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benandjerrys
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:10:00 -
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Sidearm damage bonus like the commando gets on light weapons? Thoughts? Concerns?
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:18:00 -
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Pointless honestly
I only deal in absolutes
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:19:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:Sidearm damage bonus like the commando gets on light weapons? Thoughts? Concerns? I can dig this...
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benandjerrys
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:22:00 -
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Like all of em. Light, medium, heavy. Easy peasy.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:26:00 -
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Why? The purpose of the basic frames is such that it has no speciality. It's supposed to be general purpose. Giving it such a bonus would make it no longer general purpose.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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Satanic Fister
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:36:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Why? The purpose of the basic frames is such that it has no speciality. It's supposed to be general purpose. Giving it such a bonus would make it no longer general purpose. They really have no purpose as is... their fitting space at lvl 5 on all my cores is nothing compared to an assault of the same class... hell we should get rid of basic frames and make logis and commandos available after you get lvl 3 in the assault and sentinel roles...
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benandjerrys
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:45:00 -
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My problem is that no one uses them!
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:11:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:My problem is that no one uses them! They're supposed to suck so that players try to go into the specialist versions sooner.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:14:00 -
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Satanic Fister wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Why? The purpose of the basic frames is such that it has no speciality. It's supposed to be general purpose. Giving it such a bonus would make it no longer general purpose. They really have no purpose as is... their fitting space at lvl 5 on all my cores is nothing compared to an assault of the same class... hell we should get rid of basic frames and make logis and commandos available after you get lvl 3 in the assault and sentinel roles... That makes zero sense. How is Logistics the continuation of the assault role? They're practically opposites in terms of the role they fill so why would one be required to train the other. Commandos and Sentinels are also very much not the same role so again why wpuld one the prereq to the other?
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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Happy Violentime
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:17:00 -
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Meee One wrote:benandjerrys wrote:My problem is that no one uses them! They're supposed to suck so that players try to go into the specialist versions sooner.
Bonuses, smonuses... They're perfectly decent at level 5 and way cheaper than the specialist versions.
You should though get basic at lvl 1, ADV lvl 2 and proto at lvl 3 - I don't know anyone who has basic suits at lvl 5 I mean why would you? |
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Satanic Fister
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:47:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Satanic Fister wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Why? The purpose of the basic frames is such that it has no speciality. It's supposed to be general purpose. Giving it such a bonus would make it no longer general purpose. They really have no purpose as is... their fitting space at lvl 5 on all my cores is nothing compared to an assault of the same class... hell we should get rid of basic frames and make logis and commandos available after you get lvl 3 in the assault and sentinel roles... That makes zero sense. How is Logistics the continuation of the assault role? They're practically opposites in terms of the role they fill so why would one be required to train the other. Commandos and Sentinels are also very much not the same role so again why wpuld one the prereq to the other? Because ccp?
"It's like a porcupine with down syndrome... you know it wants hugs but they don't know the pain they cause..."
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.12.13 06:57:00 -
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No not because CCP. The way it currently is set up makes far more sense than making Assaults a prereq for Logistics and Sentinels a prereq for Commando
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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Joseph Ridgeson
warravens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.13 09:02:00 -
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Interesting idea but not really that useful.
Frames are obese, mounds of flesh with patchy chest hair on their manboobs. Even if I w-, errrr, 'they' were to have some small benefit no one would want one wrapped around themselves. It is by design. Rookie ships in EVE don't need more fitting simply because they aren't used.
The basic suits don't have much of a purpose anymore though. When you were expecting to get 320,000 SP a week, having basic suits was useful before you started spending far more into a specific suit. Nowadays even a beginner can get to basic specialist suits in a week or two so the frames don't have much point. If #PortDust514 goes through, I would want there to be more focus on the roles of the suits before you chose your race. Kind of like what the progression system was for Legion, though obviously not having that ridiculous part that in order to get a specific weapon you have to go down a certain suit tree.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.12.13 10:16:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Meee One wrote:benandjerrys wrote:My problem is that no one uses them! They're supposed to suck so that players try to go into the specialist versions sooner. Bonuses, smonuses... They're perfectly decent at level 5 and way cheaper than the specialist versions. You should though get basic at lvl 1, ADV lvl 2 and proto at lvl 3 - I don't know anyone who has basic suits at lvl 5 I mean why would you? I thought they costed the same? I remember when they were more expensive in ISK than the roles lol good times, good times.
Scouts United
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
899
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Posted - 2015.12.13 13:23:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Meee One wrote:benandjerrys wrote:My problem is that no one uses them! They're supposed to suck so that players try to go into the specialist versions sooner. Bonuses, smonuses... They're perfectly decent at level 5 and way cheaper than the specialist versions. You should though get basic at lvl 1, ADV lvl 2 and proto at lvl 3 - I don't know anyone who has basic suits at lvl 5 I mean why would you?
I have my basic heavy and basic medium suits to level 5.
They are more unique then these ignorant forumites put off.
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS
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Sbundo'D
Dead Meta Game
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Posted - 2015.12.13 13:54:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Meee One wrote:benandjerrys wrote:My problem is that no one uses them! They're supposed to suck so that players try to go into the specialist versions sooner. Bonuses, smonuses... They're perfectly decent at level 5 and way cheaper than the specialist versions. You should though get basic at lvl 1, ADV lvl 2 and proto at lvl 3 - I don't know anyone who has basic suits at lvl 5 I mean why would you?
Quiet you..
Take your logic and bring it somewhere it is welcome.
CCP ain't got time fo dat shiznit
Don't be a D1CK
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benandjerrys
warravens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.13 16:14:00 -
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They ain't really cheaper and are require lvl 5 skills for proto... With no reward for doing so. Lvl 3 is sufficient enough to open up assault and logistics. The only thing its got for it is 2 equipment slots but you have to compromise for good utilization of them.
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feAr raiser103
BAT OUT OF HELL
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Posted - 2016.01.22 02:22:00 -
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I use the basic caldari it has good cpu/pg and it allows me to equip a nanite injector and repair tool whil having a sidearm it much cheaper on skill point and I'm level 5 basic caldari |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2016.01.22 02:58:00 -
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feAr raiser103 wrote:I use the basic caldari it has good cpu/pg and it allows me to equip a nanite injector and repair tool whil having a sidearm it much cheaper on skill point and I'm level 5 basic caldari
^ this.
When my brother started, I was around 95 mil. He skilled basic to V just to have a competitive suit faster than the save for a role. Not to mention, cheaper.
He did well with it and was able to grind out a pro role. And was ready for it because he already leveled his core for basic.
Not to mention, it gives you a good taste for medium/heavy before you pick a role. The light gets you ready for how squishy scouts can be.
I have mine to V on cal M, just for another unique skin, as it were...
Viewer some of the pro basic frames. Most of them have sweet unique skins. (Most...)
@_@ looking at you... Caldari heavy.....
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Pierced Daddy
0ther.Haven
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Posted - 2016.01.22 03:31:00 -
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Satanic Fister wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Why? The purpose of the basic frames is such that it has no speciality. It's supposed to be general purpose. Giving it such a bonus would make it no longer general purpose. They really have no purpose as is... their fitting space at lvl 5 on all my cores is nothing compared to an assault of the same class... hell we should get rid of basic frames and make logis and commandos available after you get lvl 3 in the assault and sentinel roles...
Min medium frame proto...2 equipment slots makes fir fun AV suit with plasma cannon and jump mods. AV nades, nanohives and re's. |
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.22 03:43:00 -
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There is absolutely no point in Basic Frames, You idiots should petition to have them removed. As they are just paperweight. Free up some memory around here.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
954
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:06:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:There is absolutely no point in Basic Frames, You idiots should petition to have them removed. As they are just paperweight. Free up some memory around here.
... But my Basic Gal Heavy can run 7.87m/s with tons of cardio and a Forge in his hand with knives in his back pocket.. making it the fastest Forger this side of the wormhole..
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS
PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH
ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:17:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:There is absolutely no point in Basic Frames, You idiots should petition to have them removed. As they are just paperweight. Free up some memory around here. ... But my Basic Gal Heavy can run 7.87m/s with tons of cardio and a Forge in his hand with knives in his back pocket.. making it the fastest Forger this side of the wormhole..
Bruh you don't even run Basic Frames !! All I ever see you do Is punch people lol
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Soto Gallente
348
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:26:00 -
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Basic suits are anything BUT useless. They certainly could use racial bonuses but it is not necessary. This is coming from the guy with a Amarr Heavy Frame ak.0 and Amarr Light Frame ak.0.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Soto Gallente
348
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:27:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:ROMULUS H3X wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:There is absolutely no point in Basic Frames, You idiots should petition to have them removed. As they are just paperweight. Free up some memory around here. ... But my Basic Gal Heavy can run 7.87m/s with tons of cardio and a Forge in his hand with knives in his back pocket.. making it the fastest Forger this side of the wormhole.. Bruh you don't even run Basic Frames !! All I ever see you do Is punch people lol Nah brah, he is an epic forge gunner as well.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Soto Gallente
348
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:28:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:There is absolutely no point in Basic Frames, You idiots should petition to have them removed. As they are just paperweight. Free up some memory around here. So, you mean I didn't just go 27/8 in a advanced amarr heavy frame killing both a rattati's and a logibro's?
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Soto Gallente
348
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:30:00 -
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Devadander wrote:feAr raiser103 wrote:I use the basic caldari it has good cpu/pg and it allows me to equip a nanite injector and repair tool whil having a sidearm it much cheaper on skill point and I'm level 5 basic caldari ^ this. When my brother started, I was around 95 mil. He skilled basic to V just to have a competitive suit faster than the save for a role. Not to mention, cheaper. He did well with it and was able to grind out a pro role. And was ready for it because he already leveled his core for basic. Not to mention, it gives you a good taste for medium/heavy before you pick a role. The light gets you ready for how squishy scouts can be. I have mine to V on cal M, just for another unique skin, as it were... Viewer some of the pro basic frames. Most of them have sweet unique skins. (Most...) @_@ looking at you... Caldari heavy..... Actually, the ones without unique proto skins are: -Gallente Heavy Frame -Caldari Light Frame
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Soto Gallente
348
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:31:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:They ain't really cheaper and are require lvl 5 skills for proto... With no reward for doing so. Lvl 3 is sufficient enough to open up assault and logistics. The only thing its got for it is 2 equipment slots but you have to compromise for good utilization of them. Actually, they are very cheaper. I think around half as much as the specialized proto equivalent.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Soto Gallente
348
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:32:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Meee One wrote:benandjerrys wrote:My problem is that no one uses them! They're supposed to suck so that players try to go into the specialist versions sooner. Bonuses, smonuses... They're perfectly decent at level 5 and way cheaper than the specialist versions. You should though get basic at lvl 1, ADV lvl 2 and proto at lvl 3 - I don't know anyone who has basic suits at lvl 5 I mean why would you? I have my basic heavy and basic medium suits to level 5. They are more unique then these ignorant forumites put off. +1
Though I would have liked your post anyway
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Soto Gallente
348
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Posted - 2016.01.22 05:33:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Meee One wrote:benandjerrys wrote:My problem is that no one uses them! They're supposed to suck so that players try to go into the specialist versions sooner. Bonuses, smonuses... They're perfectly decent at level 5 and way cheaper than the specialist versions. You should though get basic at lvl 1, ADV lvl 2 and proto at lvl 3 - I don't know anyone who has basic suits at lvl 5 I mean why would you? I thought they costed the same? I remember when they were more expensive in ISK than the roles lol good times, good times. No, they cost A LOT cheaper
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