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Daemonn Adima
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2015.12.21 19:04:00 -
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Let's just clear one thing right up:
Dust will not end up on a console. It's just not gonna happen. Consoles in general are a waste of money and another way to milk gamers for all their worth. $10 a month for PSN features PS3 had by default? Like Destiny - pay for the game on PS3, pay for the expansions, pay for a PS4 - lose features I already had (like PvP game modes) unless I pay $10 a month for PS Plus. That's fuxing horse malarkey.
Dust will go to the PC, if it goes anywhere. Then it doesn't have to be ported or moved around in the future. I'd be willing to bet half the reason this game never met its goals was because of the technical limitations of the PS3.
WHY WOULD CCP EVEN WANT TO ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF THIS HAPPENING AGAIN?
I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, but PC is the master race. It makes the most sense business wise for long running IP such as New Eden. CCP is spreading out into that universe with alternative titles like Valkyrie and Gunjack, both on alternatives to current gaming mediums. They've done their exploring into different platforms - if Dust or Legion is announced it will be on the PC, safe and sound sitting next to EVE.
Oh and to the OP:
Unless this is a port, and not a new game, I can see some assets being transferred. Otherwise it would be in the best interest of all players to do a full reset/wipe. |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.28 23:39:00 -
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SP dont matter if Im having fun. The joy of progress makes the EXP gain seem painless
Saying what's on people's minds
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2015.12.29 04:45:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Let's just clear one thing right up:
Dust will not end up on a console. It's just not gonna happen. Consoles in general are a waste of money and another way to milk gamers for all their worth. $10 a month for PSN features PS3 had by default? Like Destiny - pay for the game on PS3, pay for the expansions, pay for a PS4 - lose features I already had (like PvP game modes) unless I pay $10 a month for PS Plus. That's fuxing horse malarkey.
Dust will go to the PC, if it goes anywhere. Then it doesn't have to be ported or moved around in the future. I'd be willing to bet half the reason this game never met its goals was because of the technical limitations of the PS3.
WHY WOULD CCP EVEN WANT TO ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF THIS HAPPENING AGAIN?
I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, but PC is the master race. It makes the most sense business wise for long running IP such as New Eden. CCP is spreading out into that universe with alternative titles like Valkyrie and Gunjack, both on alternatives to current gaming mediums. They've done their exploring into different platforms - if Dust or Legion is announced it will be on the PC, safe and sound sitting next to EVE.
Oh and to the OP:
Unless this is a port, and not a new game, I can see some assets being transferred. Otherwise it would be in the best interest of all players to do a full reset/wipe. This right here is the ignorance and arrogance of PC players.
Psplus isn't required for F2P games. It was added so F2P games had a chance VS big name COD an BF type games.
Also Psplus doesn't cost 10$ a month it's 17.99$ for 3 months,or 49.99$ for a year. AND you get 2 free games every month as well as discounts for the length of your membership,it isn't just "access to multiplayer" as you've said.
So,looking at it from an educated lens... -Someone just got a PS4,it was expensive so they have 0 games. (As i did.) -Look for F2P,avoiding paywalls that make them wait to play. -Find Dust,play,become invested. -Hmm,i can get the COD that's decreasing in fun year by year OR support the game i'm invested in... -Obvious is obvious. -or- -Low on cash,can't buy a new 60$ title,spends 5$ on Dust for the same satisfaction.
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.12.29 11:39:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Keep it, reset it, I'm easy. Doesn't matter either way. But this "I paid for it!" entitlement bs has got to go. I've dropped more $ than most, and I know damn good and well: Those dollars are gone. CCP owes me nothing. However.. Do I want to lose everything? ARE YOU AMONGST THE MENTALLY ******* DIVERGENT?! Of course I don't. I have billions. All the cal and Ama skins. Most of the rest. Every c-l std bpo... 700 black eagle scouts, 800 rifles. 300+ Viktor. 61 balac cko. Staff recruiter stuffs. Quite a few quafe weapons. Skinweave. Exile. C-l series adv quafe, one of them... The legendary C-l commando bpo. 23 std vehicle passive torque mods, 17 mlt. And a partridge in a pear tree. Not to mention... 110m sp... It's just... I would let all that go poof, and only shed one tear of nanites, to see dust on my ps4. I still feel very much this. But while typing it out, lightning has just struck my brain and I've had an apostrophe lel. I will explain shortly. Oh, yes, I have to agree. If it's a choice of a port to PS4 with no transfer or nothing at all, I'll go for the port. |
GeorgeN76
Eden Claims Corp
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Posted - 2015.12.29 11:50:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:But I like my basic Gallente assault fit with maxed skills.
It wrecks adv, pro, and OFF
And 7 weeks strong of only basics gear!!!
Basic FTW Played against you in a match with Panthrax, lying pub stomper. Did you like that Ass whooping in an ADV suit About the original post, I would like to keep the SP I've worked to get.
He is currently in the officer/proto 3 step rehab program
Sounds like he had an episode and slipped=ƒÿ¦
You can play without them lightning
We believe in you =ƒæì
Scouts and Swarms
New Edens Pawn Shop
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2015.12.29 12:45:00 -
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Fresh start is the best policy. Better see it as a NEW game,. |
xavier zor II
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Posted - 2015.12.29 13:30:00 -
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GeorgeN76 wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:But I like my basic Gallente assault fit with maxed skills.
It wrecks adv, pro, and OFF
And 7 weeks strong of only basics gear!!!
Basic FTW Played against you in a match with Panthrax, lying pub stomper. Did you like that Ass whooping in an ADV suit About the original post, I would like to keep the SP I've worked to get. He is currently in the officer/proto 3 step rehab program Sounds like he had an episode and slipped=ƒÿ¦ You can play without them lightning We believe in you =ƒæì
he needs no more ego-stroking from others
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jdom503
blueberry shields forever
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Posted - 2015.12.29 13:36:00 -
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I'd say start fresh. Keep this one open as long as possible but do a true sequel. Fix the weapon specs. Use this game as a study as what to do and not do to fix lag. Give the South Americans a server so their taco stand internet isn't giving g them the advantage. Make a game mode against npcs so that people new to this can train and get better without having to deal with the guys that only proto/officer stomp. Imo they have to cause most that do this suck. I don't know about most but I only see these guys doing it when they know they won't loose many. Just take the time and do it right. Most of us will loose alot of our advantages but if it's a new game we should. Plus I miss the joyment of getting those first proto suits/guns and mods. |
Reign Omega
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.12.29 15:16:00 -
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CaP XZ wrote:The community will still be divided into sections of players; "I survived dust on PS3, where the fck is my T-Shirt" "Start fresh, no more pub stomping with everyone starting on equal ground" In reality those who want SP transferred most likely are worried about how they will run anything but officer to pad their stats . Really though, if you want to be feared in New Eden: Molden Heath (or the coldersack of it), you can prove it with everyone running militia suits. There would be no new-player quitting or frustrated why they can't run prototype power cores on an amarr assault suit, or why they can't run that sneaky minmitar tank when he/she is...bevcause no one else would for the first few weeks (bring back 166k weekly SP). srs, please send everyone a T-Shirt CCP Team
I just want to know....
What is a coldersack?
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.12.29 15:28:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote:Let's just clear one thing right up:
Dust will not end up on a console. It's just not gonna happen. Consoles in general are a waste of money and another way to milk gamers for all their worth. $10 a month for PSN features PS3 had by default? Like Destiny - pay for the game on PS3, pay for the expansions, pay for a PS4 - lose features I already had (like PvP game modes) unless I pay $10 a month for PS Plus. That's fuxing horse malarkey.
Dust will go to the PC, if it goes anywhere. Then it doesn't have to be ported or moved around in the future. I'd be willing to bet half the reason this game never met its goals was because of the technical limitations of the PS3.
WHY WOULD CCP EVEN WANT TO ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF THIS HAPPENING AGAIN?
I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, but PC is the master race. It makes the most sense business wise for long running IP such as New Eden. CCP is spreading out into that universe with alternative titles like Valkyrie and Gunjack, both on alternatives to current gaming mediums. They've done their exploring into different platforms - if Dust or Legion is announced it will be on the PC, safe and sound sitting next to EVE.
Oh and to the OP:
Unless this is a port, and not a new game, I can see some assets being transferred. Otherwise it would be in the best interest of all players to do a full reset/wipe. This right here is the ignorance and arrogance of PC players. Psplus isn't required for F2P games. It was added so F2P games had a chance VS big name COD an BF type games. Also Psplus doesn't cost 10$ a month it's 17.99$ for 3 months,or 49.99$ for a year. AND you get 2 free games every month as well as discounts for the length of your membership,it isn't just "access to multiplayer" as you've said. So,looking at it from an educated lens... -Someone just got a PS4,it was expensive so they have 0 games. (As i did.) -Look for F2P,avoiding paywalls that make them wait to play. -Find Dust,play,become invested. -Hmm,i can get the COD that's decreasing in fun year by year OR support the game i'm invested in... -Obvious is obvious. -or- -Low on cash,can't buy a new 60$ title,spends 5$ on Dust for the same satisfaction. Thank you, Meee One.
You laid out everything I was going to quite concisely.
As I've said before, the PC free-to-play market is a wasteland of dead games where a few still retain their playerbase and keep making money.
The thing is, how many of those that still survive are shooters? TeamFortress 2 doesn't count, because it's a Valve game and Valve is a very well know developer with a massive fanbase far beyond anything CCP has ever had.
How many free-to-play shooters made by a little-known company that came out on PC are still played enough to be noticed?
I want Dust 514 on PS4 because the PS3 was out for seven years before the PS4 launched, and even then won't begin to lose support until the end of 2016 as far as we've been told. Trying to claim that somehow the game will magically "run out of space" again as it did here (which is the fault of shoddy coding that it appears they've tried to learn from), or that having to by a new console again 7 years from now is an unreasonable expectation is just dumb.
I challenge anyone here who claims to be of the PC Master Race to go 10 years without upgrading or replacing a single component in their build.
Hell, I'll be nice and make it 7.
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