DUST Search - Decrease The Time Of Armor Hardener Module Activation

Summa Militum wrote:

Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:

Mmmm.....The problem is double hardened. Make it so we can only got one hardener.

It's quite easy to destroy tanks with only one. You are right about the slag jetting part but (idk if you tank or not) Thad part of the tank survival procedure, which involves firstly taking out the treat. The reason it's op is again cuz 2 hardeners. If we were to be restricted to 1, AV to tabks would be much more balanced and there would be a better change of infantry wiping out tanks.

I have been destroyed with team work. (4swarmandos all locked in and killed me).

It shouldn't take 1 person to destroy a well fitted 1m isk tank but they shouldn't be invincible to more than 2 AV-ers.

It, again, all comes down to the double hardened fitting.

I disagree that 1 person shouldn't be able to take out a tank. If I hop on top of a tank and he starts moving I should move with the tank since I am standing on top of it.

I should be able to hop on top of a tank, throw down a nanohive, and then repeatedly throw AV grenades down on the tank until it either blows up or the person driving the tank gets out to try to kill me. **** this easy mode ********.

My issue with a tank earlier today was within a different scenario though. I ran up behind a tank and hit it with three AV grenades. The tank took substantial damage then drove off about 30 meters in one direction while I ran to a supply depot about 20 meters in the opposite direction to restock my AV grenades.

When I went back after the tank I noticed his hardener was activated so I waited for the hardener to die down before engaging again. Finally when the hardener deactivated I go up to attack the tank just to find out that the tank was able to repair all of its armor during the timeframe of the hardener being activated. I hit the tank with 3 more AV grenades and the tank drove off about another 30 meters.

The entire time this is happening the tank is slaughtering my teammates who were at that particular objective point.

Now I find myself in the situation where the Supply Depot is 50 meters away from me with the tank being 80 meters from it; that's 130 meters I have to quickly travel in enough time to attack the tank again before he is able to reactivate the hardener.

This is ********.


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sullen maximus Deadspace Knights 14	Posted - 2015.12.09 23:04:00 - [1] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Mmmm.....The problem is double hardened. Make it so we can only got one hardener. It's quite easy to destroy tanks with only one. You are right about the slag jetting part but (idk if you tank or not) Thad part of the tank survival procedure, which involves firstly taking out the treat. The reason it's op is again cuz 2 hardeners. If we were to be restricted to 1, AV to tabks would be much more balanced and there would be a better change of infantry wiping out tanks. I have been destroyed with team work. (4swarmandos all locked in and killed me). It shouldn't take 1 person to destroy a well fitted 1m isk tank but they shouldn't be invincible to more than 2 AV-ers. It, again, all comes down to the double hardened fitting. I disagree that 1 person shouldn't be able to take out a tank. If I hop on top of a tank and he starts moving I should move with the tank since I am standing on top of it. I should be able to hop on top of a tank, throw down a nanohive, and then repeatedly throw AV grenades down on the tank until it either blows up or the person driving the tank gets out to try to kill me. ** this easy mode ****. My issue with a tank earlier today was within a different scenario though. I ran up behind a tank and hit it with three AV grenades. The tank took substantial damage then drove off about 30 meters in one direction while I ran to a supply depot about 20 meters in the opposite direction to restock my AV grenades. When I went back after the tank I noticed his hardener was activated so I waited for the hardener to die down before engaging again. Finally when the hardener deactivated I go up to attack the tank just to find out that the tank was able to repair all of its armor during the timeframe of the hardener being activated. I hit the tank with 3 more AV grenades and the tank drove off about another 30 meters. The entire time this is happening the tank is slaughtering my teammates who were at that particular objective point. Now I find myself in the situation where the Supply Depot is 50 meters away from me with the tank being 80 meters from it; that's 130 meters I have to quickly travel in enough time to attack the tank again before he is able to reactivate the hardener. This is ******. It's a tank.....if he dies it will take 5 games to make back what the one vehicle cost.... so no you in your lone suit shouldn't be able to single handed take it out.
sullen maximus Deadspace Knights 14	Posted - 2015.12.09 23:05:00 - [2] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Oh snap! This thread is still going. I readjusted how I attack tanks so my stance on decreasing the activation time for Armor Hardener Modules no longer applies (I might resurrect my original opinion later on when I get more experience but for now it's dead to me). Now I think my issue is with the quick acceleration tanks have when they go from not moving at all to moving but until I find out whether or not the quick acceleration is caused by a module I'm not going to harp on this one too much. Plus, let's be honest; the root cause of all my issues with tanks is with other people on my team not having a class fitted with AV Grenades that they can use to help me take down a tank and the fact that most people seem to try to avoid tanks instead of going after to destroy them. I have an 'APEX' and a 'Proto' fit appropriately named Fk You Tank. I wish for more people to have fittings designed around the idea of flanking up on tanks and destroying them. Shoving AV Grenades and a Plasma Cannon up a tanks @$$ (the rear of the tank is where the weak spot is at) is very effective for one person to destroy or at least scare off a tank; two people shoving AV Grenades and a Plasma Cannon up a tanks @$$ will destroy almost any Proto Tank. it's called an overdrive module. if it's a gallente tank those things don't turn or accelerate fast at all. So if you're seeing them do this it's all module.