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Freshbrood Clan Strife
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:01:00 -
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Do we work so hard to get better gear just to make more kills, earning us better gear to get even more kills?
It's become all about the K/D. That discourages team play- Nobody wants to take risks anymore because they'll lose their stupid suits. Why do objectives even matter?
What's the game really about? |
Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
887
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:07:00 -
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To have fun 
You know what gaming is for
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lamo guys
Corrosive Synergy
136
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:09:00 -
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To me its a game to have fun! I'll usually go all out in a battle, I care less about k\d! I'm playing to win or dying trying, negative or positive don't matter.
Don't blink it will be over quick
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:10:00 -
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It's not that fun when aur players just stomp you, and your own teammates don't help out because they're too busy hiding because they don't want to risk their stupid aur special suits.
Fun is having more game modes, quests, places to explore, fun co-op team play that matters..
Not just killing to get better gear, that you can then use to kill more and then get even better gear.. to kill more, etc..
Besides, all this grinding is negated by the sore winner who can't stand to grind and instead pays $1.99 for suits that stomp you, even though you've leveled up for 2 years to use the market suits you use.
The game isn't about team play- it's all about k/d.
AUR should be used to unlock more game modes, not overpowered gear. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
21
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:12:00 -
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To me it was about building myself into a capable and competitive soldier or mercenary. From there I found that operating mainly in Devoid and The Bleak Lands with the Imperial Guard and 24th Imperial Crusade was what occupied my time.
Our goal was no less than combating the traditionally dominant Minmatar war effort in the region which we helped to overturn several times until earlier this year.
That was the point of becoming an immortal clone soldier then. Now I do it for different reasons.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
887
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:15:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:It's not that fun when aur players just stomp you, and your own teammates don't help out because they're too busy hiding because they don't want to risk their stupid aur special suits.
Fun is having more game modes, quests, places to explore, fun co-op team play that matters..
Not just killing to get better gear, that you can then use to kill more and then get even better gear.. to kill more, etc..
Besides, all this grinding is negated by the sore winner who can't stand to grind and instead pays $1.99 for suits that stomp you, even though you've leveled up for 2 years to use the market suits you use.
The game isn't about team play- it's all about k/d.
AUR should be used to unlock more game modes, not overpowered gear.
Sounds like you need to 'GET GUD'
Stop moaning that some es out gunned you and take a different strategy
In your 2 years you should have picked up atleast to adapted to tour enermy
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:To me it was about building myself into a capable and competitive soldier or mercenary. From there I found that operating mainly in Devoid and The Bleak Lands with the Imperial Guard and 24th Imperial Crusade was what occupied my time.
Our goal was no less than combating the traditionally dominant Minmatar war effort in the region which we helped to overturn several times until earlier this year.
That was the point of becoming an immortal clone soldier then. Now I do it for different reasons.
Fun story bro. But how?
Let me guess- by defending 1 to 5 objectives with your aur/op gear, or slaughtering red teams, in turn getting even better gear to then defend 1 to 5 more objectives or slaughter a red team, in turn getting even better gear to...
Yeah. I get it. |
Freshbrood Clan Strife
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:18:00 -
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I am good. I'm usually top 5 with double digit kills and single digit deaths.
But still, it sucks feeling like out of a team of 16 players, I'm only ever 1 of 4 that really tries to defend objectives.
"good" is a matter of perspective.
I don't think someone who just camps in the hills every battle and buildz their K/D without helping out their teammates or defending objectives is a "good" player. I think those players are exactly the reason Dust is os life support. |
Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
888
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:24:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:I am good. I'm usually top 5 with double digit kills and single digit deaths.
But still, it sucks feeling like out of a team of 16 players, I'm only ever 1 of 4 that really tries to defend objectives.
"good" is a matter of perspective.
I don't think someone who just camps in the hills every battle and pads their K/D without helping out their teammates or defending objectives is a "good" player. I think those players are exactly the reason Dust is on life support.
U know there's more than 1 way to win a battle right, clone them.
So what if someone would rather get kills than hack the objective, the discussion is up to them. So stop moaning how merc's should behave in your opinion
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:27:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:Do we work so hard to get better gear just to make more kills, earning us better gear to get even more kills?
It's become all about the K/D. That discourages team play- Nobody wants to take risks anymore because they'll lose their stupid suits. Why do objectives even matter?
What's the game really about?
the point for you is to play dust
that is until its shut down due to Sony
did you miss the part where Sony discontinued the PS3 in New Zealand ?
did you miss the part where in 2016 the PS3 will be discontinued in other areas? |
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:29:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:Do we work so hard to get better gear just to make more kills, earning us better gear to get even more kills?
It's become all about the K/D. That discourages team play- Nobody wants to take risks anymore because they'll lose their stupid suits. Why do objectives even matter?
What's the game really about? the point for you is to play dust that is until its shut down due to Sony did you miss the part where Sony discontinued the PS3 in New Zealand ? did you miss the part where in 2016 the PS3 will be discontinued in other areas?
Did you miss the part where CCP said they would eventually move it to the PS4? |
Freshbrood Clan Strife
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:32:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:I am good. I'm usually top 5 with double digit kills and single digit deaths.
But still, it sucks feeling like out of a team of 16 players, I'm only ever 1 of 4 that really tries to defend objectives.
"good" is a matter of perspective.
I don't think someone who just camps in the hills every battle and pads their K/D without helping out their teammates or defending objectives is a "good" player. I think those players are exactly the reason Dust is on life support. U know there's more than 1 way to win a battle right, clone them. So what if someone would rather get kills than hack the objective, the discussion is up to them. So stop moaning how merc's should behave in your opinion
If someone would rather get kills than SUPPORT THEIR TEAM, then play Ambush.
Ah, but that takes SKILL, and coward players who only want to sit there and hide while padding their K/D ratio wouldn't have any objectives to distract the enemies away from them. It's about being courteous and a team player. If you don't want to be a team player, don't play on a team. You only mess it up for the people who do try for the objective. You have Ambush mode to be selfish on. Leave team objective modes for team players. |
Freshbrood Clan Strife
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:36:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:To have fun You know what gaming is for Plus you know that 90% of the merc's out there don't care about there kdr right.
90% of mercs? WHERE ARE THEY? Not on my teams 8 in 10 times. Scotty's matchmaking is broken. |
Vlad Rostok
317
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:44:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:It's not that fun when aur players just stomp you, and your own teammates don't help out because they're too busy hiding because they don't want to risk their stupid aur special suits.
Fun is having more game modes, quests, places to explore, fun co-op team play that matters..
Not just killing to get better gear, that you can then use to kill more and then get even better gear.. to kill more, etc..
Besides, all this grinding is negated by the sore winner who can't stand to grind and instead pays $1.99 for suits that stomp you, even though you've leveled up for 2 years to use the market suits you use.
The game isn't about team play- it's all about k/d.
AUR should be used to unlock more game modes, not overpowered gear.
People use aur to buy consumable suits and gear? I mostly bought skill point boosters with my aurum. Oh and that hologram honey that helps you sell your excess crap to the npc market.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
21
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:50:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:True Adamance wrote:To me it was about building myself into a capable and competitive soldier or mercenary. From there I found that operating mainly in Devoid and The Bleak Lands with the Imperial Guard and 24th Imperial Crusade was what occupied my time.
Our goal was no less than combating the traditionally dominant Minmatar war effort in the region which we helped to overturn several times until earlier this year.
That was the point of becoming an immortal clone soldier then. Now I do it for different reasons. Fun story bro. But how? Let me guess- by defending 1 to 5 objectives with your aur/op gear, or slaughtering red teams, in turn getting even better gear to then defend 1 to 5 more objectives or slaughter a red team, in turn getting even better gear to... Yeah. I get it.
Initially the difficulty was that the mercenaries and soldiers loyal to the Amarr Empire were fragmented and disorganised due to the sudden changes thrust upon us in becoming immortal clones. Around this time I signed on to work for Praetoria Imperialis Excubatoris, a loyalist paramilitary that directly supported the 24th Imperial Crusade.
With the aid of corporate allies and other loyalists met on and off the field we were able to gather enough allied operatives to successfully maintain a concerted presence in the CEWMPA warzone around the clock. With other mercenary outfits and orbital strike support from Pratorian pilots and militia members we were able to smash aside Minmatar resistances and hammer them into submission across the warzone over a 72 hour period which internally PIE codified as the 'St Junip Crusade'.
Both in space and across the ground Imperial forced gained ground resulting in a final day of conquest which resulted in 87% control of the warzone and 7 systems consecutively laid siege to and captured.
By no means was PIE Inc solely responsible for this massive effort we were simply a large, vocal group of soldiers that formed a small but dedicated core of the militia waiting for the order to start the attack from the Admiralty. Hellstorm Inc, EoN Alliance, and the loyalists who were too many to name saw the Amarr become a resurgent force in the warzone and claim sovereignty over most of Metropolis and Heimatar.
After that Templar soldiers like myself desired a more tangible autonomy to pursue its own goals as well as the goals with allies in the warzone and thusly we formed PCLAS to act as interstellar marines for whatever purpose the Admiralty could possibly require. Beyond that I must acknowledge that besides PIE Ground Control there were other soldiers and deployment channels that were formed when PCLAS was effectively out of the warzone that became the beating heart of the militia itself.
If you like I can go into real depth about exactly what the experience from having nothing to controlling everything entailed including the forgotten names of the PIE Inc fire teams that we're engaging and regularly defeating much larger and purportedly more organised Minmatar loyalist corporations.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2015.12.04 01:02:00 -
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The point of Dust is to squeeze as much money out of the playerbase as possible so CCP can pay the forum moderators to ban my farm alt accounts when they randomly come back to life and terrorize the forums.
Take another one CCP, I still have like 8 or 9. |
Union118
TH3 STRUGGL3
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 01:36:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:Do we work so hard to get better gear just to make more kills, earning us better gear to get even more kills?
It's become all about the K/D. That discourages team play- Nobody wants to take risks anymore because they'll lose their stupid suits. Why do objectives even matter?
What's the game really about?
Honestly the forums are more fun. I enjoy reading stuff people post. Is that sad i get more entertainment on here than on the game. I feel sorry for dust.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.12.04 01:44:00 -
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Maxing out a weapon or a new suit
I only deal in absolutes
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
935
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Posted - 2015.12.04 01:46:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:Did you miss the part where CCP said they would eventually move it to the PS4?
CCP never said this. In fact, CCP have said they can't comment on if/when Dust would be ported or to which platform(s)
If you have a link to a CCP comment confirming a port, please share. The Clone Mercs of New Eden are waiting.
Purifier. First Class.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 01:48:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:Do we work so hard to get better gear just to make more kills, earning us better gear to get even more kills?
It's become all about the K/D. That discourages team play- Nobody wants to take risks anymore because they'll lose their stupid suits. Why do objectives even matter?
What's the game really about?
No, it's no fun anymore. The one sided matches are bogging it down. People used to worry about kdr.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.12.04 01:56:00 -
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Playing FW as much as I can to effect eve online FW battles
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
891
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Posted - 2015.12.04 07:52:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:I am good. I'm usually top 5 with double digit kills and single digit deaths.
But still, it sucks feeling like out of a team of 16 players, I'm only ever 1 of 4 that really tries to defend objectives.
"good" is a matter of perspective.
I don't think someone who just camps in the hills every battle and pads their K/D without helping out their teammates or defending objectives is a "good" player. I think those players are exactly the reason Dust is on life support. U know there's more than 1 way to win a battle right, clone them. So what if someone would rather get kills than hack the objective, the discussion is up to them. So stop moaning how merc's should behave in your opinion If someone would rather get kills than SUPPORT THEIR TEAM, then play Ambush. Ah, but that takes SKILL, and coward players who only want to sit there and hide while padding their K/D ratio wouldn't have any objectives to distract the enemies away from them. It's about being courteous and a team player. If you don't want to be a team player, don't play on a team. You only mess it up for the people who do try for the objective. You have Ambush mode to be selfish on. Leave team objective modes for team players.
(grabs popcorn)
You know dust is centerd around its own money system so although yes we may have objective game modes but every Merc is out there for them selfs and to make profit.
I love the fact that everyone singles out the skilled killers and just labels them a kdr paddlers, I mean it's not like we're playing to have fun or anything (sarcasm) you know as dust is a game 
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
170
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Posted - 2015.12.04 09:31:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:To have fun You know what gaming is for Plus you know that 90% of the merc's out there don't care about there kdr right.
Sorry, but I'm not having "fun". It's more like masochism to me. I don't care about k/d, and I'm only still playing because I know that eventually it has to get better (I know the EvE Universe skilling system) but I am bothered that Dust might not be around much longer for me to get good enough to make a difference and actually start "enjoying" it.
So I play just to see if I can glean what little achievement I can out of it, using mostly blueprints, because the ridiculously one-sided matches I get as a solo would mean I just lose everything. |
Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
894
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Posted - 2015.12.04 09:51:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Genral69 death wrote:To have fun You know what gaming is for Plus you know that 90% of the merc's out there don't care about there kdr right. Sorry, but I'm not having "fun". It's more like masochism to me. I don't care about k/d, and I'm only still playing because I know that eventually it has to get better (I know the EvE Universe skilling system) but I am bothered that Dust might not be around much longer for me to get good enough to make a difference and actually start "enjoying" it. So I play just to see if I can glean what little achievement I can out of it, using mostly blueprints, because the ridiculously one-sided matches I get as a solo would mean I just lose everything.
Sounds like your playing dust to much, try playing other games from time to time. Currently I'm play dark souls 2 when I'm not online gaming and my God it's challenging
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
170
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Posted - 2015.12.04 10:40:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Genral69 death wrote:To have fun You know what gaming is for Plus you know that 90% of the merc's out there don't care about there kdr right. Sorry, but I'm not having "fun". It's more like masochism to me. I don't care about k/d, and I'm only still playing because I know that eventually it has to get better (I know the EvE Universe skilling system) but I am bothered that Dust might not be around much longer for me to get good enough to make a difference and actually start "enjoying" it. So I play just to see if I can glean what little achievement I can out of it, using mostly blueprints, because the ridiculously one-sided matches I get as a solo would mean I just lose everything. Sounds like your playing dust to much, try playing other games from time to time. Currently I'm play dark souls 2 when I'm not online gaming and my God it's challenging
I do play other games, but none of them have the potential of Dust, or at least the potential it should have. I was honestly thinking that it would be the ground-based accoutrement to my EvE Online experience. However, I was sadly quite disappointed. I wish I could say that Dust has some meaning, as EvE Online does but there are too many people who are content to say "It's just a game" and excuse all the shortcomings.
I play Dust now mainly because I started playing. I don't want to waste all the effort I've put into it so far, and I don't want to let down my Corp which at least sees some potential in me. Taking a break won't change anything; either I will continue to play or just stop. If I decide to stop, I'll just go back to EvE Online, where I still maintain active accounts. EvE Online has warts as well, but not a bad as Dust, and the good bits truly are just so much better. No, if I take a break, I know I won't come back. So I continue regardless, in the hope it will somehow improve. |
LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
526
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Posted - 2015.12.04 16:54:00 -
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Freshbrood Clan Strife wrote:It's not that fun when aur players just stomp you, and your own teammates don't help out because they're too busy hiding because they don't want to risk their stupid aur special suits.
Fun is having more game modes, quests, places to explore, fun co-op team play that matters..
Not just killing to get better gear, that you can then use to kill more and then get even better gear.. to kill more, etc..
Besides, all this grinding is negated by the sore winner who can't stand to grind and instead pays $1.99 for suits that stomp you, even though you've leveled up for 2 years to use the market suits you use.
The game isn't about team play- it's all about k/d.
AUR should be used to unlock more game modes, not overpowered gear.
AUR doesn't get you special gear blueberry
A BPO is standard gear with a fancy name.
And most people get AUR suits and weapons for free anyway. No self respecting Merc will spend money on one suit. They will buy packs or boosters. And all of it can be used by you and bought from the marketplace with ISK.
HMG is my first love
SR my Sancha
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 17:28:00 -
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I have fun and make videos, try different fits, different guns, loadouts,
>>>YouTube!<<<
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bane sieg
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
Damage LLC
468
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Posted - 2015.12.04 17:32:00 -
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The point of dust is to redline the enemy team and make them leave battle. Isn't it obvious?
Ban all the carebears in dust before they destroy the game
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Vong Gai
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
28
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Posted - 2015.12.04 17:41:00 -
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"To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"
'Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts forever!"
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
834
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Posted - 2015.12.04 17:44:00 -
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OP:
Options --> Controls --> X,Y Sensitivity. Maybe fiddling with yourself will ease the frustration.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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bane sieg
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
Damage LLC
468
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Posted - 2015.12.04 18:35:00 -
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Vong Gai wrote:"To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"
See, this guy gets it
Ban all the carebears in dust before they destroy the game
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Avallo Kantor
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 19:05:00 -
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Honestly I just like playing the game.
That said, I'm a bit too busy to get to play games much as I mostly spend my time at work. So it's very hard for me to get "tired" of the game because I simply can't log on except for once or so a week. Sometimes less.
I find the core principals of fitting a suit just how you want it, messing around with those, and then getting to field test them against others to be fun.
I like running STD fits even though I have the skill and ISK to run better. Mostly because it's nice to know that I can run about 100 suits for the equivalent of one session of play (2 -3 matches).
Quite simply, I find the game fun.
"Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 19:16:00 -
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I played on the Amarr FW side today in an M-I Assault and I had a blast.
Fighting for the Amarr... with the enemies' equipment. 
What... 1.3, when?
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SOGZ PANDA
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
161
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Posted - 2015.12.04 23:20:00 -
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There was a point to dust514....................Back in 2010
Now it goes in the category of buggy, poorly developed lobby shooter, that just happens to have an interesting skill tree system.
That also have devs that go silent for months on end.
dust is life...
... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2015.12.05 04:09:00 -
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Assuming Dust has any kind of future on newer platforms, it has a point.
Unfortunately this is a large assumption indeed.
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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