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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:34:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:Ugh, are you people kidding? Who brought up a 9590? Intel "mostly" beats the 9590? You're seriously recommending a 4790k for a $1,500 PC?! WHY?
Do not buy an AMD FX processor. They are 5 years old at this point and a Skylake i3-6100 will obliterate even the expensive, power wasting 9590 (spoiler: it's an overclocked 8350, you can save yourself $100 by buying an 8350 and overclocking it yourself) in essentially every gaming situation.
If you buy an i3 skylake, buy fast ram. It helps. DDR4-2666 or higher. While I 100% agree that 9590 is a complete waste, the 8350 and 6300 are still excellent chips for their price. i3's only beat them in single threaded workloads, which quite honestly are becoming a rarity in games today. The AMD chips will also give you a better overall system experience. Everything will be snappier than the i3.
Scalesdini wrote:Don't buy less than 8gb of RAM. For any of these builds. Don't buy a single stick of ram, buy a kit of 2 sticks. All RAM today is designed to run in dual channel mode (or quad channel, for the X99 processors, meaning 4 sticks) and you're going to gimp your PC if you buy a single stick. 8gb of ram costs roughly the same whether it's 1 8gb stick or 2 4gb sticks. I agree, don't buy less than 8 gigs of RAM these days. However the single channel vs dual channel thing has next to no real world performance benefits, only in benchmarks. It's better in my opinion to buy a single stick, giving you better upgrade ability.
Scalesdini wrote: If you're getting an i7, GET X99, NOT Z170. The Skylake i7-6700k is a 4 core 8 thread CPU and currently costs $400 everywhere but microcenter. The i7-5820k is a 6 core 12 thread CPU that, clock for clock, is within 3% of Skylake's single thread performance. The 5820k is cheaper than the 6700k everywhere, even microcenter (where it is currently $320). The difference here is the 5820k smashes the 6700k in multithreaded workloads. PC games are moving towards better multithreaded support in part because the PS4/Xbone are crappy 8 core AMD APU's and because clock speeds have been stagnant for years. 5820k is a much better investment, period. Agree.
If you spend on a 5820k, keep in mind they DO NOT have integrated graphics at all. You WILL have to have a graphics card just to get it to display. For a gaming PC, this is a non-issue.
Scalesdini wrote: Lastly, if you are buying a PC specifically for PC-Dust (either solely or mostly for), you should WAIT to buy your graphics cards. New offerings from AMD and nVidia are ~6 months out, even if you don't buy one of the new cards, the current crop will be on sale frequently for 1-3 months before the new stuff is released. Broadwell-E CPU's will also be out this year, probably around the same time frame as the new graphics cards, meaning Haswell-E's (the 5820k and its more expensive siblings) will likely be discounted shortly before those arrive as well, though this doesn't matter as much if you have a microcenter near you. Agree.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:37:00 -
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PLEASE avoid this thread, it's full of misinformation.
Look here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3099750#post3099750 I've had multiple experienced PC builders, not including myself, look over it to make sure everything I say and all of my builds are up to snuff. No offense, but I want to make sure everyone gets the absolute best experience they can get for their money.
Darth-Carbonite GIO
> "When Rattati is involved, my penis is the only thing that matters."
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:16:00 -
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byte modal wrote:To the 1999 comment: you're fine. Same logic and general layout but with different cable standards and access points. It may give you pause for a minute or two, but you'll find the changes are cleaner and easier. Oh. And for some reason, fashion is now a thing. Lights, form design, plastic windows,....blah blah. That might **** you off but that's probably the worst of the changes. IMHO of course. To the save and wait: tech changes FAST. If you're only building for the DUST replacement, wait till you know sys requirements. If it's 2 years out, current components will be older, cheaper, and replaceable in 2 years. You don't like shiny LED lit PC's with a side window to show off the glorious cable management and colors?
Peasant.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:15:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Cat Merc wrote:PLEASE avoid this thread, it's full of misinformation. Look here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3099750#post3099750I've had multiple experienced PC builders, not including myself, look over it to make sure everything I say and all of my builds are up to snuff. No offense, but I want to make sure everyone gets the absolute best experience they can get for their money. it isnt misinformation it's my opinion on good pcs for the budget and they are good By your, lone, opinion.
My opinion is based upon hundreds of hours of research since I was 8 years old, along with a sanity check with multiple experienced PC builders. Your builds are OK, my real issue is all the comments below it. They're garbage.
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