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CaP XZ
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Posted - 2015.12.21 01:20:00 -
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The community will still be divided into sections of players;
"I survived dust on PS3, where the fck is my T-Shirt" "Start fresh, no more pub stomping with everyone starting on equal ground"
In reality those who want SP transferred most likely are worried about how they will run anything but officer to pad their stats . Really though, if you want to be feared in New Eden: Molden Heath (or the coldersack of it), you can prove it with everyone running militia suits. There would be no new-player quitting or frustrated why they can't run prototype power cores on an amarr assault suit, or why they can't run that sneaky minmitar tank when he/she is...bevcause no one else would for the first few weeks (bring back 166k weekly SP).
srs, please send everyone a T-Shirt CCP Team
alt of xavier zor
the real xor
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.12.21 01:22:00 -
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But I like my basic Gallente assault fit with maxed skills.
It wrecks adv, pro, and OFF
And 7 weeks strong of only basics gear!!!
Basic FTW
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
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Posted - 2015.12.21 01:24:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:But I like my basic Gallente assault fit with maxed skills.
It wrecks adv, pro, and OFF
And 7 weeks strong of only basics gear!!!
Basic FTW It isn't really basic with maxed skills.
Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks.
Dust really needs its high sec.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.12.21 01:28:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:But I like my basic Gallente assault fit with maxed skills.
It wrecks adv, pro, and OFF
And 7 weeks strong of only basics gear!!!
Basic FTW It isn't really basic with maxed skills.
Proto with maxed skills isn't really proto either isn't it.
Of course it's still basic.
CEO of T-W-L
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CaP XZ
99
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Posted - 2015.12.21 01:29:00 -
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when everyones rich, no one is.
its basic still, everyone has maxed skills
alt of xavier zor
the real xor
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Russel Mendoza
Klandatu
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Posted - 2015.12.21 01:32:00 -
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Nothing will be tranfered to the ps4. Not even the game. Period.
I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!!
Summoning technique "Gorgon no jutsu"
Vehicle request accepted.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2
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Posted - 2015.12.21 01:32:00 -
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CaP XZ wrote:The community will still be divided into sections of players; In reality those who want SP transferred most likely are worried about how they will run anything but officer to pad their stats . Really though, if you want to be feared in New Eden: Molden Heath (or the coldersack of it), you can prove it with everyone running militia suits. srs, please send everyone a T-Shirt CCP Team
In a nutshell. "Whine whine,I want all my sp and assets and isk so I can fell good about myself by stomping players who don't even have 30 minutes even logged in the game." You can have a t shirt and maybe this toothbrush. But not the money or sp. Why break the game right as it starts?
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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CaP XZ
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Posted - 2015.12.21 01:33:00 -
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Russel Mendoza wrote:I su(k at this game, it lags and i hate it. I will degrade it as much as possible
FTFY
alt of xavier zor
the real xor
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
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Posted - 2015.12.21 03:01:00 -
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On topic for a moment, I kind of want SP to transfer because I don't want to completely waste that 1st year of grinding, But I'm willing to have it flushed down the drain. The only thing I really want to transfer is my BPO's even if they don't work as a infinite free suit anymore (having to spend resources to make the suit instead or something like that).
Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: It isn't really basic with maxed skills.
Proto with maxed skills isn't really proto either isn't it. [/quote] Exactly. Skills give a boost most players would prefer to deny. To a non maxed player, your basic assault suit has up to 25% more fitting capacity and gives up to 25% less dispersion & kick and up to 15% faster "rof" to your basic AR. Your basic AR has reduced fitting reqs, has it's own 25% kick & dispersion reduction, 15% more shield damage, and reloads 15% faster. Then whatever modules you've got on have their respective boosts and then you've got your core skills giving your armor, shield, cpu, and pg a boost. It kind of takes away from the bragging rights of "it's basic". Yeah against a maxed out player in proto yours is basic but against people that aren't it could be considered advanced and even almost proto when noobs are taken into account.
CaP XZ wrote:when everyones rich, no one is.
its basic still, everyone has maxed skills But everyone doesn't have maxed skills because believe it or not new players join this game all the time... most just don't stick around. And then there's people that haven't grinded their balls off or dropped hundreds of dollars to be able to max out everything they want, even older players, hell I'm only just about to reach 60mil (and I played about 4-6 hours a night, every night, for the 1st year I was playing) and I ran across a guy that started in open beta that said he only had around 25mil.
Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks.
Dust really needs its high sec.
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Alena Ventrallis
Commando Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.12.21 04:02:00 -
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I want my SP transferred because I paid money for it in boosters, struggled to get it when the weekly cap was 190,400, and fully expect that investment to make it. Honestly, if the game can be expected to survive when new players go against vets 2 years from now, it can survive with new players going against vets at launch.
When I joined Eve, I didn't complain and demand all the players who had been playing since 2004 to have their SP reset. Why do you?
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.12.21 04:05:00 -
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I need my Name and control of Opus Arcana to transfer.
Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
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aussy sledge
ScReWeD uP InC Devil's Descendants
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Posted - 2015.12.21 05:30:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:I want my SP transferred because I paid money for it in boosters, struggled to get it when the weekly cap was 190,400, and fully expect that investment to make it. Honestly, if the game can be expected to survive when new players go against vets 2 years from now, it can survive with new players going against vets at launch.
When I joined Eve, I didn't complain and demand all the players who had been playing since 2004 to have their SP reset. Why do you? This.
Spreading freedom to all my fellow dust bunnies!
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.12.21 05:35:00 -
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I just don't want to grind again lol
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
1
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Posted - 2015.12.21 06:19:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:CaP XZ wrote:The community will still be divided into sections of players; In reality those who want SP transferred most likely are worried about how they will run anything but officer to pad their stats . Really though, if you want to be feared in New Eden: Molden Heath (or the coldersack of it), you can prove it with everyone running militia suits. srs, please send everyone a T-Shirt CCP Team In a nutshell. "Whine whine,I want all my sp and assets and isk so I can fell good about myself by stomping players who don't even have 30 minutes even logged in the game." You can have a t shirt and maybe this toothbrush. But not the money or sp. Why break the game right as it starts?
I see a lot of people saying they paid for that sp. Technically, those boosters were carnival tickets. You paid a little to have a little more fun. There was no real need to buy them.
I've bought hundreds.
When they port to ps4 all I care about is skins. Convert ALL bpo into skins, apex included, and I'm happy. I've been through several clean slate resets. Another won't kill me.
But if those leaked pics are from a real port, there may be no need to reset. Looked like the exact same game, just current gen hardware. If that's the case there would be no point to reset. A 2-4000 player boost would spread proto forces thin enough for newberries to stay around.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
671
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Posted - 2015.12.21 06:25:00 -
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Russel Mendoza wrote:Nothing will be tranfered to the ps4. Not even the game. Period. Buzz kill =ƒÖà |
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2015.12.21 09:35:00 -
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Russel Mendoza wrote:Nothing will be tranfered to the ps4. Not even the game. Period. Exactly, it will be transferred to PC.
PORTDUST514TOPC
May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.12.21 09:58:00 -
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CaP XZ wrote:The community will still be divided into sections of players; "I survived dust on PS3, where the fck is my T-Shirt" "Start fresh, no more pub stomping with everyone starting on equal ground" In reality those who want SP transferred most likely are worried about how they will run anything but officer to pad their stats . Really though, if you want to be feared in New Eden: Molden Heath (or the coldersack of it), you can prove it with everyone running militia suits. There would be no new-player quitting or frustrated why they can't run prototype power cores on an amarr assault suit, or why they can't run that sneaky minmitar tank when he/she is...bevcause no one else would for the first few weeks (bring back 166k weekly SP). srs, please send everyone a T-Shirt CCP Team
No matter if everyone starts on the same page, you can't satisfy everyone. I wouldn't mind an SP transfer but i could live without it and could see the problems it would cause. Does this mean you'll play Dust on PS4?
Only thing i would really like transferred is the few BPOs i have.
Not everyone celebrates holidays
In pain X(
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
5
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Posted - 2015.12.21 11:04:00 -
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I would be more annoyed by the limit of choices of poor sp, I'm more for a player base separation till new players reach the vet zone. 6 months would work, I mean, after a 3 years wait, 6 month won't be such a great problem.
Camouflage master =ƒÄà
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
207
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Posted - 2015.12.21 11:22:00 -
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CaP XZ wrote:The community will still be divided into sections of players; "I survived dust on PS3, where the fck is my T-Shirt" "Start fresh, no more pub stomping with everyone starting on equal ground" In reality those who want SP transferred most likely are worried about how they will run anything but officer to pad their stats . Really though, if you want to be feared in New Eden: Molden Heath (or the coldersack of it), you can prove it with everyone running militia suits. There would be no new-player quitting or frustrated why they can't run prototype power cores on an amarr assault suit, or why they can't run that sneaky minmitar tank when he/she is...bevcause no one else would for the first few weeks (bring back 166k weekly SP). srs, please send everyone a T-Shirt CCP Team This is strange for me to say, because I hardly have any SP really, but I actually think it would be better to transfer SP, because if everyone starts off on a fresh start, the skill levels would be bland and uninteresting. The thing that makes both EvE and Dust interesting is the fact that all the skill levels are different - there are people who have been around from the start, all the way through to those who are just newberries. It's the gradation of skill levels that actually makes it really something. You NEED people with amazing skill levels, to provide the background against which everything else plays out.
In EvE, of course, it's much more refined - enormous skill levels translate into immense richness both in the skills themselves, as well as the Alliances and Empires that have been built with them. That's not so easy to see in Dust, which doesn't have the richness of universe of EvE. But the huge variation of skill levels makes Dust what it is. So reluctantly, I have to side with those who would want to transfer SP as well as characters. |
Artemis Hyde
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.21 11:38:00 -
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I don't want a T-shirt.. give me a limited edition skin please..
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.12.21 14:09:00 -
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CaP XZ wrote:The community will still be divided into sections of players; "I survived dust on PS3, where the fck is my T-Shirt" "Start fresh, no more pub stomping with everyone starting on equal ground" In reality those who want SP transferred most likely are worried about how they will run anything but officer to pad their stats . Really though, if you want to be feared in New Eden: Molden Heath (or the coldersack of it), you can prove it with everyone running militia suits. There would be no new-player quitting or frustrated why they can't run prototype power cores on an amarr assault suit, or why they can't run that sneaky minmitar tank when he/she is...bevcause no one else would for the first few weeks (bring back 166k weekly SP). srs, please send everyone a T-Shirt CCP Team Uh, maybe we just want to use the assets we trained for?
I mean, consider vehicle operators. Suddenly we have to retrain a large number of high-SP requirement skills just to be able to get our vehicles back.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
555
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Posted - 2015.12.21 14:14:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:But I like my basic Gallente assault fit with maxed skills.
It wrecks adv, pro, and OFF
And 7 weeks strong of only basics gear!!!
Basic FTW Played against you in a match with Panthrax, lying pub stomper. Did you like that Ass whooping in an ADV suit
HMG is my first love
SR my Sancha
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
3
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Posted - 2015.12.21 14:18:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:But I like my basic Gallente assault fit with maxed skills.
It wrecks adv, pro, and OFF
And 7 weeks strong of only basics gear!!!
Basic FTW Played against you in a match with Panthrax, lying pub stomper. Did you like that Ass whooping in an ADV suit
It was energizing. How was yours in basic?
And Panthrax? Are you sure you have the right guy? As far as I'm concerned, I can't recall a single match playing with Panthrax.
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Gallente Loyalist- ION PISTOL FOR LIFE! GFQ!
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
556
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Posted - 2015.12.21 14:21:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:But I like my basic Gallente assault fit with maxed skills.
It wrecks adv, pro, and OFF
And 7 weeks strong of only basics gear!!!
Basic FTW Played against you in a match with Panthrax, lying pub stomper. Did you like that Ass whooping in an ADV suit It was energizing. How was yours in basic? And Panthrax? Are you sure you have the right guy? As far as I'm concerned, I can't recall a single match playing with Panthrax. i do believe you killed me once in that match so kudos.
HMG is my first love
SR my Sancha
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Unholy HateGore
highland marines
121
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Posted - 2015.12.21 15:09:00 -
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Show me anything that states it is even going to be ported. Legion seems to be a dead dream. |
Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
492
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Posted - 2015.12.21 15:17:00 -
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At the bare minimum I'd like to keep all of my assets.
Ideally, I'd like to keep my SP for the reasons Alena said.
Think about all the games that allow you to carry assets/levels/stats from other platforms so long as you do it on a certain day or in a certain time frame. That way the people who want to can.
Some of us invested time and money into the game and we did it for a reason so to be denied the benefits of our loyalty to CCP would just be bad business on their part.
Make no mistake, I'd be ok just a little pissy about starting fresh but if that is the case I'd want all of my personal investment back.
D4GG3R is my mom.
I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
3
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Posted - 2015.12.21 16:08:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:At the bare minimum I'd like to keep all of my assets.
Ideally, I'd like to keep my SP for the reasons Alena said.
Think about all the games that allow you to carry assets/levels/stats from other platforms so long as you do it on a certain day or in a certain time frame. That way the people who want to can.
Some of us invested time and money into the game and we did it for a reason so to be denied the benefits of our loyalty to CCP would just be bad business on their part.
Make no mistake, I'd be ok just a little pissy about starting fresh but if that is the case I'd want all of my personal investment back.
To "balance it out" give everyone their sp and if you played for x time or have x sp, you get 10m starter Sp.
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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations
3
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Posted - 2015.12.21 16:30:00 -
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Either the next-gen game will be designed to (A) accommodate people with high SP and people with low SP at the same time--though hopefully not in the same matches very often or (B) it won't. If A, then allowing SP to transfer shouldn't lead to stomping because the game would be designed to separate high Mu players from low Mu players. If B, then the game is f*cked. Sure wiping all SP will "level the playing field" ...for about 6 - 8 months that is, and then you'll have the same issues with stopping all over again (not to mention, organized squads with lots of Dust 514 experience will still wipe the floor with new players even wearing the same gear and having the same SP). Also, This would generate a hell of a lot of bad blood and pissed off people who have supported the game the most over the years. CCP can keep their t-shirt.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
1
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Posted - 2015.12.21 18:09:00 -
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Keep it, reset it, I'm easy. Doesn't matter either way.
But this "I paid for it!" entitlement bs has got to go.
I've dropped more $ than most, and I know damn good and well: Those dollars are gone. CCP owes me nothing.
However..
Do I want to lose everything? ARE YOU AMONGST THE MENTALLY ******* DIVERGENT?!
Of course I don't. I have billions. All the cal and Ama skins. Most of the rest. Every c-l std bpo... 700 black eagle scouts, 800 rifles. 300+ Viktor. 61 balac cko. Staff recruiter stuffs. Quite a few quafe weapons. Skinweave. Exile. C-l series adv quafe, one of them... The legendary C-l commando bpo. 23 std vehicle passive torque mods, 17 mlt. And a partridge in a pear tree. Not to mention... 110m sp...
It's just... I would let all that go poof, and only shed one tear of nanites, to see dust on my ps4.
I still feel very much this. But while typing it out, lightning has just struck my brain and I've had an apostrophe lel. I will explain shortly.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
1
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Posted - 2015.12.21 18:30:00 -
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I was thinking about eve. People have had to upgrade their systems as it evloved. But their progress stayed through it all.
If we went to ps4, I would expect dust to follow suit. Evolve but not change. (If that makes sense)
I feel this way suddenly, not because of my investment/assets, but because this is New Eden.
If everyone was new and balanced, it kills the point of being here. Your supposed to want that red and black the enemies bring forth. Your supposed to want electronics V. Curse that guy who killed your MLT with proto. Then grind up your own and hunt him down. Go from being the prey, to the predator.
Otherwise, "Welcome to New Eden." is just a catchy phrase.
ALL assets must transfer.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
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