DUST Search - So, How Much time will it take? [the new Eve FPS]

BARAGAMOS wrote:

xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:

Llamastar wrote:

xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:

Llamastar wrote:

You guys really don't have any clue what EVE is like, do you? Lol @ this entire thread.

Is Eve an FPS? O.O At best, you don't have any clue of what an FPS on PC is Roll

EVE has the exact same opportunities for hacks and cheats as any other PC game, and it's been at best a dull background murmur for 10 years. The most recent I can remember is the a drone stacking buff glitch ... oh, year ago or more? It was quickly straightened out and was never that much of an issue.

PS3 is literally the only reason CCP hasn't put a lid on what's been going on in DUST. It's going to be significantly smoother on the new platform.

I clearly agree on Dust being smoother (much smoother) on PC. But in an FPS is much harder to track cheaters: I'm not talking about obious cheats like infinite isks or infinite health, but "wisely" used cheats.

If you have an aimbot, and you start killing hundreds of people miles away, it would be obvious and you would be banned sooner or later, but if you use it "wisely", in standard situations, it would be much less obvious, but it would still ruin the experience for all other players.

Considering the very high competition level in Eve, people will always abuse this kind of things to get an advantage.

You have exactly ZERO idea what you are talking about. It is a simple matter to detect cheating on any tier one FPS on a PC. Ill let you console lovers know a little secret....its easier to cheat on a console. There are a myriad of already existing cheats for console games not the least of which is the ever-present lag switching we see now. You DO NOT SEE THOSE ON COD OR DESTINY for the PC. It checks your software are boot, at lobby, at load, and randomly during play. If you don't match...bingo. You get kicked, and a free reinstall. PC is not plagued by cheaters, but this game currently is.

Sorry you are butt hurt about it no longer being a console shooter , but in truth you're not really the audience they are looking for anyway. They want an EVE like experience with EVE like revenue streams. Console players don't provide that, and the consoles don't provide the longevity needed to have a "forever" game like EVE in the form of a FPS.

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xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 16:56:00 - [1] - Quote No, I'm not asking how much time will it take to make the new game. I was wondering, how much time will it take to see the first hacks that would catastrophically destroy the whole experience take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2016.02.03 16:59:00 - [2] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: No, I'm not asking how much time will it take to make the new game. I was wondering, how much time will it take to see the first hacks that would catastrophically destroy the whole experience Ccp thought working with outdated hardware was rough. Just wait. If you think there won't be some salty folks waiting for it to release, you already failed. I predict this will be a catastrophe. The PR for dust is already bad enough. Now this. "And god dmn it I will be an artichoke, get off my stalk." ~Dust Fiend~ Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it*~
CrotchGrab 360 TasteTheTamsen 2	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:01:00 - [3] - Quote I didn't think about that, PC cheaters... we will become one with the lowest form of human being YOUTUBE
The Attorney General 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:04:00 - [4] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: No, I'm not asking how much time will it take to make the new game. I was wondering, how much time will it take to see the first hacks that would catastrophically destroy the whole experience If they have client side hit detection, within 20 hours, if server side, maybe a week. Should be a fantastic shitshow. Either they divorce it from New Eden at the start to keep it safe and destroy the biggest selling point, or they run the risk of damage to the new Eden economy through some broken ass mechanic they didn't bother to check for. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:04:00 - [5] - Quote Seriously tho, if you play any free to play FPS on Steam (beside CS I guess...) is a hackfest. Imagine what people could do if the new Eve FPS could actually give some advantage in Eve. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:30:00 - [6] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Seriously tho, if you play any free to play FPS on Steam (beside CS I guess...) is a hackfest. Imagine what people could do if the new Eve FPS could actually give some advantage in Eve. Considering it took The Division beta 4 hours to be hacked after it opened, this could be just the absolute worst. The only "faith" i have in CCPs asset protection department is their love of character and ip bans + in-game reclaiming of things when people screw with the economy. Unlikable Suryas? Most likely. Unlimited access to iskies and market items? Good luck ever playing again. My Rattati, my Ratatti, why have you abandoned me?
Llamastar Kylo's Fist 93	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:35:00 - [7] - Quote You guys really don't have any clue what EVE is like, do you? Lol @ this entire thread.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:36:00 - [8] - Quote Llamastar wrote: You guys really don't have any clue what EVE is like, do you? Lol @ this entire thread. Is Eve an FPS? O.O At best, you don't have any clue of what an FPS on PC is take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Llamastar Kylo's Fist 95	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:43:00 - [9] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Llamastar wrote: You guys really don't have any clue what EVE is like, do you? Lol @ this entire thread. Is Eve an FPS? O.O At best, you don't have any clue of what an FPS on PC is EVE has the exact same opportunities for hacks and cheats as any other PC game, and it's been at best a dull background murmur for 10 years. The most recent I can remember is the a drone stacking buff glitch ... oh, year ago or more? It was quickly straightened out and was never that much of an issue. PS3 is literally the only reason CCP hasn't put a lid on what's been going on in DUST. It's going to be significantly smoother on the new platform.
Soto Gallente 684	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:44:00 - [10] - Quote Llamastar wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Llamastar wrote: You guys really don't have any clue what EVE is like, do you? Lol @ this entire thread. Is Eve an FPS? O.O At best, you don't have any clue of what an FPS on PC is EVE has the exact same opportunities for hacks and cheats as any other PC game, and it's been at best a dull background murmur for 10 years. The most recent I can remember is the a drone stacking buff glitch ... oh, year ago or more? It was quickly straightened out and was never that much of an issue. PS3 is literally the only reason CCP hasn't put a lid on what's been going on in DUST. It's going to be significantly smoother on the new platform. um, you might want to look in the announcements and events subforum. Ex-news reporter for The Scope

xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:48:00 - [11] - Quote Llamastar wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Llamastar wrote: You guys really don't have any clue what EVE is like, do you? Lol @ this entire thread. Is Eve an FPS? O.O At best, you don't have any clue of what an FPS on PC is EVE has the exact same opportunities for hacks and cheats as any other PC game, and it's been at best a dull background murmur for 10 years. The most recent I can remember is the a drone stacking buff glitch ... oh, year ago or more? It was quickly straightened out and was never that much of an issue. PS3 is literally the only reason CCP hasn't put a lid on what's been going on in DUST. It's going to be significantly smoother on the new platform. I clearly agree on Dust being smoother (much smoother) on PC. But in an FPS is much harder to hack cheaters: I'm not talking about obious cheats like infinite isks or infinite health, but "wisely" used cheats. If you have an aimbot, and you start killing hundreds of people miles away, it would be obvious and you would be banned sooner or later, but if you use it "wisely", in standard situations, it would be much less obvious, but it would still ruin the experience for all other players. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
hillbilly malato Wolf Pack Special Forces Shadow of Dust 10	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:51:00 - [12] - Quote please reply to my forums post with something meaningful to save this game. gen desc the end.
DRAKEST HOUR BAD ASTRONAUTS 88	Posted - 2016.02.03 17:59:00 - [13] - Quote hillbilly malato wrote: please reply to my forums post with something meaningful to save this game. gen desc the end. Save this game LOLOLOL! You sir, are a fool. Build a pc or just deal with the ever present life span of a console. Why would you become emotionally invested in a free game on a machine that will die and get replaced? Welcome back to reality.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 18:05:00 - [14] - Quote hillbilly malato wrote: please reply to my forums post with something meaningful to save this game. gen desc the end. I'm pretty sure almost anyone here wanted the game to move, the problem was where. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 478	Posted - 2016.02.03 18:06:00 - [15] - Quote Devadander wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: No, I'm not asking how much time will it take to make the new game. I was wondering, how much time will it take to see the first hacks that would catastrophically destroy the whole experience Ccp thought working with outdated hardware was rough. Just wait. If you think there won't be some salty folks waiting for it to release, you already failed. I predict this will be a catastrophe. The PR for dust is already bad enough. Now this. The lack of understanding is unreal...... This is the best thing that could have happened to happen to DUST, and EVE has ZERO hack issues. The alternative was GONE FOREVER.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 478	Posted - 2016.02.03 18:15:00 - [16] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Llamastar wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Llamastar wrote: You guys really don't have any clue what EVE is like, do you? Lol @ this entire thread. Is Eve an FPS? O.O At best, you don't have any clue of what an FPS on PC is EVE has the exact same opportunities for hacks and cheats as any other PC game, and it's been at best a dull background murmur for 10 years. The most recent I can remember is the a drone stacking buff glitch ... oh, year ago or more? It was quickly straightened out and was never that much of an issue. PS3 is literally the only reason CCP hasn't put a lid on what's been going on in DUST. It's going to be significantly smoother on the new platform. I clearly agree on Dust being smoother (much smoother) on PC. But in an FPS is much harder to track cheaters: I'm not talking about obious cheats like infinite isks or infinite health, but "wisely" used cheats. If you have an aimbot, and you start killing hundreds of people miles away, it would be obvious and you would be banned sooner or later, but if you use it "wisely", in standard situations, it would be much less obvious, but it would still ruin the experience for all other players. Considering the very high competition level in Eve, people will always abuse this kind of things to get an advantage. You have exactly ZERO idea what you are talking about. It is a simple matter to detect cheating on any tier one FPS on a PC. Ill let you console lovers know a little secret....its easier to cheat on a console. There are a myriad of already existing cheats for console games not the least of which is the ever-present lag switching we see now. You DO NOT SEE THOSE ON COD OR DESTINY for the PC. It checks your software are boot, at lobby, at load, and randomly during play. If you don't match...bingo. You get kicked, and a free reinstall. PC is not plagued by cheaters, but this game currently is. Sorry you are butt hurt about it no longer being a console shooter , but in truth you're not really the audience they are looking for anyway. They want an EVE like experience with EVE like revenue streams. Console players don't provide that, and the consoles don't provide the longevity needed to have a "forever" game like EVE in the form of a FPS.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 18:18:00 - [17] - Quote BARAGAMOS wrote: Devadander wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: No, I'm not asking how much time will it take to make the new game. I was wondering, how much time will it take to see the first hacks that would catastrophically destroy the whole experience Ccp thought working with outdated hardware was rough. Just wait. If you think there won't be some salty folks waiting for it to release, you already failed. I predict this will be a catastrophe. The PR for dust is already bad enough. Now this. The lack of understanding is unreal...... This is the best thing that could have happened to happen to DUST, and EVE has ZERO hack issues. The alternative was GONE FOREVER. I'll talk about my soon to be personal experience with the new eve fps. I'll play it, I already have a very good PC built for other purposes, but I kept in mind gaming so, yeah, I can play almost anything at ultra without moving from 60 fps. That said, as I mentioned before, Eve is not an FPS. A mining bot in eve is the equivalent of an aimbot in an FPS. You can abuse it or you can use it wisely and never get caught. On the other hand, we had the other choice: PS4. Now, it has clear hardware limitation (that are anyway enough to make a game like planetside 2 run stable at the equivalent of high settings on PC), but still it is impossible to cheat. Impossible means that you can't touch anything on that game, and if there's a bug, it should be fairly easy to track it and fix it because the hardware is the same for any given player. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.03 18:26:00 - [18] - Quote BARAGAMOS wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Llamastar wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Llamastar wrote: You guys really don't have any clue what EVE is like, do you? Lol @ this entire thread. Is Eve an FPS? O.O At best, you don't have any clue of what an FPS on PC is EVE has the exact same opportunities for hacks and cheats as any other PC game, and it's been at best a dull background murmur for 10 years. The most recent I can remember is the a drone stacking buff glitch ... oh, year ago or more? It was quickly straightened out and was never that much of an issue. PS3 is literally the only reason CCP hasn't put a lid on what's been going on in DUST. It's going to be significantly smoother on the new platform. I clearly agree on Dust being smoother (much smoother) on PC. But in an FPS is much harder to track cheaters: I'm not talking about obious cheats like infinite isks or infinite health, but "wisely" used cheats. If you have an aimbot, and you start killing hundreds of people miles away, it would be obvious and you would be banned sooner or later, but if you use it "wisely", in standard situations, it would be much less obvious, but it would still ruin the experience for all other players. Considering the very high competition level in Eve, people will always abuse this kind of things to get an advantage. You have exactly ZERO idea what you are talking about. It is a simple matter to detect cheating on any tier one FPS on a PC. Ill let you console lovers know a little secret....its easier to cheat on a console. There are a myriad of already existing cheats for console games not the least of which is the ever-present lag switching we see now. You DO NOT SEE THOSE ON COD OR DESTINY for the PC. It checks your software are boot, at lobby, at load, and randomly during play. If you don't match...bingo. You get kicked, and a free reinstall. PC is not plagued by cheaters, but this game currently is. Sorry you are butt hurt about it no longer being a console shooter , but in truth you're not really the audience they are looking for anyway. They want an EVE like experience with EVE like revenue streams. Console players don't provide that, and the consoles don't provide the longevity needed to have a "forever" game like EVE in the form of a FPS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_v_X3LLKc take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514


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