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Xvos Reigns
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:17:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Xvos Reigns wrote:DIinkelFritz wrote:One can hope. Honestly, these shots look like clips of a cinematic in the making more so than something you would see in the battlefield. Still, the look of that vehicle in the last image appears to be some type of manned warbird. Could be dust. Could be Valkyrie. Though the pics look good...in fact, very good..I would have to say that these pictures could be for show.....and there is no hint that they are for dust.... ;p Your kinda wrong when the image of the gunnlogi has a dust 514 logo on it. Also if you've played or seen starwars battlefront, games can look this good during play. If legion (or whatever you want to call it) looks as good as battlefront... I doubt i'll ever play another game again xD This exactly. Not that I play much of anything else anyway.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
21
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:38:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Most crayze thing here is spaceship boarding from Dust. Now all 'mecenary' thing will work. Eve players MUST pay for protection and planet/station conquer. In other hand all logistic will be depended from eve-side.. and that will be equal relationship.
I'm not sure that's how it is going to work.
I remain convinced that even if we are going to see a port of sudden revision of Dust 514 as we know it our interaction with EVE pilots will be relatively low or if present one quite dependent on their input.
Without significant changes to Dust 514's Faction Warfare system our efforts in the Warzone will be very minimal and summarised in the words of a fleet member whom I couldn't identify on the TS I was using when Amarr Mil recently recapture Sahtogas ' Annoying as ****.'
Frankly I don't blame pilots from loathing the Dust modifiers which can change unpredictably and balls up concerted efforts by militia entities for no reason other than 'cuz a bunch of dusters are won more fights in the last 2 hours than their opponents'. Again mechanics are poor for reflecting terrestrial control of regions and planets.
PC means nothing to capsuleers so long as it is relegated to Molden Heath and more importantly will continue to mean nothing to EVE pilots until it starts to affect resource rates from PI or Moons.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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ANON Cerberus
TerranProtossZerg
955
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jack Boost wrote:Most crayze thing here is spaceship boarding from Dust. Now all 'mecenary' thing will work. Eve players MUST pay for protection and planet/station conquer. In other hand all logistic will be depended from eve-side.. and that will be equal relationship. I'm not sure that's how it is going to work. I remain convinced that even if we are going to see a port of sudden revision of Dust 514 as we know it our interaction with EVE pilots will be relatively low or if present one quite dependent on their input. Without significant changes to Dust 514's Faction Warfare system our efforts in the Warzone will be very minimal and summarised in the words of a fleet member whom I couldn't identify on the TS I was using when Amarr Mil recently recapture Sahtogas ' Annoying as ****.' Frankly I don't blame pilots from loathing the Dust modifiers which can change unpredictably and balls up concerted efforts by militia entities for no reason other than 'cuz a bunch of dusters are won more fights in the last 2 hours than their opponents'. Again mechanics are poor for reflecting terrestrial control of regions and planets. PC means nothing to capsuleers so long as it is relegated to Molden Heath and more importantly will continue to mean nothing to EVE pilots until it starts to affect resource rates from PI or Moons.
Most people wont give much of a damn about PI but if we had influence of Moon goo.... now that would raise a lot of eyebrows. I would even consider it as end game content in a future version of DUST / EVE FPS |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:16:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jack Boost wrote:Most crayze thing here is spaceship boarding from Dust. Now all 'mecenary' thing will work. Eve players MUST pay for protection and planet/station conquer. In other hand all logistic will be depended from eve-side.. and that will be equal relationship. I'm not sure that's how it is going to work. I remain convinced that even if we are going to see a port of sudden revision of Dust 514 as we know it our interaction with EVE pilots will be relatively low or if present one quite dependent on their input. Without significant changes to Dust 514's Faction Warfare system our efforts in the Warzone will be very minimal and summarised in the words of a fleet member whom I couldn't identify on the TS I was using when Amarr Mil recently recapture Sahtogas ' Annoying as ****.' Frankly I don't blame pilots from loathing the Dust modifiers which can change unpredictably and balls up concerted efforts by militia entities for no reason other than 'cuz a bunch of dusters are won more fights in the last 2 hours than their opponents'. Again mechanics are poor for reflecting terrestrial control of regions and planets. PC means nothing to capsuleers so long as it is relegated to Molden Heath and more importantly will continue to mean nothing to EVE pilots until it starts to affect resource rates from PI or Moons. Most people wont give much of a damn about PI but if we had influence of Moon goo.... now that would raise a lot of eyebrows. I would even consider it as end game content in a future version of DUST / EVE FPS
Even then it would have to be a very specific kind of interaction that perhaps only reduces the rates of production as opposed to severing it entirely otherwise the Nullblocs would be up in arms about it. Likely it would have to be end game and very high tier content to the point of exclusivity to whomsoever is hired to do the work since NullSec corps won't want people screwing around and likely won't tolerate **** ups either.
I strikes me that the concept of a cloned soldier is wholly redundant in its current form. All we do is squabble over surface infrastructure/ production facilities in incredibly controlled environments that really takes the emphasis of clandestine corporate take overs or acquisitions and defenestrates them. Additionally we are paid incredibly large sums, considering 1 ISK can feed families for a month, by companies that could attain equal of better results by hiring baseliner mercenaries they could dispose of later.
Something CCP also needs to consider is why we exist.....what roles we fill. Most of what we do now can be achieved more easily by baseliners. They're easier to recruit, cheaper to train and outfit, etc for most things....
The only value cloned soldiers have over regular soldiers is the retention of experience upon death coupled with super human durability.
I think it would be cool for CCP to basically re-jig the existing lore of cloned soldiers so that we are not longer so strictly involved with CONCORD as well as being soldiers designed for specialised conflicts where the going war price is too costly to deploy baseliners.
E.G- Moons, Dead Space Structures, Highly Irradiated or Toxic Landscapes or Automated Production Facilities, Shattered Planets, and Orbital Defence Platforms/Stations/Infrastructure Hubs/Customs Offices.
Otherwise AI that we can fight alongside wouldn't go far amiss. Dust makes New Eden feel empty.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Xvos Reigns
378
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:23:00 -
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You did see those moon infrastructure images right? This may be within the realm of possibility soon. Tm |
Jammeh McJam
Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
442
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:31:00 -
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I've just seen a key part of one of these images that we seem to have not picked up on!
Idk how I missed it before! This is amazing!
Not only will we get trees...
We'll get chairs O.O
#ChairHype
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
PC master race
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DIinkelFritz
The Eternal Noxium Imperium
16
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:43:00 -
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Xvos Reigns wrote:DIinkelFritz wrote:One can hope. Honestly, these shots look like clips of a cinematic in the making more so than something you would see in the battlefield. Still, the look of that vehicle in the last image appears to be some type of manned warbird. Could be dust. Could be Valkyrie. Though the pics look good...in fact, very good..I would have to say that these pictures could be for show.....and there is no hint that they are for dust.... ;p Your kinda wrong when the image of the gunnlogi has a dust 514 logo on it. Also if you've played or seen starwars battlefront, games can look this good during play.
I noticed the symbol. The picture is my new desktop background. The post was half sarcasm and the half skepticism. If it is what we all hope it to be, then mind blown.
Committed suicide....again...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
21
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Posted - 2015.12.14 00:19:00 -
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Xvos Reigns wrote:You did see those moon infrastructure images right? This may be within the realm of possibility soon. Tm
They'd need to do something more than just offer us maps. What I am seeking is a self contained explanation and justification of exactly what cloned soldiers are for.
At the moment we are mere soldiers whom EVE players could care less about. However if we were established as the premier operatives who can be bought for, trained for, and purpose built to fight in a capsuleer relevant environment such as the places I listed above the perhaps we would be better received as part of the EVE Universe idea.
We need to become relevant to them not the other way around.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Xvos Reigns
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Posted - 2015.12.14 00:19:00 -
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DIinkelFritz wrote:Xvos Reigns wrote:DIinkelFritz wrote:One can hope. Honestly, these shots look like clips of a cinematic in the making more so than something you would see in the battlefield. Still, the look of that vehicle in the last image appears to be some type of manned warbird. Could be dust. Could be Valkyrie. Though the pics look good...in fact, very good..I would have to say that these pictures could be for show.....and there is no hint that they are for dust.... ;p Your kinda wrong when the image of the gunnlogi has a dust 514 logo on it. Also if you've played or seen starwars battlefront, games can look this good during play. I noticed the symbol. The picture is my new desktop background. The post was half sarcasm and the half skepticism. If it is what we all hope it to be, then mind blown. Me too. If this is the future of dust. Mind Blown. |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 00:46:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Xvos Reigns wrote:DIinkelFritz wrote:One can hope. Honestly, these shots look like clips of a cinematic in the making more so than something you would see in the battlefield. Still, the look of that vehicle in the last image appears to be some type of manned warbird. Could be dust. Could be Valkyrie. Though the pics look good...in fact, very good..I would have to say that these pictures could be for show.....and there is no hint that they are for dust.... ;p Your kinda wrong when the image of the gunnlogi has a dust 514 logo on it. Also if you've played or seen starwars battlefront, games can look this good during play. If legion (or whatever you want to call it) looks as good as battlefront... I doubt i'll ever play another game again xD
My thoughts exactly.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2015.12.14 00:53:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Most crayze thing here is spaceship boarding from Dust. Now all 'mecenary' thing will work. Eve players MUST pay for protection and planet/station conquer. In other hand all logistic will be depended from eve-side.. and that will be equal relationship. There will never be boarding of player-controlled ships in EVE online.
Allowing this removes player agency from the EVE players.
NPC controlled ships could conceivably be done.
But EVE player ship boarding will happen approximately on the day the world unanimously accepts me as their glorious king and obey my every whim.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
21
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:00:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Jack Boost wrote:Most crayze thing here is spaceship boarding from Dust. Now all 'mecenary' thing will work. Eve players MUST pay for protection and planet/station conquer. In other hand all logistic will be depended from eve-side.. and that will be equal relationship. There will never be boarding of player-controlled ships in EVE online. Allowing this removes player agency from the EVE players. NPC controlled ships could conceivably be done. But EVE player ship boarding will happen approximately on the day the world unanimously accepts me as their glorious king and obey my every whim.
Theoretically though we could board deployable assets could we not? Not for the purposes of destroying or high jacking but reducing the resourced rates of whatever is being produced.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Jack Boost wrote:Most crayze thing here is spaceship boarding from Dust. Now all 'mecenary' thing will work. Eve players MUST pay for protection and planet/station conquer. In other hand all logistic will be depended from eve-side.. and that will be equal relationship. There will never be boarding of player-controlled ships in EVE online. Allowing this removes player agency from the EVE players. NPC controlled ships could conceivably be done. But EVE player ship boarding will happen approximately on the day the world unanimously accepts me as their glorious king and obey my every whim. Theoretically though we could board deployable assets could we not? Not for the purposes of destroying or high jacking but reducing the resourced rates of whatever is being produced.
Ships are trickier but I think structures, particularly with some of the new stuff coming out, is conceivable to an extent.
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Syeven Reed
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:16:00 -
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I check back every now and again specifically for topics like these!
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:36:00 -
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Ah, more stuff to look forward to when CCP is bought by a game company that knows how to produce.
(Gasp) is this fromGǪ THE FUTURE!
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.14 06:10:00 -
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Think I'll bump.
It's fun to have this at the top of page 1, if only to see how long it takes for the devs to finally break down and respond.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.14 10:44:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Think I'll bump.
It's fun to have this at the top of page 1, if only to see how long it takes for the devs to finally break down and respond.
Why would they say anything about I hope you are enjoying the new wallpapers while everyone goes wild with speculation and makes people want to give CCP money.
This is the greatest marketing ploy CCP has ever pulled.
Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.12.14 12:44:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Think I'll bump.
It's fun to have this at the top of page 1, if only to see how long it takes for the devs to finally break down and respond. Why would they say anything about "I hope you are enjoying the new wallpapers" while everyone is going wild with speculation and making people want to give CCP money. This is the greatest marketing ploy CCP has ever pulled. You know, with all the EVIL MONEYGRUBBING CCP junk I see on a regular basis, I think the following should be kept in mind:
A. CCP is made up of people a lot like you and me that do their jobs because they like what they do. B. A company that doesn't make money is a dead company. Employees have to be paid, expenses have to be handled, etc.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.14 12:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Think I'll bump.
It's fun to have this at the top of page 1, if only to see how long it takes for the devs to finally break down and respond. Why would they say anything about "I hope you are enjoying the new wallpapers" while everyone is going wild with speculation and making people want to give CCP money. This is the greatest marketing ploy CCP has ever pulled. You know, with all the EVIL MONEYGRUBBING CCP junk I see on a regular basis, I think the following should be kept in mind: A. CCP is made up of people a lot like you and me that do their jobs because they like what they do. B. A company that doesn't make money is a dead company. Employees have to be paid, expenses have to be handled, etc.
I have absolutely zero problem with them money grubbing because exactly as you say that is the only way they stay in business.
What I do have a problem with is an epidemic of total mismanagement and people going right along with it like it is fine. In a free market system consumers essentially vote with their wallets and Dust is in the condition it is because all of us including myself were dumb enough to continue to send a message to CCP that not caring about the game and stringing us along is totally fine.
Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
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Mad Syringe
Carbon 7
867
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Posted - 2015.12.14 12:52:00 -
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The safest guess right now, is that these pictures where made for internal presentations. Doesn't matter if that was for a pitch towards investors or for other reasons. I highly doubt that we will see anything like this in a game anytime soon.
That CCP isn't even investing in market updates seems to show their lack of any work being done on this game whatsoever.
By now I doubt, that we'll see 1.3 to ever hit our consoles.
All in all... a lot of time wasted for broken promises... and a lackluster game. |
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:00:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:The safest guess right now, is that these pictures where made for internal presentations. Doesn't matter if that was for a pitch towards investors or for other reasons. I highly doubt that we will see anything like this in a game anytime soon.
That CCP isn't even investing in market updates seems to show their lack of any work being done on this game whatsoever.
By now I doubt, that we'll see 1.3 to ever hit our consoles.
All in all... a lot of time wasted for broken promises... and a lackluster game.
We have seen in the past that very little happens in January and February thanks to the amazing amount of holidays in China so I am quickly losing hope that 1.3 is either coming soon or going to go well. Best case scenario at this point is it comes out in mid January and sees a slow painful process on getting the bugs worked out due to very low working hours.
I previously said I am willing to hang around up to Fan Fest in hopes of news but it is getting harder to say that will be the case. Every time I turn on my PS4 I get a little less desire to go back over to the PS3 even to hang out with friends from Dust.
Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:55:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Think I'll bump.
It's fun to have this at the top of page 1, if only to see how long it takes for the devs to finally break down and respond. I think this "leak" was a response.
A response to all the players questioning if Dust had a future.
It clearly does,just not as lightning fast as some may want.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 14:15:00 -
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Oh god ... but why 10 years plan of leaking?
Not much time left...
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.12.14 14:32:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Moderately curious what kind of conversation is going on at CCP about the leak right now. Why debate over them?
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VAHZZ
Community Cream Pie
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Moderately curious what kind of conversation is going on at CCP about the leak right now. Why debate over them? But it is the stuff
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Thor Odinson42
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2015.12.14 16:13:00 -
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Just when I thought I'd never think about Dust again... |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 16:15:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Just when I thought I'd never think about Dust again...
Dust was aptly named, hard habit to kick.
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Thor Odinson42
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2015.12.14 16:18:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Just when I thought I'd never think about Dust again... Dust was aptly named, hard habit to kick.
I kicked it. I haven't had my PS3 even hooked up for a month. I finally moved my PS4 into the man cave and shelved the PS3. I will not play Dust again on the PS3 unless they announce they are killing it and I'll jump on for old times sake. |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
1
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Posted - 2015.12.14 17:00:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Devadander wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Just when I thought I'd never think about Dust again... Dust was aptly named, hard habit to kick. I kicked it. I haven't had my PS3 even hooked up for a month. I finally moved my PS4 into the man cave and shelved the PS3. I will not play Dust again on the PS3 unless they announce they are killing it and I'll jump on for old times sake.
Just had a thread yesterday on such thoughts. You have not kicked it. You still own the 3, you could have pawned it. Obviously did not biomass. Here you are on the forums saying hi. If it showed up on the 4, would you play?
(Not snarky, just something I have observed a lot lately. Very few actually kick it, even if they don't play. No offense meant.)
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Alena Ventrallis
Commando Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.12.14 17:36:00 -
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You speak like a naive newberry, who believes that CCP will actually develop this game into something more.
Admirable, but mistaken.
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
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