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catsrule
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.12.18 03:57:00 -
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So, it has come to my attention that rust415 was holding the Spanish corps back from attacking everyone. Rust lets go of the chain and now all hell breaks loose. Almost all districts are now Spanish owned or soon to be. They want everything, and ye have the power to take everything. So PC becomes a hierarchy then what? Sog seems to be at the top followed by pok and other Spanish corps. They will eventually rule all since the lag is insane. Ok so PC is now a waste land, what's the point. Let's here to what respectable players have to say.
( -í° -£-û -í°)Gò»Gò¦_sìÉsìÉsìÉsìÉ Don't mind me just taking the moderators for a walk!
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Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
851
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Posted - 2015.12.18 04:06:00 -
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Their crappy Internets even make dust lag more then normal. Impressive
Here since Closed beta. That's messed up
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DJINN Heartreaper
Negative-Feedback.
19
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Posted - 2015.12.18 04:11:00 -
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They were beat in at least 3 wars I was in but now we are retired so it's up to you guys now..we're not going to hold your hand..but if you want someone removed message Cusetown and try to get him to bring the CBM back |
Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 04:17:00 -
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We must build a wall!
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
14
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Posted - 2015.12.18 04:30:00 -
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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Re-Re-Re-Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
You never just leave Dust. You story will last forever.
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Bri Bub
Dead TOOMEY
387
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Posted - 2015.12.18 05:07:00 -
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This community needs to shed its bias, actually grow up and mature a whole lot... We live in a small, multi-cultural world... Diversity is the spice of life... We all come from "foreign" roots... o7
Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
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Richard Gamerich-R
Prima Gallicus
178
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Posted - 2015.12.18 05:18:00 -
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Lol they are just good against small Corp. Many times Prima or Dead's man game won against these Latinos, but their timers are hard for European players. It's for that they have many districts, all real American (English) and asian PC corporation are currently dead or not active, so no one to field against them.
For me they can have 50%, they are still bad, and their tacos Internet is a ******* bulshit. Anyway this game become ******* boring too with this server, and repetitive as **** in pub with the matchmaking and these community who play only for their kdr.
Conquer MH don't have any value to my eyes today.
#portdust514
DUST 514 - GET REKT
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y Shadow of Dust
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 05:24:00 -
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Because server service when playing south america favors south america. We lag, they don't, thus they win.
Solution? Bar them from our server and give them their own.
CCP doesn't care though, so.
The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y,
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 05:52:00 -
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Well hey. Not that I'm naming names but a few folk in these 'respectable' high and mighty corps proto stomp in pubs and spam scrub tactics. That and be mildy racist at pointsso they use their own trump card(get it?) The laggy router.. Guess you'll be eating tacos with that quafe instead of bacon.
Vive La Revolucion!
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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benandjerrys
WarRavens Imperium Eden
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 06:05:00 -
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Fight Club needs to come back.
Free isk! (comment with in game name)
#portdust514
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xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
Eternal Beings
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 08:21:00 -
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catsrule wrote:So, it has come to my attention that rust415 was holding the Spanish corps back from attacking everyone. Rust lets go of the chain and now all hell breaks loose. Almost all districts are now Spanish owned or soon to be. They want everything, and ye have the power to take everything. So PC becomes a hierarchy then what? Sog seems to be at the top followed by pok and other Spanish corps. They will eventually rule all since the lag is insane. Ok so PC is now a waste land, what's the point. Let's here to what respectable players have to say.
I would say that every dynasty will end with an exchange of power. For most of the Americans who dominated PC since the start, the fight became stagnant. No matter the events leading up to the power shift meta side, CCP simply failed to deliver something progressive to the game that has been sorely absent for years. Thats really all it is. Is PC still alive? Very much so. Is PC more Spanish than American now? Only the truly racist will give a ****.... As for myself, helping the new wave establish themseleves is what keeps me interested. The Dog Days Are Over.
LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // Director of Eternal Beings // GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate
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Git Gud Bruh
Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
5
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Posted - 2015.12.18 08:52:00 -
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As someone playing a MINIMUM of 3 PC's a day against SOG and POK, I can honestly say...They are the worst possible people to ever PC against. It's all shotguns and agimus and lag out the "assimus".
Normal PC tactics dont work to beat them, every player on their team rocks myo's, they have logi's with codebreakers and myo's, half the time they dont even field sentinels, they literally field a 16 man team of nothing but min assaults and scouts with shottys.
I'm not going to even try to explain the framerate and lag issues that an american player experiences in a european pc against south americans, then throw the fact that everyone of them runs 9.5m a second and is constantly jumping, no one takes damage.
The only feasible way to win against them every time is to stoop to their level. They aren't the best players in dust, not anywhere near it, they simply threw out the rulebook. And now that PC is literally just lag and shotty's its pointless to even fight them like a normal PC team.
But POK aren't as sure of themselves as everyone thinks, I've heard whispers about a payoff for a ceasefire, even they have people they'll pay to keep out of their corporate contracts. |
Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 09:05:00 -
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Who cares about PC. That thing ran out of juice eight months ago since we kicked the last hope out of pc. They fought exactly the same way the above poster mentioned, min shotguns, min shotguns. Im like, not in my house you aint. Some things never change...
+Éux-¦-P-¦+¦-¦-ç+É.k-P
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.18 09:15:00 -
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Most of the good north american PC playerbase won't fight for a single flag. They fight for a cause for a month or two, get bored, then find another cause. This has been cyclical since the dawn of PC. Meanwhile the Latino's and Asians are happy to accrue land within their organized power blocks without having to lose their playerbase immediately after.
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
9
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Posted - 2015.12.18 09:58:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I'm like pretty sure the prediction that the Spanish will own everything due to super lag and U.S player drop was made like 2 years ago and has been coming more of a reality every month.
From a fc'ing and leadership perceptive, when you go into these matches it's pretty much "who f*cking cares who owns the districts if the only requirement to get them is being able to play through heavy lag better than the other team."
It's not that there is not enough people willing to want to have good fights it's just good fights are so hard to get because damn near every match is a lag fest.
I've said it in PC's countless times while fc'ing against spanish corps, does not matter how skilled we are if we can't play through lag we will lose. It is pathetic that this is the situation the game is in.
I'm kind of a big deal.
All PEX User
Buying dead and inactive corporations
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Enlightened Cola
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2015.12.18 10:04:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
Dust has never been a numbers game, and still isn't really.
You can't win, you won't be in PC for long. Even Latino's lose heart and quit and stop showing up.
Never forget, guys, you're mercenaries. The color of your flag means as much as the color of your skin. All that matters is what you get out of it all. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
9
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Posted - 2015.12.18 10:11:00 -
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Also taco net is a misnomer it's not that if us didn't play spanish speaking corps the games would be without lag, they would just be with slightly less laggy. No matter what corp from whatever region you play the lag and framerate is pretty terrible.
I'm kind of a big deal.
All PEX User
Buying dead and inactive corporations
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
5
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Posted - 2015.12.18 11:03:00 -
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Donald Trump wrote:Ban them from the internetz
Camouflage master =ƒÄà
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 11:21:00 -
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One day the whole world will be Brown.
addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 11:23:00 -
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Pretty sure Abyss rules the asian timers while collecting protection money from those in need.
Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
3
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Posted - 2015.12.18 12:17:00 -
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I thank you and respect you for not saying Mexican.
I've been talking to a lotta Spanish speakers of the large corps...........
CEO of T-W-L
YT- LD3514
Gallente Loyalist- ION PISTOL FOR LIFE! GFQ!
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benandjerrys
WarRavens Imperium Eden
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 12:47:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Most of the good north american PC playerbase won't fight for a single flag. They fight for a cause for a month or two, get bored, then find another cause. This has been cyclical since the dawn of PC. Meanwhile the Latino's and Asians are happy to accrue land within their organized power blocks without having to lose their playerbase immediately after.
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
Gen pop Murricans go after fotm corps.
Free isk! (comment with in game name)
#portdust514
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Ceadda Sai
ICE-9 PR0JECT
153
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Posted - 2015.12.18 13:50:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Thank you.
"I love the smell of Warbarge Laser Strikes in the morning... Smells like, Victory!"
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
OnlyOnlineIfICan'tPlayPS4
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 13:53:00 -
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pff yall dumb
obviously just build a large wall around the panels so they can't jump over it with blue bottles and hack it. You should make them pay for it with a small loan of a million isk.
How many references is that?
"I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masturbat afterwards." - CCP LockingBro
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
545
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Posted - 2015.12.18 15:57:00 -
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I can arrange a 8-man team of my buds from those Latino corps to go against you guys in a FW battle to see if you guys can actually beat them or just complaining.
PM me if interested I'll even send you a list of the Mercs who will be there.
I have over 50,000 CP just waiting to get used. How bout it? A PC for supremacy?
HMG is my first love
SR my Sancha
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Milita Mable
CYBER COBRAS ALT
68
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Posted - 2015.12.18 17:17:00 -
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Enlightened Cola wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
Dust has never been a numbers game, and still isn't really. You can't win, you won't be in PC for long. Even Latino's lose heart and quit and stop showing up. Never forget, guys, you're mercenaries. The color of your flag means as much as the color of your skin. All that matters is what you get out of it all.
Have you even played one battle in PC 2.0?
Your the worst person to get advice from for PC. |
Milita Mable
CYBER COBRAS ALT
68
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Posted - 2015.12.18 17:20:00 -
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@ Sota Pop |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
2
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Posted - 2015.12.18 17:42:00 -
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"These server clusters will handle all the latency sensitive first-person shooter aspects of Dust 514."
Taken from Dust 514 on wiki
Hmm it looks like there clusters cannot handle it (even after few years) XD
I do not see issue with part of nationwide here, i see issue with somehow faulty infrastructure of these clusters on Dust server. I understand there is some group of people who dont have my 68/13Mbps cable. I just dont understnd why lag compensation is still baaad.
"Im original Boii Boyko"
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
14
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Posted - 2015.12.18 20:54:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I'm like pretty sure the prediction that the Spanish will own everything due to super lag and U.S player drop was made like 2 years ago and has been coming more of a reality every month. From a fc'ing and leadership perceptive, when you go into these matches it's pretty much "who f*cking cares who owns the districts if the only requirement to get them is being able to play through heavy lag better than the other team." It's not that there is not enough people willing to want to have good fights it's just good fights are so hard to get because damn near every match is a lag fest. I've said it in PC's countless times while fc'ing against spanish corps, does not matter how skilled we are if we can't play through lag we will lose. It is pathetic that this is the situation the game is in. If skills and tactics matter more than the ability to navigate lag pc would be back in the era of Spanish corps just being "allowed" to own land.
That was a joke.
I've fought against them as well, I just don't give a shit anymore.
Re-Re-Re-Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
You never just leave Dust. You story will last forever.
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Daemonn Adima
Horizons' Edge
681
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Posted - 2015.12.18 21:09:00 -
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PC, FW, Pubs... Half the time I run solo and spawn into a match the team VC channel is flooded with kids screaming and music/tv blaring in the background. These same South American players spam myos, MDs and minass shotgun fits in every match.
Then when they squad up its the same bullshit but now theres 4 or more of them. PS3 might be dying in most of the world, but its alive and well in South America... |
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.18 21:14:00 -
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Enlightened Cola wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
Dust has never been a numbers game, and still isn't really. You can't win, you won't be in PC for long. Even Latino's lose heart and quit and stop showing up. Never forget, guys, you're mercenaries. The color of your flag means as much as the color of your skin. All that matters is what you get out of it all.
In this case, losing because you can't stick together.
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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DJINN Heartreaper
Negative-Feedback.
21
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Posted - 2015.12.18 21:16:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:PC, FW, Pubs... Half the time I run solo and spawn into a match the team VC channel is flooded with kids screaming and music/tv blaring in the background. These same South American players spam myos, MDs and minass shotgun fits in every match.
Then when they squad up its the same bullshit but now theres 4 or more of them. PS3 might be dying in most of the world, but its alive and well in South America... They like to spam officer in groups of 4..yet solo players like myself get the blame for killing the community..I've ran officer twice, both times were in a PC...
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xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
Eternal Beings
1
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:03:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Most of the good north american PC playerbase won't fight for a single flag. They fight for a cause for a month or two, get bored, then find another cause. This has been cyclical since the dawn of PC. Meanwhile the Latino's and Asians are happy to accrue land within their organized power blocks without having to lose their playerbase immediately after.
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
^^^ Pretty much
LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // Director of Eternal Beings // GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate
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Enlightened Cola
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:20:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Enlightened Cola wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
Dust has never been a numbers game, and still isn't really. You can't win, you won't be in PC for long. Even Latino's lose heart and quit and stop showing up. Never forget, guys, you're mercenaries. The color of your flag means as much as the color of your skin. All that matters is what you get out of it all. In this case, losing because you can't stick together. And yes, Dust HAS always been a numbers game. The problem is that the side with a lot of numbers is typically also disorganized and can't stack properly to take advantage of it. It's not much of an advantage, after a certain amount of districts you can't stack, so that team beating your ass will just continue too.
when did Dust become a numbers game? When everyones skill level became the same? :\ |
Enlightened Cola
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:21:00 -
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Milita Mable wrote:Enlightened Cola wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
Dust has never been a numbers game, and still isn't really. You can't win, you won't be in PC for long. Even Latino's lose heart and quit and stop showing up. Never forget, guys, you're mercenaries. The color of your flag means as much as the color of your skin. All that matters is what you get out of it all. Have you even played one battle in PC 2.0? Your the worst person to get advice from for PC. lol you still think people listen to you rather then use you as troll bait <3 |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:52:00 -
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Enlightened Cola wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Enlightened Cola wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
Dust has never been a numbers game, and still isn't really. You can't win, you won't be in PC for long. Even Latino's lose heart and quit and stop showing up. Never forget, guys, you're mercenaries. The color of your flag means as much as the color of your skin. All that matters is what you get out of it all. In this case, losing because you can't stick together. And yes, Dust HAS always been a numbers game. The problem is that the side with a lot of numbers is typically also disorganized and can't stack properly to take advantage of it. It's not much of an advantage, after a certain amount of districts you can't stack, so that team beating your ass will just continue too. when did Dust become a numbers game? When everyones skill level became the same? :\
Classic example at its core was back during the era/ae/dns conquest period. Remember when FA did nothing but win for a week straight, but still couldn't do anything to gain territory? In the end, losing everything was inevitable because of the number advantage.
It doesnt matter how good one side is, if they are outnumbered by an organized opponent they will not be able to make any strategic gains and loss is going to happen sooner or later. It was true then, and it's true now.
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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PGMSTER GAC
Grupo de Asalto Chacal General Tso's Alliance
107
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Posted - 2015.12.19 08:17:00 -
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We are not Spanish players, we are hispanic players. Use your brain a lil bit and maybe you will be able to stop us ;)
http://elcomercio.pe/redes-sociales/youtube/youtube-joven-explica-diferencia-entre-latino-hispano-y-espanol-video-noticia-1830214
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IGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê].
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CUSE TOWN333
Capital Acquisitions LLC
3
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Posted - 2015.12.19 08:40:00 -
[38] - Quote
catsrule wrote:So, it has come to my attention that rust415 was holding the Spanish corps back from attacking everyone. Rust lets go of the chain and now all hell breaks loose. Almost all districts are now Spanish owned or soon to be. They want everything, and ye have the power to take everything. So PC becomes a hierarchy then what? Sog seems to be at the top followed by pok and other Spanish corps. They will eventually rule all since the lag is insane. Ok so PC is now a waste land, what's the point. Let's here to what respectable players have to say. we were the only people stomping all the Latino corps and holding them down. Now that we have left it is their time to take over.
actions speak louder then words.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
460
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Posted - 2015.12.19 09:28:00 -
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catsrule wrote:So, it has come to my attention that rust415 was holding the Spanish corps back from attacking everyone. Rust lets go of the chain and now all hell breaks loose. Almost all districts are now Spanish owned or soon to be. They want everything, and ye have the power to take everything. So PC becomes a hierarchy then what? Sog seems to be at the top followed by pok and other Spanish corps. They will eventually rule all since the lag is insane. Ok so PC is now a waste land, what's the point. Let's here to what respectable players have to say.
i actually am unable to play any matches against themvnever mind lose one lol
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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ANON Cerberus
TerranProtossZerg
962
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Posted - 2015.12.19 10:57:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Also taco net is a misnomer it's not that if us didn't play spanish speaking corps the games would be without lag, they would just be with slightly less laggy. No matter what corp from whatever region you play the lag and framerate is pretty terrible.
Hate to say it but I have to agree. They do lag more than others but DUST 514 has systemic problems of poor performance and lag regardless. Even pubs are beginning to get bad at the minute and lets not even mention FW as that is worse than PC at times!
I am still of the firm belief that a substantial amount of people would play this game if we sorted the performance issues out alone. It has always been the games lag / performance problems that have really held this game back more than anything. |
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Leovarian L Lavitz
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
1
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Posted - 2015.12.19 11:04:00 -
[41] - Quote
Agility is the current fotm, they aren't scrubs for exploiting the combination to win. They are playing to win, even if the tactics are not fun for the other team. Is agility overpowered compared to brick tanking? Is it overpowered against dps builds? is it overpowered against ewar builds? Is it overpowered against vehicles, ground and air? Is it overpowered against a squad? is it overpowered as a squad?
Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto
Playstation move player
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Sbundo'D
Dead Meta Game
94
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Posted - 2015.12.19 11:11:00 -
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Us? Keep chasing that bandwagon! you can keep up!!
We all know Grupo really just sit about and wait for another small Corp to attack
When I started PC = Regular attacks from GAC Once I learned to FC = No attacks from GAC in a year
So don't worry about the communities generalizations, we know the truth.. you are just scrubs
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Sbundo'D
Dead Meta Game
94
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Posted - 2015.12.19 11:18:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Agility is the current fotm, they aren't scrubs for exploiting the combination to win. They are playing to win, even if the tactics are not fun for the other team. Is agility overpowered compared to brick tanking? Is it overpowered against dps builds? is it overpowered against ewar builds? Is it overpowered against vehicles, ground and air? Is it overpowered against a squad? is it overpowered as a squad?
Watch some recent PC vids.. Gamerich has a good one Prima Vs SOG.. It's like watching 16v16 super mario FPS in New Eden lol
Bastards have killed the fun for me in fights as FC....
Gameplan..
"rush the city and hop about with agimoose/bons" "spam as many DS as it takes until you can camp highground to your hearts content"
They play well as a team, but it's like CCP intentionally buffed the crappiest pub tactics to make an impact on PC Well, great news it worked!!! 2 years later and we are still under the illusion that spamming Fotm in a group = teamwork
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.19 11:21:00 -
[44] - Quote
Well, seems like things are exactly where they should be in any event.
If the game ports, there will be a big regional demographic shift.
If it doesn't, well, no one can rule a game that's been taken offline.
Either way, enjoy the waiting game.
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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PGMSTER GAC
Grupo de Asalto Chacal General Tso's Alliance
108
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Posted - 2015.12.20 01:05:00 -
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Sbundo'D wrote:Us? Keep chasing that bandwagon! you can keep up!! We all know Grupo really just sit about and wait for another small Corp to attack When I started PC = Regular attacks from GAC Once I learned to FC = No attacks from GAC in a year So don't worry about the communities generalizations, we know the truth.. you are just scrubs
Ok bigboy, u are great! IM SO SORRY, please dont get mad, forgive me please great master of dus!! hahahahahahahahah sooooooooooo funny u bigboy.
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benandjerrys
WarRavens Imperium Eden
1
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Posted - 2015.12.20 01:50:00 -
[46] - Quote
To the war room we go, to the war room we go. Hi ho a dairy oh... To the war room we go!
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catsrule
D3ATH CARD RUST415
156
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Posted - 2015.12.20 02:38:00 -
[47] - Quote
I refer to Hispanics as Spanish because NA server
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Enlightened Cola
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2015.12.20 03:13:00 -
[48] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Classic example at its core was back during the era/ae/dns conquest period. Remember when FA did nothing but win for a week straight, but still couldn't do anything to gain territory? In the end, losing everything was inevitable because of the number advantage.
This example has an issue - it was 3 teams of almost equal strength, and 2 decided to jump one. You were losing, otherwise districts don't flip, there's no way around that unless you're giving them up.
Burnout started rearing it's ugly head, and that's probably why you feel numbers matter, to prevent it and keep your players fresh.
But if you guys weren't burning, and winning all the time, you wouldn't of needed to fold like you did. One team of 16 would easily, forever, hold it's own against any sort of mass.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.20 08:24:00 -
[49] - Quote
Enlightened Cola wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Classic example at its core was back during the era/ae/dns conquest period. Remember when FA did nothing but win for a week straight, but still couldn't do anything to gain territory? In the end, losing everything was inevitable because of the number advantage.
This example has an issue - it was 3 teams of almost equal strength, and 2 decided to jump one. You were losing, otherwise districts don't flip, there's no way around that unless you're giving them up. Burnout started rearing it's ugly head, and that's probably why you feel numbers matter, to prevent it and keep your players fresh. But if you guys weren't burning, and winning all the time, you wouldn't of needed to fold like you did. One team of 16 would easily, forever, hold it's own against any sort of mass.
Clearly it could not. But FA was winning the vast majority of matches. We had one day where a number of losses piled on, and we recognized that we would never gain ground no matter how many victories we secured. We didn't bother much after that and kinda let the rest just go.
Your scenario of one team holding districts indefinitely requires that they are not outnumbered, have a huge lead in skill and are incapable of ever losing a match. It is an unrealistic scenario.
It is true that is is easier to defend districts that are not stacked, but unless the attacking side burns out and collapses from internal strife there is no strategic way to win the war itself.
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Enlightened Cola
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2015.12.20 09:29:00 -
[50] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Enlightened Cola wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Classic example at its core was back during the era/ae/dns conquest period. Remember when FA did nothing but win for a week straight, but still couldn't do anything to gain territory? In the end, losing everything was inevitable because of the number advantage.
This example has an issue - it was 3 teams of almost equal strength, and 2 decided to jump one. You were losing, otherwise districts don't flip, there's no way around that unless you're giving them up. Burnout started rearing it's ugly head, and that's probably why you feel numbers matter, to prevent it and keep your players fresh. But if you guys weren't burning, and winning all the time, you wouldn't of needed to fold like you did. One team of 16 would easily, forever, hold it's own against any sort of mass. Clearly it could not. But FA was winning the vast majority of matches. We had one day where a number of losses piled on, and we recognized that we would never gain ground no matter how many victories we secured. We didn't bother much after that and kinda let the rest just go. Your scenario of one team holding districts indefinitely requires that they are not outnumbered, have a huge lead in skill and are incapable of ever losing a match. It is an unrealistic scenario. It is true that is is easier to defend districts that are not stacked, but unless the attacking side burns out and collapses from internal strife there is no strategic way to win the war itself. The thing is, my scenario is Dust's history. It's always been like this, one corp stomping everyone else. The only time it wasn't the case is the scenario you brought up.
So, I guess you're right, there was one point in Dust's history numbers mattered. ;) |
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.20 19:19:00 -
[51] - Quote
You haven't been around for 90% of dusts history Sota what are you talking about lol
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Enlightened Cola
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2015.12.20 20:05:00 -
[52] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You haven't been around for 90% of dusts history Sota what are you talking about lol ... what?
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Sbundo'D
Dead Meta Game
97
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Posted - 2015.12.23 11:06:00 -
[53] - Quote
PGMSTER GAC wrote:Sbundo'D wrote:Us? Keep chasing that bandwagon! you can keep up!! We all know Grupo really just sit about and wait for another small Corp to attack When I started PC = Regular attacks from GAC Once I learned to FC = No attacks from GAC in a year So don't worry about the communities generalizations, we know the truth.. you are just scrubs Ok bigboy, u are great! IM SO SORRY, please dont get mad, forgive me please great master of dus!! hahahahahahahahah sooooooooooo funny u bigboy.
Yup, at least you went with sarcasm.. good choice
Trying to act like GAC don't sit about waiting to attack newbs would have been too much for you <3
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catsrule
D3ATH CARD RUST415
158
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Posted - 2015.12.23 19:22:00 -
[54] - Quote
Some great points
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Bradric Banewolf
Eternal Beings
1
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Posted - 2015.12.24 00:23:00 -
[55] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Most of the good north american PC playerbase won't fight for a single flag. They fight for a cause for a month or two, get bored, then find another cause. This has been cyclical since the dawn of PC. Meanwhile the Latino's and Asians are happy to accrue land within their organized power blocks without having to lose their playerbase immediately after.
Hate to say it but you reap what you sow. Learn to stick together or get overwhelmed. It's a numbers game and they have more.
Dead correct!
American corps can't stop trolling long enough to get serious. The american playerbase is full of individuals that repeat the same mistakes over and over. Far too much butthurt over bs, and too many kd padders?! The few that actually have the testicular fortitude to make things happen are often derailed trying to train stubborn players, re-train so-called "slayers" to play as a team, and adjust to CCP's bs?!
Point blank period spanish corps stick together, and come to each others aid. American players are the type of guys that hold onto grudges against chicks....
Man told me a chick rubbed him the wrong way I've never had any female rubbed me the WRONG way lol!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
Eternal Beings
1
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Posted - 2015.12.24 00:51:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:catsrule wrote:So, it has come to my attention that rust415 was holding the Spanish corps back from attacking everyone. Rust lets go of the chain and now all hell breaks loose. Almost all districts are now Spanish owned or soon to be. They want everything, and ye have the power to take everything. So PC becomes a hierarchy then what? Sog seems to be at the top followed by pok and other Spanish corps. They will eventually rule all since the lag is insane. Ok so PC is now a waste land, what's the point. Let's here to what respectable players have to say. we were the only people stomping all the Latino corps and holding them down. Now that we have left it is their time to take over. For 2 and a half years it was a full time job keeping them at bay and we were un defeated in all wars against them. Its a shame and very pitiful that no one else can handle the task of keeping them in check. We are having fun on ps4 so if someone else can handle the job it would be very nice.
We're beating em don't worry. While the "convenient" one-sided lag is a continuous issue. We still put up W's! The problem with the smaller corps is bad leadership or none, no real FC or team mates not supporting the FC, and my biggest pet peeve.... these corp ceo's that are happy to watch their guys get crushed just to keep their failing corp alive?! They won't merge, work together, or even support other corps in battle.
I see corp leaders type RF10.... RF10? You don't need ringers, you need to sell those districts and join another corp?! Then no one actually goes to help for several reasons...
1. Apathy 2. ... well really that's it?! guys would rather play pubs?!
Also see alot of blame gaming. "My FC can't FC" Actually what I notice is you followed 0 of the commands issued, and often single-handedly crushed your team with your lack of communication and teamwork! The FC usually can be complete shiite, and as long as the team plays as a team you will do well.
There's like 3500 corps in dust, and only 2000 players?! 5 man active corps wanting to hold districts, and their game plan is "pay ringers", beg for help in chat, or no show?!
Also, alot of guys in these small corps are there because no one tells them about their asses there. In that last corp the guys there told you you were applying wrong tactics, and you spazzed out like a girl?! Stop crying and get back in the fight. Otherwise don't cry about the spanish, or anyone else.
Alot of you also look to be carried! As stated by Cuse and other players they're playing ps4. No more getting in OH, and watching them win from the bench. Now you're the FC, speed scout, tanker, ADS, assault, etc. that's being depended on! What's happened is the days of rooting for the A team is over! You're on then field now, and all your pubbing out isn't helping now!
I say it like it is.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Leovarian L Lavitz
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
2
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Posted - 2015.12.25 07:08:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sbundo'D wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Agility is the current fotm, they aren't scrubs for exploiting the combination to win. They are playing to win, even if the tactics are not fun for the other team. Is agility overpowered compared to brick tanking? Is it overpowered against dps builds? is it overpowered against ewar builds? Is it overpowered against vehicles, ground and air? Is it overpowered against a squad? is it overpowered as a squad? Watch some recent PC vids.. Gamerich has a good one Prima Vs SOG.. It's like watching 16v16 super mario FPS in New Eden lol Bastards have killed the fun for me in fights as FC.... Gameplan.. "rush the city and hop about with agimoose/bons" "spam as many DS as it takes until you can camp highground to your hearts content" They play well as a team, but it's like CCP intentionally buffed the crappiest pub tactics to make an impact on PC Well, great news it worked!!! 2 years later and we are still under the illusion that spamming Fotm in a group = teamwork I'm a hopper myself, but use a rifle, no explosives.
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deadpool lifetone
78
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Posted - 2015.12.25 10:50:00 -
[58] - Quote
catsrule wrote:So, it has come to my attention that rust415 was holding the Spanish corps back from attacking everyone. Rust lets go of the chain and now all hell breaks loose. Almost all districts are now Spanish owned or soon to be. They want everything, and ye have the power to take everything. So PC becomes a hierarchy then what? Sog seems to be at the top followed by pok and other Spanish corps. They will eventually rule all since the lag is insane. Ok so PC is now a waste land, what's the point. Let's here to what respectable players have to say.
P.C is Not Dead . But all the video's I've recorded of dealing with the lag have gone to waste . Sent them to CCP when asked by them and no response on that matter ever since . This has always happen . First it was N.S ( lag to peaces ) , Then Prima / What The French ( Rubberbanding Everywhere ) , After DMG / Wesker Core ( 1 Frame a minute ) , and now SOG / Carne Con Papas / POK ( dead before you spawn in ) . Real U.S corps have never gotten any breaks and never have or ever will . it doesn't matter if you have a SSD / 137 download 60 upload speed's etc . server priority is not for the U.S .
( F U!!!! ) * ( Why Dead? )
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DJINN Heartreaper
Negative-Feedback.
55
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Posted - 2015.12.25 14:03:00 -
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The game is dead and very few vets care..everyone's doing siege or fallout 4 As for Americans staying in one Corp..well if you want the current players in then try it..my loyalty has and always will be to Imperfects first, NF(alliance) second..true I have jumped around but my loyalty has never changed |
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