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Furrow33 21	Posted - 2012.07.13 19:36:00 - [31] - Quote I see it happening for sure doooown the road. But whoever it is will have to be very knowledgable on more than just dust.
Nu11u5 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2012.07.13 20:48:00 - [32] - Quote I'm sure we will see CMS candidates run with Dust as part of their platforms once the game is released. If it's later seen that Dust needs reserved seats or its own body of representatives than that can be dealt with when the time comes, and will probably be the established CSM itself making the change. I don't see why anything needs to be changed so soon. If you want Dust to be represented on the CSM contact an existing member - they usually have out of game contact methods was well as in Eve. Or, run in next year's election.
[Veteran_Zion Shad] 0	Posted - 2012.07.18 20:30:00 - [33] - Quote It would take a lot of organizing on our part to get numbers to push something like this, but even if we went through all that trouble to get a candidate it's all for nothing if we can't vote for them.
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 142	Posted - 2012.07.19 16:34:00 - [34] - Quote I just thought Zion and the rest of you would be happy to know that several of us on the current CSM do play Dust regularly, and are monitoring it's progress closely, especially with regards to the EVE integration. (I should clarify that I'm definitely interested in making sure Dust is a quality game on its own right, I know full well many of you won't / shouldn't have to play EVE to enjoy Dust 514.) We're already under NDA for all of the Dust 514 project as well as EVE, (not the don't-talk-about-beta NDA, I'm talking about the NDA that lets us talk with the developers about their future plans, release dates, etc.) We recently concluded our 1st summit in Iceland, and there was an entire session at the summit dedicated to talking about Dust 514. Even the half of the CSM that doesn't travel to Iceland got to participate, via the new teleconferencing technology that we pushed CCP to set up for us. It was pretty cool to sit here in Seattle and simultaneously talk with the CSM members in Iceland and Brandon Laurino, in Shanghai. The minutes from this summit have been finalized and are undergoing their last review before release, so you all will have a chance to see what we've been discussing with CCP. I'll be sure to drop a link once it's published. All that to say, at least for the coming year until next March, Dust will be represented by the current CSM. The CSM's work with Dust is still just beginning, CCP Shanghai and CCP Iceland are very different organizations, and while we have extensive contact with the Iceland group we're still working on bringing more of the Shanghai team into our private forums and the daily Skype chats that we use to work on EVE. So in the mean time, the ability for the CSM to influence Dust 514's development is a little hampered by our limited communication, but we're making progress slowly but surely. Zion, in your other thread on the same topic (tsk tsk!) you mentioned some form of live "Discussions" you were part of, that were covered by NDA? I've been playing the game and perusing the forums here and there, but I'm still feeling out the "dust community" whose identity is still clearly emerging. Is this like a podcast or radio thing? If there's a way to do some kind of Q&A in a secure, easy-to-access environment where all of you that aren't EVE players can ask questions about the CSM and how it all works, I'd be happy to set aside some time.
Ventis Gant Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 37	Posted - 2012.07.19 17:39:00 - [35] - Quote Forums Veteran wrote: Zion Shad wrote: Iron Wolf wrote: maybe have the vote cost aurum and you get a special item for your trouble for voting. I myself wouldn't mind this if and when this takes place. There will however be people who will not want to spend money but still want to vote. If it is like the AUR items where you can buy them and sell them to people for ISK then I would see that lessen the argument. Thats an interesting idea, but I'd actually be against it. It would be too easy to set up fake accounts on the PS3, load them with money, and then stuff the ballot box. Granted you're still paying for the Vote, but I think a straight up "An account has to have been active for X days, and has to have purchased Y AUR in its lifetime" should be sufficient (I assume CCP keeps track of how much AUR any given account has purchased). I agree...X amount of Aurum purchased in, say, the 30 days leading up to the vote would make an account eligible to vote, which is pretty much how it works in EvE (account must have been active and paid up for so many days before the vote). As far as "vote buying", this is considered a perfectly legitimate practice in EvE. You get one vote per paying account that meets the age guidlines, so this would seem to be fair for DUST players to do as well. With the average subscription price for a US player of Eve being around $15, then around that value of aurum having been purchased within X days before the election should get a vote. On another note, in EvE, you have the option of buying PLEX with isk, and keeping an active account this way. You can vote on these accounts as well, even though you personally paid no cash for them. Assuming that you can buy aurum packs on the open market with isk (which most of us expect to eventually be able to do), then activating X ammount of Aurum from these packs in the days leading up to the election should also allow that account to vote. I agree, though, that we need time to actually form a community before we need a CSM, or representation on EvE's CSM.
[Veteran_Zion Shad] 0	Posted - 2012.07.22 20:19:00 - [36] - Quote There are multiple ways around weeding out fake voters and I've posted this before and will do again. It is easy for CCP working with Sony to determine how long an account has been active without involving Aur items. I am not against this idea, just stating it can be done. This is going off the knowledge that is given to us through logging in this forum. We go through a Playstation log in screen so CCP knows who has full beta access. By this CCP could also make a program that allows voting to anyone who has been a part of DUST for say four months. Who should vote is not an issue. It's uniting enough DUST Mercs to push a DUST Candidate through and then seek the opportunity to Vote.
[Veteran_Zion Shad] 0	Posted - 2012.08.04 23:34:00 - [37] - Quote Now that everyone has heard about the last CSM Meeting, its time to Bump again
Arceus Evoxazon Hikahotaru 119	Posted - 2012.08.04 23:55:00 - [38] - Quote Key word: mercenary. I don't think that includes the right to choose.
Arceus Evoxazon Hikahotaru 119	Posted - 2012.08.04 23:58:00 - [39] - Quote Not to say this means we shouldn't have a say. Even as a vote, i don't believe that should really apply, but having a lobby? Entirely plausible. To get our voices heard and have a liaison into the Universal endeavors I see as entirely legitimate.
[Veteran_Zion Shad] 0	Posted - 2012.08.05 00:40:00 - [40] - Quote Now it was rumored on Podside podcast by one of the hosts that Hilmar of CCP gave mention to a DUST CSM while on Alliance tournament 10. It was said that not only would DUST get it, they may receive their own counsel that would meet around the same as EVEGÇÖs CSM to organize a signal meet as well as their separate meets. Not sure how true this is, but it would be nice to have a DEV chime in. This statment can be found at Podside on iTunes Quote: UAxDEATH: OK, so when can we run for DUST CSM? (Laughter) CCP Jian: We haven't sorted that part out yet. CSM meeting minutes (page 69) Its being thought of at lest so it's not out of the running. You would have to search the AT10 footage on Youtube to find Hilmar coverage (so I been told)

Devil Biff Imperfects Negative-Feedback 55	Posted - 2012.08.06 09:49:00 - [41] - Quote As with all in the thread, I believe our voice -áshould be heard as well. However, I believe that dust is in too much of a raw form to have a CSM member right now. We have to rely on current members to speak for us. And it's nice to see some of them playing. I do believe we do not see enough of them. It may benefit CSM members to take a dust advisor, someone that plays the game regularly. That way they can ask this person questions and dig deeper into integration. For me the integration is key right now. Market integration, cross game comms, and -ácorp/grouping as well. The other stuff like OB is in the hands of CCP and what they want to make of it. Thanks to-áHeinrich Jagerblitzen for posting. Ur marked for death now. Hehe. J/k. Kinda.-á
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2012.08.08 07:55:00 - [42] - Quote Devil Biff wrote: As with all in the thread, I believe our voice -áshould be heard as well. However, I believe that dust is in too much of a raw form to have a CSM member right now. We have to rely on current members to speak for us. And it's nice to see some of them playing. I do believe we do not see enough of them. It may benefit CSM members to take a dust advisor, someone that plays the game regularly. That way they can ask this person questions and dig deeper into integration. For me the integration is key right now. Market integration, cross game comms, and -ácorp/grouping as well. The other stuff like OB is in the hands of CCP and what they want to make of it. Thanks to-áHeinrich Jagerblitzen for posting. Ur marked for death now. Hehe. J/k. Kinda.-á Great post. I agree that the beta is to early a point to be electing a DUST Candidate, but I do think it is a good time to maybe get things in the works for the future of a candidacy
Lord Crases PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2012.08.08 08:53:00 - [43] - Quote I think what I would be worried about is if there is a dust chair he would become the 'token dust bunnies' at the table but at the same time I do not feel that Dust514 deserves its own council. You can see my point.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2012.08.08 19:53:00 - [44] - Quote Lord Crases wrote: ... but at the same time I do not feel that Dust514 deserves its own council. You can see my point. How come? There will be many aspects to the game beside just fighting. To name a few: 1- Corporation and Alliances 2- PI (Planetary Interaction) 3- Botting (Rouge Drone battling) 4- DUST/EVE Interaction 5- DUST/EVE Integration 6- District ownership 7- Planetary ownership 8- Arms Manufacturing 9- Ship and Vehicle Manufacturing (War barge down to LAVs and so on) 10- E-Sports 11- The list just goes on.... To me this task can not be handled by one.


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