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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:23:00 -
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Actually, i've ran into the redline multiple times and stabbed a redline sniper only to die .3 seconds later... I know redline sniping is annoying... but that doesn't mean the only ways to kill them are a tank, forge, or another Sniper... You can even fly a derpship into the redline and land on him... or you could get an ADS and kill him... Or you could drive a LAv in there and then jump out to kill him...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:30:00 -
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tritan abbattere wrote:using a dropship and losing both the suit and drop ship for a chance to kill him does not seem right at all. same thing with running into the redline to lose your suit at a chance to shank him. The risk vrs reward will always favor the redline sniper. Not if he's in a proto suit with a Thale's and i'm just in an apex with proto knives... therefore I win...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:33:00 -
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tritan abbattere wrote:Shadow Ryan wrote:You also gotta think for a moment.. Your Scout? Hows it fair to MY play style if you can cloak and come up behind my proto Am-Sentinel and kill him with two shots? Nothing is fair in this game. Everything has it's weakness. Drop a darn Orbital on the sniper or pull out the free sniping suit everyone gets and blow him away. Personally I'd love the Orbital myself because it makes me think, "Damn! I'm such a nuisance they dropped a orbital on little ole sniper me!" And it's happened before and will continue to happen. Just like the redline tankers will happen and the redline Rail Rifle's will happen. It's an aspect of the game and forces you to get better. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) i can put sensor upgrades on my suit so they can't get behind me. that is how it is fair. I got my logi upto 22 DB. very few things can sneak up behind my squad even when there cloaked. 22 DB? Lol I can get under that...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:40:00 -
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Shadow Ryan wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:tritan abbattere wrote:Shadow Ryan wrote:You also gotta think for a moment.. Your Scout? Hows it fair to MY play style if you can cloak and come up behind my proto Am-Sentinel and kill him with two shots? Nothing is fair in this game. Everything has it's weakness. Drop a darn Orbital on the sniper or pull out the free sniping suit everyone gets and blow him away. Personally I'd love the Orbital myself because it makes me think, "Damn! I'm such a nuisance they dropped a orbital on little ole sniper me!" And it's happened before and will continue to happen. Just like the redline tankers will happen and the redline Rail Rifle's will happen. It's an aspect of the game and forces you to get better. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) i can put sensor upgrades on my suit so they can't get behind me. that is how it is fair. I got my logi upto 22 DB. very few things can sneak up behind my squad even when there cloaked. 22 DB? Lol I can get under that... Gallente Scout much? lol ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Actually Min. Two damps get me to 18 DB I believe...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:44:00 -
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@Shadow The Barbershop in the locker room has an Ewar chart for a reason...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:46:00 -
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tritan abbattere wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Actually Min. Two damps get me to 18 DB I believe...
OK but even still a scout is exposing him self when he decloaks to kill a guy. He is squishy. You can see the shimmer as he runs away and the rest of the squad can spray him down. can't do that with a red line sniper can you. Lol... You think I use cloaks? How cute... so very very cute... Also, That's why you de-cloak from a distance for a reason...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:57:00 -
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tritan abbattere wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:tritan abbattere wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Actually Min. Two damps get me to 18 DB I believe...
OK but even still a scout is exposing him self when he decloaks to kill a guy. He is squishy. You can see the shimmer as he runs away and the rest of the squad can spray him down. can't do that with a red line sniper can you. Lol... You think I use cloaks? How cute... so very very cute... Also, That's why you de-cloak from a distance for a reason... EDIT: We're talking about a red line sniper right? Why in the world would he have a whole squad near him and not at the point pushing? IDK someone brought up how scouts are not fair. Im pointing out that a scout can be countered easier then a sniper. Not a decent scout... A Scout is suppose to be a high risk high reward role for a reason... A scout should be able to get off speed hacks, breach a point rekt 5 guys rehack the point back and walk away like it's just a normal day... A scout should be able to hack things draw the enemy over or at least distract them from the point... A scout should be a force multiplier in the right hands... but as far as i've seen CCP has mainly screwed scouts over.... Espcially the ewar part...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 23:09:00 -
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tritan abbattere wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Not a decent scout... A Scout is suppose to be a high risk high reward role for a reason... A scout should be able to get off speed hacks, breach a point rekt 5 guys rehack the point back and walk away like it's just a normal day... A scout should be able to hack things draw the enemy over or at least distract them from the point... A scout should be a force multiplier in the right hands... but as far as i've seen CCP has mainly screwed scouts over.... Espcially the ewar part...
But would you not agree it takes skill as a scout to stay alive and do all those things? A sniper can stay alive by hiding behind a artificial line. Yes, I would agree, but if there's a redline sniper someone should at least attempt to counter snipe... Oh wait I forgot, it's against the blueberry code to be useful in any way...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 23:17:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Am I the only one that still remembers when Thale's rifles had such an insane zoom and range that the only realistic counter to them was another thales (standing in the middle of the battle no less) or an orbital?
Guys could snipe from so deep in their redline you would die to the timer trying to get to them in anything less than an afterburner dropship and even then you'd have to know EXACTLY where they were, and that meant making several passes through their redline letting them know you were looking for them or intimate knowledge of the most popular sniping spots.
They were so far away, they simply would not render when you were in the actual battlefield, making it borderline impossible to countersnipe them even if you knew where they were.
That was bullshit. A good thales sniper could pretty much sit still and farm kills without fear for 90% of battles. By the time someone spent an entire match trying to kill him, he got more thales from EOM salvage.
Compared to that, complaining about being able to kill nearly any redline sniper with a regular, market purchasable tactical or charge sniper rifle, sica, or a militia forge gun is just lol
In your defense, there are still some maps with some pretty bullshit sniper spots, like Manus Peak domination with the facility where the point is on a raised walkway with no cover from redline snipers Hated that so much...
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Posted - 2016.01.21 23:18:00 -
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tritan abbattere wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:tritan abbattere wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Not a decent scout... A Scout is suppose to be a high risk high reward role for a reason... A scout should be able to get off speed hacks, breach a point rekt 5 guys rehack the point back and walk away like it's just a normal day... A scout should be able to hack things draw the enemy over or at least distract them from the point... A scout should be a force multiplier in the right hands... but as far as i've seen CCP has mainly screwed scouts over.... Espcially the ewar part...
But would you not agree it takes skill as a scout to stay alive and do all those things? A sniper can stay alive by hiding behind a artificial line. Yes, I would agree, but if there's a redline sniper someone should at least attempt to counter snipe... Oh wait I forgot, it's against the blueberry code to be useful in any way... So what your saying is everyone should just become good snipers? IMO that is not a viable option. Not all Blue berries are useless even when there not counter sniping. They may not have the skills to do so and they may be dropping up-links and ammo for you. ...Have you seen the blueberries today? o.O
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