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Draxus Prime
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Posted - 2016.02.08 01:07:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:knight guard fury wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:knight guard fury wrote:would this be a good computer for an fps like dust on PC?
ASUS notebook X555LA
system:
Processor: Intel Core i3-5005U CPU @ 2.000GHz
Installed memory(RAM): 6.00 GB
system type: 64-bit OS, 64x-based processor
graphics card: Intel HD Graphics 5500
Need dedicated graphics what would you recommend? i can actually play a wide variety of games, although games like dirty bomb, its a bit laggy on the frames for some reason, but CS:GO to LOL to rocket leaugue it does fine on. budget? and do u want a laptop or desktop? as for budget, well im still in high school and track takes up most of my days and hours of the week, but i do plan on eventually getting a job somehow now or after i graduate. for now i want a laptop though until i move out at least. but i can always find a way to make money.
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i7559-763BLK-Full-HD-GeForce/dp/B015PYYDMQ something like that wouldn't be bad at all
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Scalesdini
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:20:00 -
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Ugh, are you people kidding? Who brought up a 9590? Intel "mostly" beats the 9590? You're seriously recommending a 4790k for a $1,500 PC?! WHY?
Do not buy an AMD FX processor. They are 5 years old at this point and a Skylake i3-6100 will obliterate even the expensive, power wasting 9590 (spoiler: it's an overclocked 8350, you can save yourself $100 by buying an 8350 and overclocking it yourself) in essentially every gaming situation.
If you buy an i3 skylake, buy fast ram. It helps. DDR4-2666 or higher.
Don't buy less than 8gb of RAM. For any of these builds. Don't buy a single stick of ram, buy a kit of 2 sticks. All RAM today is designed to run in dual channel mode (or quad channel, for the X99 processors, meaning 4 sticks) and you're going to gimp your PC if you buy a single stick. 8gb of ram costs roughly the same whether it's 1 8gb stick or 2 4gb sticks.
If you're getting an i7, GET X99, NOT Z170. The Skylake i7-6700k is a 4 core 8 thread CPU and currently costs $400 everywhere but microcenter. The i7-5820k is a 6 core 12 thread CPU that, clock for clock, is within 3% of Skylake's single thread performance. The 5820k is cheaper than the 6700k everywhere, even microcenter (where it is currently $320). The difference here is the 5820k smashes the 6700k in multithreaded workloads. PC games are moving towards better multithreaded support in part because the PS4/Xbone are crappy 8 core AMD APU's and because clock speeds have been stagnant for years. 5820k is a much better investment, period.
If you spend on a 5820k, keep in mind they DO NOT have integrated graphics at all. You WILL have to have a graphics card just to get it to display. For a gaming PC, this is a non-issue.
Lastly, if you are buying a PC specifically for PC-Dust (either solely or mostly for), you should WAIT to buy your graphics cards. New offerings from AMD and nVidia are ~6 months out, even if you don't buy one of the new cards, the current crop will be on sale frequently for 1-3 months before the new stuff is released. Broadwell-E CPU's will also be out this year, probably around the same time frame as the new graphics cards, meaning Haswell-E's (the 5820k and its more expensive siblings) will likely be discounted shortly before those arrive as well, though this doesn't matter as much if you have a microcenter near you.
If anyone is confused on any of that or has any specific questions they want to ask me, I'll try and keep an eye on the thread and answer any ?'s. I'm also in the #Dust514 IRC channel 24/7 (not always at keyboard) so feel free to come in there and ask as well. CatMerc is there as well and one or the other of us can help you. Also, his thread on PC's is pretty good: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3099750#post3099750 |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:34:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:Ugh, are you people kidding? Who brought up a 9590? Intel "mostly" beats the 9590? You're seriously recommending a 4790k for a $1,500 PC?! WHY?
Do not buy an AMD FX processor. They are 5 years old at this point and a Skylake i3-6100 will obliterate even the expensive, power wasting 9590 (spoiler: it's an overclocked 8350, you can save yourself $100 by buying an 8350 and overclocking it yourself) in essentially every gaming situation.
If you buy an i3 skylake, buy fast ram. It helps. DDR4-2666 or higher.
While I 100% agree that 9590 is a complete waste, the 8350 and 6300 are still excellent chips for their price. i3's only beat them in single threaded workloads, which quite honestly are becoming a rarity in games today. The AMD chips will also give you a better overall system experience. Everything will be snappier than the i3.
Scalesdini wrote:Don't buy less than 8gb of RAM. For any of these builds. Don't buy a single stick of ram, buy a kit of 2 sticks. All RAM today is designed to run in dual channel mode (or quad channel, for the X99 processors, meaning 4 sticks) and you're going to gimp your PC if you buy a single stick. 8gb of ram costs roughly the same whether it's 1 8gb stick or 2 4gb sticks.
I agree, don't buy less than 8 gigs of RAM these days. However the single channel vs dual channel thing has next to no real world performance benefits, only in benchmarks. It's better in my opinion to buy a single stick, giving you better upgrade ability.
Scalesdini wrote: If you're getting an i7, GET X99, NOT Z170. The Skylake i7-6700k is a 4 core 8 thread CPU and currently costs $400 everywhere but microcenter. The i7-5820k is a 6 core 12 thread CPU that, clock for clock, is within 3% of Skylake's single thread performance. The 5820k is cheaper than the 6700k everywhere, even microcenter (where it is currently $320). The difference here is the 5820k smashes the 6700k in multithreaded workloads. PC games are moving towards better multithreaded support in part because the PS4/Xbone are crappy 8 core AMD APU's and because clock speeds have been stagnant for years. 5820k is a much better investment, period.
Agree.
If you spend on a 5820k, keep in mind they DO NOT have integrated graphics at all. You WILL have to have a graphics card just to get it to display. For a gaming PC, this is a non-issue.
Scalesdini wrote: Lastly, if you are buying a PC specifically for PC-Dust (either solely or mostly for), you should WAIT to buy your graphics cards. New offerings from AMD and nVidia are ~6 months out, even if you don't buy one of the new cards, the current crop will be on sale frequently for 1-3 months before the new stuff is released. Broadwell-E CPU's will also be out this year, probably around the same time frame as the new graphics cards, meaning Haswell-E's (the 5820k and its more expensive siblings) will likely be discounted shortly before those arrive as well, though this doesn't matter as much if you have a microcenter near you.
Agree.
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:37:00 -
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PLEASE avoid this thread, it's full of misinformation.
Look here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3099750#post3099750
I've had multiple experienced PC builders, not including myself, look over it to make sure everything I say and all of my builds are up to snuff. No offense, but I want to make sure everyone gets the absolute best experience they can get for their money.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:16:00 -
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byte modal wrote:To the 1999 comment: you're fine. Same logic and general layout but with different cable standards and access points. It may give you pause for a minute or two, but you'll find the changes are cleaner and easier. Oh. And for some reason, fashion is now a thing. Lights, form design, plastic windows,....blah blah. That might **** you off  but that's probably the worst of the changes. IMHO of course. To the save and wait: tech changes FAST. If you're only building for the DUST replacement, wait till you know sys requirements. If it's 2 years out, current components will be older, cheaper, and replaceable in 2 years.
You don't like shiny LED lit PC's with a side window to show off the glorious cable management and colors?
Peasant.
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:byte modal wrote:To the 1999 comment: you're fine. Same logic and general layout but with different cable standards and access points. It may give you pause for a minute or two, but you'll find the changes are cleaner and easier. Oh. And for some reason, fashion is now a thing. Lights, form design, plastic windows,....blah blah. That might **** you off but that's probably the worst of the changes. IMHO of course. To the save and wait: tech changes FAST. If you're only building for the DUST replacement, wait till you know sys requirements. If it's 2 years out, current components will be older, cheaper, and replaceable in 2 years. You don't like shiny LED lit PC's with a side window to show off the glorious cable management and colors? Peasant.
Hell no. I work on my machine. I don't need Vin Diesel or the ghost of Paul Walker drifting out of my tower. I'll leave that sh!t to the kids hanging out with their ricers Friday nights in front of the Sam's Club parking lot.
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Draxus Prime
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:PLEASE avoid this thread, it's full of misinformation. Look here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3099750#post3099750I've had multiple experienced PC builders, not including myself, look over it to make sure everything I say and all of my builds are up to snuff. No offense, but I want to make sure everyone gets the absolute best experience they can get for their money.
it isnt misinformation it's my opinion on good pcs for the budget and they are good
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:15:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Cat Merc wrote:PLEASE avoid this thread, it's full of misinformation. Look here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3099750#post3099750I've had multiple experienced PC builders, not including myself, look over it to make sure everything I say and all of my builds are up to snuff. No offense, but I want to make sure everyone gets the absolute best experience they can get for their money. it isnt misinformation it's my opinion on good pcs for the budget and they are good
By your, lone, opinion.
My opinion is based upon hundreds of hours of research since I was 8 years old, along with a sanity check with multiple experienced PC builders.
Your builds are OK, my real issue is all the comments below it. They're garbage.
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Posted - 2016.02.08 22:20:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Living Rock 523 wrote:With New Dust so far away, would it be advisable to buy a PC piece by piece? Spread out the price of a high end PC over a long period of time? No, hold onto the money... Everything drops in price.
I was fuming for a while at how now I could get better PC parts for less money vs when I bought the parts.
8GB EVGA DDR4 2400 RAM for less than $50 at Microcenter. I bought 8GB of DDR3 1600 for more than that.
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Draxus Prime
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Posted - 2016.02.09 00:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:Cat Merc wrote:PLEASE avoid this thread, it's full of misinformation. Look here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3099750#post3099750I've had multiple experienced PC builders, not including myself, look over it to make sure everything I say and all of my builds are up to snuff. No offense, but I want to make sure everyone gets the absolute best experience they can get for their money. it isnt misinformation it's my opinion on good pcs for the budget and they are good By your, lone, opinion. My opinion is based upon hundreds of hours of research since I was 8 years old, along with a sanity check with multiple experienced PC builders. Your builds are OK, my real issue is all the comments below it. They're garbage.
I've been building PCs all my life and I had all these builds looked over by r/buildapc's irc. That's hundreds of others... It's not misinformation at all
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:Hey everyone, we had some great news lately (for me anyway) that CCP are making a new fps on PC and a lot of people are moving to the Master Race. Here are some PC part lists I made for 3 budgets to help you make the move (yes building yourself isn't to hard and will save you A TON). Background: I only owned a PS3 for MAG and Dust, first and foremost I am a member of the master race. I've been building PC's for a while now (hobby), mostly for friends who wanted to make the move and I've done almost 20 builds so far. I also keep up to date with latest hardware trends and such Disclaimer: We of course don't know the system requirement's of this new game yet but I'm basing this off other UE4 games so its safe to assume this new game will run similarly Also Prices in USD cause most of us are american (I'm Canadian though, I'm just being nice eh) So lets get started Build One Comes out to $514 dollars (heh). For the budget its a nice PC with a i3 processor which isn't the best but for the budget meh and a R9 380 GPU, a very nice card that I have in my own rig. Build 2 Comes out to about $900, beast of a PC, will max out games no problem. Only thing is whether you want a R9 390 or a 970. Performance wise they're near identical unless you move to 1440p and 4k where the 390s 8gb of vram get a edge over the 970s 4gb. Some people like nvidia better and like features such as shadowplay and physx so up to you. Build 3 For the rich players amongst us you can get a i7 4790k with a sick cooler for ocing and a 980ti when 100fps just isn't enough (or 1440p) If you liked this and have any questions ask and If you want I can do another one with peripherals in the budget You messed up on build 3. This board will do some serious OCing on this ram. Get with the program man. DDR4 is the only good reason to go with intel right now as otherwise you are better of with the new fx-9590. EDIT: Here is a proper "rich player" build. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mbgkFTDropping the second 980 ti is totally feasible but you aren't master race if you don't even have SLI.
Most companies won't even touch the 9590 due to its crazy high tdp. (125 instead of 91). I have even seen them blow out capacitors on motherboards. Bang for buck comparison the i7 is just flat out better and does not require water cooling. |
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Posted - 2016.02.09 05:48:00 -
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Do you guys think this build will handle it?
CPU: I7 6700k
GPU: MSI GTX 980 TI
MB: MSI Z170A Gaming M5
PS: EVGA 850 G2
Ram: 16 GB corsair LPX DDR4
Fan: Noctua NH D 15
Case: Corsair 450 D
And just for fun:
Monitor: Acer XB270HU
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Vengeance
Mouse: Logitech G502
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Posted - 2016.02.09 07:41:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Green Living wrote:I haven't messed with a PC since 1999. What's the difficulty level on building PC's these days? Is experience required? More straight forward than ever I would say. If you could build them in 99 then you can build them now. A little refresher video online probably wouldn't hurt though if you are concerned.
Can confirm, for what it is worth.
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