft? During intial stages of development, probally, but now? No.

In the same way EVE Online, the only other game CCP had going at the time, did not need the small amounts of money Dust was generating due to increased amounts of new subs and PLEX purchases on top of previous subs. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of the funding for Valkyrie and Gun Jack was coming from EVE. Legion-Not-Legion is a different beast all together as

Not so sure about the profitable side since I've no idea how much money CCP actually made off of people that bought in game things but the one main reason to always continue the development is the potential of an MMO-FPS connected to a Sandbox MMO like EVE.

Why people ever thought that it was a good idea to invest any money into this game. This game NEVER looked like it was worth investing into. Even with the updates they kept releasing it just never seemed like it was enough progress to me.

So you actually have no idea what you're talking about and didn't even bother to read the one news story in which the CEO said point blank that the title is profitable? And you have no concept that they're clearly making $$ on their other titles and continuing to pour time money and resources into all of it? Which means you're basically talking completely out your arse? Cool story, bruh...

Yes I understand this game was basically a beta even after it's official release and has basically been a beta test for whatever comes next.

Good point there they don't need the tiny bits of $ coming from Dust for any of their other games. Still though like I've said never seemed to be enough progress towards what the idea of the game was suppose to be for me throw my $ at CCP.

invest any money into this game.

You keep mentioning "progress". However you have overlooked a lot of stuff. For one, Dust has made progress since the Rouge Wedding (yes I am resurrecting that ol' demon) with what we assume is a "skeleton crew". Couple their small dev team with the fact that they were using outdated tech AND had it so close to maxing out the potential for the PS3 that they could barely do more without either breaking the game or bricking consoles, similar to how The Last of Us f.cked over a lot of older model PS3s on realease.

They had progressed furthur than most had expected on the PS3.

INB4 MAG did it better. That is a different argument for a different time.

Who said anything about investing? I didn't realize this was a stock market. I just wanted aurum to respec my skill points so they were all over. And a bpo logi suit because the controller broke and I wanted some awesome skins n sh!t.

Plus it would be boring if everyone looked the same.
Why do you think people buy hats/keys/cosmetics for team fortress 2?
Cases and keys amd skins for CS:GO?
Does nothing stat wise,its just a little personal touch.
(Though they have trading with real money so maybe its a bad example)

Off topic: i can't stand the texture of mushrooms. Because of that, it is clearly illogical that anyone else should enjoy them enough to eat, let alone spend money on them.


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Deadcatz has good and obvious point. I never see spending money on a game as "investment." I pay for relative immediate gratification rather than as long term payoffs. It's a video game. I didn't buy bioshock to collect and try to resell over time for gains. I bought it to play and enjoy until I grew tired of it. Bonus that I could in some way show appreciation for attempted efforts in a goal that I genuinely believe in. And get access to proto before I had the SP for it.

investment

Right so a few things I mean by "Progress"

-Being able to move around the station you're in, instead of being stuck in the damn quarters all the time unless you are in a match

-Interactions with EVE players not just being Orbital strikes and chat channels

-Being able to travel throughout New Eden, moving to different stations at a cost of isk or travel to a planets surface

-Boarding Titans (not sure who here wouldn't want to be able to do this)

-Weapon customizations (might be a problem with balancing)

-PVE

Just a few off the top of my head

After fanfest 2014 I wasn't expecting anything else to really be done with this game so ya they did progress further than most expected on the ps3.

1) So you want use to move around and stuff even though they have yet to do that in EVE? Also you want to add unnecessary fluff ontop of a game that was already pushing the limits of the PS3?

2) This was not CCP Shanghais fault but more of a players fault as some EVE players fervently protested having any connection with Dust. More so after FF14.

3) Actually, if you asked a GM nicely back before FF14, they would have moved your station for you. IIRC all of PIE Alliance are in one station.

4) This was something that, again, would have been protested greatly as the idea of boarding titans was to destroy it from the inside. You clearly have no knowledge of how much of a huge investment a titan is. First, it takes a f.ckig long time to train to fly it properly (not talking weeks or months, but years), and getting a hold of a titan is f.cking just as daunting. Some people go as far as purchasing accounts that can fly and have a titan with real life cash. So to go through all that trouble just to have a group of people you have no defense against destroy your investment would **** people off greatly. Sure you can have your own mercs on board, but you are still risking a huge time and money investment.

5) Weapon Customization? Really? Just not going to mention FULL RACIAL PARITY. Which they had a work around for that in place. I am sorry you can't have your 6x scope on your assault rifle, but don't worry we have a gallente plasma thrower... oh wait. It was in talks, mainly full racial parity, which is a higher priority in most peoples opinion. And as I said, Rattati had a work around by reskinning and adding different attributes to the reskinned models. F.ck weapon customization, you can have that after I get my Plasma Thrower or Laser Lance.

6) Only thing I agree with you, there needed to be PvE. However, again, the PS3 was already at it's limits.

Edit: To add more to point 5, keep in mind we had a decent amount of weapons and variants for said weapons. More than what most modern FPSs can say these day.

4) I think boarding and fighting on an NPC Titan would be fine. Completely agree that if it centered on an actual player Titan, it would be borked as hell and create pandemonium. But let's say you're running Minmatar FW and besides a Skirmish, Dom, etc. mode; there's also a couple of maps that are boarding an Amarr Super or Titan to take it over before it DD's a Minnie Carrier. Or something like that. There's interesting gameplay potential here that doesn't put a 100bil ISK player asset on the line.

Other than that, spot on.

So in review, the OP doesn't understand why other people spent money on a game the OP doesn't like.

Wherever you go, there you are.

1) So you want use to move around and stuff even though they have yet to do that in EVE? Also you want to add unnecessary fluff ontop of a game that was already pushing the limits of the PS3?

2) This was not CCP Shanghais fault but more of a players fault as some EVE players fervently protested having any connection with Dust. More so after FF14.

3) Actually, if you asked a GM nicely back before FF14, they would have moved your station for you. IIRC all of PIE Alliance are in one station.

4) This was something that, again, would have been protested greatly as the idea of boarding titans was to destroy it from the inside. You clearly have no knowledge of how much of a huge investment a titan is. First, it takes a f.ckig long time to train to fly it properly (not talking weeks or months, but years), and getting a hold of a titan is f.cking just as daunting. Some people go as far as purchasing accounts that can fly and have a titan with real life cash. So to go through all that trouble just to have a group of people you have no defense against destroy your investment would **** people off greatly. Sure you can have your own mercs on board, but you are still risking a huge time and money investment.

5) Weapon Customization? Really? Just not going to mention FULL RACIAL PARITY. Which they had a work around for that in place. I am sorry you can't have your 6x scope on your assault rifle, but don't worry we have a gallente plasma thrower... oh wait. It was in talks, mainly full racial parity, which is a higher priority in most peoples opinion. And as I said, Rattati had a work around by reskinning and adding different attributes to the reskinned models. F.ck weapon customization, you can have that after I get my Plasma Thrower or Laser Lance.

6) Only thing I agree with you, there needed to be PvE. However, again, the PS3 was already at it's limits.

Edit: To add more to point 5, keep in mind we had a decent amount of weapons and variants for said weapons. More than what most modern FPSs can say these day.

Not so sure about the profitable side since I've no idea how much money CCP actually made off of people that bought in game things but the one main reason to always continue the development is the potential of an MMO-FPS connected to a Sandbox MMO like EVE.

... because I will totally be playing that new game on PC.

Businesses don't start projects that don't give them some sort of benefit.

And they won't sink time and development into something that won't make some kind of financial return.

The money put into Dust showed them that they have a potential source of income when they make this game, in addition to the new players they will grab on PC.

Why do you think they're telling us Dust players will get some benefits?

They want the people who put money into this game to come over to PC and continue to give them money.

So in review, the OP doesn't understand why other people spent money on a game the OP doesn't like.

Wherever you go, there you are.

Hm. I have a feeling OP is referring to those who put money in with the specific idea of long-term investment, and not so much how many have replied so far in the thread in spending money---as short-term entertainment and/or as a way to give appreciation for whatever.

In that frame of reference, I too wonder wtf those who "invested" money with the idea of long term goals (2, 5, 10 years into the future) would do so. There are a lot of posts of players feeling ripped off and taken advantage of. To me and the way I see things, I paid for a quick boost in SP, access to AUR proto, or novelty fun items and BPOs. All of which, for me at least, paid-off the moment I got that access. I know some (many?) do not see it that way. I'm honestly curious how else one could rationally see it? I mean, being a video game.

If that is the OPs point---to draw a line between people paying for entertainment only (movies, going out to eat, concerts, etc.) and people expecting returns down-the-road on an investment---then I kind of agree. That is weird to me.

OP: correct me if I'm assuming too much?

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No clue where the thread is now. Been distracted over here. I hope this is still relevant!

You pretty much are correct

I spent < 300USD on this game, played it for over 3 years off and on, so roughly $8 per month. I just spent $120 on battlefront and the division in the last 3 months? I played battlefront for like 2-3 weeks and went back to ESO, so like 20 bucks a week is what I have payed for SWBF. The division is not even out yet, but I feel like I will get my money's worth there.

I have also taken my misses to the movies in the last few months. 30 bucks for a couple hours of enjoyment..

My point is, you are likely going to pay for entertainment anyways, (unless you are a broke-ass neckbeard living in your mom's basement,) why is it so tough to throw a few dollars a month at a game you KNOW you are enjoying..

Again $$$ was never required to have fun in this game, spending real currency so you don't have to spend any isk on restocking on certain things is just another way of avoiding losing any isk in the end.

I spent < 300USD on this game, played it for over 3 years off and on, so roughly $8 per month. I just spent $120 on battlefront and the division in the last 3 months? I played battlefront for like 2-3 weeks and went back to ESO, so like 20 bucks a week is what I have payed for SWBF. The division is not even out yet, but I feel like I will get my money's worth there.

I have also taken my misses to the movies in the last few months. 30 bucks for a couple hours of enjoyment..

My point is, you are likely going to pay for entertainment anyways, (unless you are a broke-ass neckbeard living in your mom's basement,) why is it so tough to throw a few dollars a month at a game you KNOW you are enjoying..

Edit after seeing above replies:

Who TF *invests* in a video game? Where did you even get that idea? No one invests in a movie? No one invests in a day at the amusement park? Why would anyone invest in a video game? If this is really where OP was going, stupid thread is stupid thread..

Thankfully for planetside 2 which is fun,but can never fill the hole in my heart from dust is also f2p and I'm already hitting battlerank 40+ and not a single dollar spent on memberships or boosters. All legit certs earned fighting as a combat medic or the occasional tank infantry farming spree. now on master directives for assult rifles and medic I'm on the verge of unlocking some sweet customized items. And not a cent ever spent. I might drop a dollar for this one helmet I really want though.

wow how long you been playing planetside 2?