Am I the only one that still remembers when Thale's rifles had such an insane zoom and range that the only realistic counter to them was another thales (standing in the middle of the battle no less) or an orbital?

Guys could snipe from so deep in their redline you would die to the timer trying to get to them in anything less than an afterburner dropship and even then you'd have to know EXACTLY where they were, and that meant making several passes through their redline letting them know you were looking for them or intimate knowledge of the most popular sniping spots.

They were so far away, they simply would not render when you were in the actual battlefield, making it borderline impossible to countersnipe them even if you knew where they were.

That was bullshit. A good thales sniper could pretty much sit still and farm kills without fear for 90% of battles. By the time someone spent an entire match trying to kill him, he got more thales from EOM salvage.

Compared to that, complaining about being able to kill nearly any redline sniper with a regular, market purchasable tactical or charge sniper rifle, sica, or a militia forge gun is just lol

In your defense, there are still some maps with some pretty bullshit sniper spots, like Manus Peak domination with the facility where the point is on a raised walkway with no cover from redline snipers

So what your saying is everyone should just become good snipers? IMO that is not a viable option. Not all Blue berries are useless even when there not counter sniping. They may not have the skills to do so and they may be dropping up-links and ammo for you.

...Have you seen the blueberries today? o.O

Am I the only one that still remembers when Thale's rifles had such an insane zoom and range that the only realistic counter to them was another thales (standing in the middle of the battle no less) or an orbital?

Guys could snipe from so deep in their redline you would die to the timer trying to get to them in anything less than an afterburner dropship and even then you'd have to know EXACTLY where they were, and that meant making several passes through their redline letting them know you were looking for them or intimate knowledge of the most popular sniping spots.

They were so far away, they simply would not render when you were in the actual battlefield, making it borderline impossible to countersnipe them even if you knew where they were.

That was bullshit. A good thales sniper could pretty much sit still and farm kills without fear for 90% of battles. By the time someone spent an entire match trying to kill him, he got more thales from EOM salvage.

Compared to that, complaining about being able to kill nearly any redline sniper with a regular, market purchasable tactical or charge sniper rifle, sica, or a militia forge gun is just lol

In your defense, there are still some maps with some pretty bullshit sniper spots, like Manus Peak domination with the facility where the point is on a raised walkway with no cover from redline snipers

I'm not afraid to say I was one of those assholes... lol But thats just the way it is. A Sniper's tactic is "Be where the enemy can't get me. If they can get me I'm not doing my job correctly."

Well the spot should not be static the battlefield should be dynamic. Redline makes sniping jobs static. That maybe somewhat fun for snipers but does not make it fun for the rest of us.

I'm not afraid to say I was one of those assholes... lol But thats just the way it is. A Sniper's tactic is "Be where the enemy can't get me. If they can get me I'm not doing my job correctly."

And I was one of the assholes that got real good at flying a militia dropship and BPO heavy with HMG and flaylock/flux nades to mow you guys down and make sure the clone gets terminated

Nothing made me cackle more than killing off a Logi mk.0 with its stacked plates, complex damage mods, nice expensive assortment of triage hives/allotek hives, a cloak to try and hide from me, and the Thales rifle of course, terminating it with the flaylock, then seeing "(Thalesuser) has left the battle"

I think red line sniping is a good tactic. Something like jumping 30 ft instantly is dumb. I can hide from a sniper by not sitting out in the open, I have a small chance to fight AOE that disappears instantaneously over my head.