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One Eyed King wrote:

BARAGAMOS wrote:

Ripley what do you think not playing/not active on the boards means from a CPM? You can't say "I don't care" any louder without just starting a thread about it in GD. Hard to be a sounding board for a community you are no longer a part of. Regardless of "patches", active is active and inactive is inactive. You have some that still play, but the sad truth is most won the rigged popularity contest and moved on. In truth its more than a little shady to run the post then disappear. Looks like most wanted a free trip and an ego boost. For the few that still actually play and communicate, good for them and good for us. The rest, stop making excuses for. They can always post their own....if they ever actually log on.

I mean you don't elect a Senator to represent your state only to be ok with them moving to Canada. You expect interaction. Believe it or not some things about this game and its meta change even when there is no update. Seen any unkillable LAVs of late crashing PCs? That issues is one you would not be aware of if you have not been on for months. There are many other issues as well that were not here even a month ago. When it comes to representation "absence DOES NOT make the heart grow fonder". That and good ideas don't just arrive with new updates.

They weren't elected to play the game on our behalf, they were elected to speak on our behalf.

They don't need to play in order to do that. You have misunderstood and mischaracterized their role.

Senators are paid, and paid well. CPM are volunteers.

Find a better argument.


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BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 452	Posted - 2016.01.27 22:45:00 - [1] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: Hello o/ I know you guys can't tell us anything so I just want to know the answer to one question. Are you excited about anything in Dust's future? You don't even have to say what. I just want to know if you think there is a beneficial change coming? Most don't even play anymore.... Check their weekly kill numbers... Pretty sure most starter fits hit better numbers in a single game than some of them have on their monthlies. So that tells you how little most of them play. Some are still active, but they are by far in the minority.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 460	Posted - 2016.01.28 05:28:00 - [2] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: LHughes Little Boy wrote: You know they don't even play the game right? BARAGAMOS wrote: Most don't even play anymore.... Check their weekly kill numbers... Pretty sure most starter fits hit better numbers in a single game than some of them have on their monthlies. So that tells you how little most of them play. Some are still active, but they are by far in the minority. How is this relevant? Zaria has thousands of hours logged in Dust. Darth and Kirk also have impressive hours logged and lifetime WPs earned. What exactly has changed so much in the last 6 months that required the CPM to play every single day? Or week? Or how about ******* month? Dust has the same core gameplay it had when it first launched. The current CPM has plenty of experience under their belts and playing the game weekly, with so little development occurring, is just silly. I'd rather them spend that time in meetings with CCP actually doing what we elected them to do: act as sounding boards for CCP's ideas and providing informed feedback. If we get a real patch soon then I would like to see the CPM login to play test the changes/new features. It's true. Ripley what do you think not playing/not active on the boards means from a CPM? You can't say "I don't care" any louder without just starting a thread about it in GD. Hard to be a sounding board for a community you are no longer a part of. Regardless of "patches", active is active and inactive is inactive. You have some that still play, but the sad truth is most won the rigged popularity contest and moved on. In truth its more than a little shady to run the post then disappear. Looks like most wanted a free trip and an ego boost. For the few that still actually play and communicate, good for them and good for us. The rest, stop making excuses for. They can always post their own....if they ever actually log on. I mean you don't elect a Senator to represent your state only to be ok with them moving to Canada. You expect interaction. Believe it or not some things about this game and its meta change even when there is no update. Seen any unkillable LAVs of late crashing PCs? That issues is one you would not be aware of if you have not been on for months. There are many other issues as well as well that were not here even a month ago. When it comes to representation "absence DOES NOT make the heart grow fonder". Truthfully you yourself have been scarce on the game as well, so maybe your perception is a little distorted.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 462	Posted - 2016.01.28 05:54:00 - [3] - Quote Soto, I'll remember to ask that the next time I elect someone to represent me. You know because its cool to run for a position you can't actually fill or decide you don't want to after the fact.. I can bet you that "real life" won't stop them from getting on the plane. Bottom line is communicating or playing a few hours a week is not much to ask no matter how busy you are. If it is then you need to resign. Somehow some of them manage to actually do that, so why would you expect different from the rest. Take a look at the other CPM related thread on the front page here. Notice you only see the same few actually taking part. They found the time, and made the effort. Kinda what you expect from them all.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 464	Posted - 2016.01.28 07:15:00 - [4] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: BARAGAMOS wrote: Ripley what do you think not playing/not active on the boards means from a CPM? You can't say "I don't care" any louder without just starting a thread about it in GD. Hard to be a sounding board for a community you are no longer a part of. Regardless of "patches", active is active and inactive is inactive. You have some that still play, but the sad truth is most won the rigged popularity contest and moved on. In truth its more than a little shady to run the post then disappear. Looks like most wanted a free trip and an ego boost. For the few that still actually play and communicate, good for them and good for us. The rest, stop making excuses for. They can always post their own....if they ever actually log on. I mean you don't elect a Senator to represent your state only to be ok with them moving to Canada. You expect interaction. Believe it or not some things about this game and its meta change even when there is no update. Seen any unkillable LAVs of late crashing PCs? That issues is one you would not be aware of if you have not been on for months. There are many other issues as well that were not here even a month ago. When it comes to representation "absence DOES NOT make the heart grow fonder". That and good ideas don't just arrive with new updates. They weren't elected to play the game on our behalf, they were elected to speak on our behalf. They don't need to play in order to do that. You have misunderstood and mischaracterized their role. Senators are paid, and paid well. CPM are volunteers. Find a better argument. How about this one, It is you who do not understand the role, and as usual you speak out of ignorance...... READ THE WHITE PAGES. Its pretty specific about expectations. One of them is a presence and updates about their doings here. You can't do that if you don't log on. You can't speak on anyone's behalf if you aren't here to read what they are saying. Not getting paid is not an excuse either as they knew that going in. If you honestly think representing players of a game you no longer play regularly or in a some cases at all is the best thing for the community or fulfilling the voters expectations for a CPM you are delusional. Everyone knows they have very little real power, but they do have the ear of those that do while the rest of us do not. If they are not a part of the community how can they represent it? There are some who are vocal and active here, but just check the monthly numbers for some and you can see their interest in the game and the community has waned. You can make excuses all you want, but their are many duties and expectations with the position. Some are doing their part, but others have plainly moved on. We all know the game is stagnant, but there are numerous NEW ideas presented here regularly that you could only know about by reading them and discussing here. Their are new issues arising in the game itself that you can only experience by actually playing the game (again the LAV exploit, limbo exploit, or match making errors). Sorry I expect my representatives to actually play the game, but in all honesty that's just common sense.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 465	Posted - 2016.01.28 07:23:00 - [5] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: BARAGAMOS wrote: Bottom line is communicating or playing a few hours a week is not much to ask no matter how busy you are. If it is then you need to resign. Somehow some of them manage to actually do that, so why would you expect different from the rest. . Bottom line is usually a persons signature. Where most of the CPM either list their email, skype, or twitter. Many eve dev's use twitter too. We all stalk each other for news that never comes. Do you have something specific you want to tell them and show them? Do you have a specific question? Contact them and stop being the guy that puts forth no effort other than shitposting on the forums. Because that is my job. The reason they don't post here or answer questions is because they have no answers to give and no new information to release. It is called NDA. No one is **** posting. They just made an observation from readily available data. Read the white pages there is a lot more to the position than having an email link in your signature. I'll ask you for a good argument as to how having someone who no longer takes part in the game is the best person to represent those who do. Like I said before there are some who make effort, and others who have moved on. I just don't know why you would want to make excuses for those who are not doing their part and stating that someone does not play anymore when you can plainly see it on the leaderboards is stating a fact and honestly not really up for debate. I am pretty sure most of us expected ALL of the CPMs to remain active members of the community during their term. Right now a few of them carry the burden for the others.