DUST Search - So when are swarms getting the right nurf

Bax Zanith wrote:

ShamelessALT wrote:

deezy dabest wrote:

I really wish I had the battle from last night on film.

Domination on the table top map. (Line Harvest I believe is the name)

Dude was just wrecking our team. Had total control over the letter by his self.

The only time he finally retreated was with 3 A/V going after him me being one in full proto.

Even on that retreat he was back in under a minute.

The only way me and my squad lead finally took him out was by coordinating a flux orbital on him while I was locked with pro swarms and releasing them at the same time the OB went off.

How is that not broke?

1 person holding down the entire match against 12 - 13 people actually fighting on the enemy team even with multiple people teaming up on him. We ended up winning the match by cloning them once the tank was finally taken care of by 2 people one in full pro A/V and one firing and 3k point orbital.

SERIOUSLY????

Simple... scrubs love their "I win" buttons and god help you if you try to take them away.

Do you remember a time when tanks were an "I win" button? You probably don't. Their once was a time when someone could AFK in a militia tank, and if someone with proto level swarms showed up, they didn't really have much of a chance to destroy that AFKing militia tank unless there was three guys with proto swarms.

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Genral69 death Only Bitche's 877	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:13:00 - [1] - Quote Changing the lock on range was not what was needed, for a Ds swarms are still IMPOSSIBLE to dough. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Union118 TH3 STRUGGL3 1	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:16:00 - [2] - Quote Do they need more dmg or less. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy 2	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:18:00 - [3] - Quote Union118 wrote: Do they need more dmg or less. Against ADS i thing little more damage. Or Slow DSs down. *"Who is postapo?!"*
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:19:00 - [4] - Quote Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. actions speak louder then words.
Keister Shrapnel K-Mart 101	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:19:00 - [5] - Quote Maybe less turn radius or longer lock-on time? Personally, I want to see all ADS crash & burn. Officially graduated from Noob to Scrub
Vicious Minotaur 3	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:27:00 - [6] - Quote This is intended. Swarms are impossible to dough because they aren't bread. Minotaur Master Race Violently penetrating you since ca 84 BCE. ( -í° -£-û -í°)
Worthless Target Extra Padding 81	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:31:00 - [7] - Quote The only logical thing to do is reduce lock on range to 30m, reduce damage to 1 damage per missile, and reduce max ammo capacity. Embrace the stomp
Genral69 death Only Bitche's 878	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:34:00 - [8] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. Can't u read, I said the range nurf was not what was needed https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Genral69 death Only Bitche's 878	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:38:00 - [9] - Quote Lock on time and range is fine but they are impossible to dough, u can be flyi g a full speed and make a serouisy tight turn (nearly crashing) but no they damn things will follow u to Hell if needed https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Genral69 death Only Bitche's 878	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:39:00 - [10] - Quote Union118 wrote: Do they need more dmg or less. Neither https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread

Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.29 21:42:00 - [11] - Quote I saw teamwork today. 4 swarmmandos all locked onto me and destroyed my tank. CEO of T-W-L Gallente Loyalist GALLENTE!!! FREEDOM!!! QUAFE!!!
Keister Shrapnel K-Mart 102	Posted - 2015.11.29 22:11:00 - [12] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: I saw teamwork today. 4 swarmmandos all locked onto me and destroyed my tank. Teamwork........ Gonna go Google that Officially graduated from Noob to Scrub
Genral69 death Only Bitche's 878	Posted - 2015.11.29 22:52:00 - [13] - Quote Thanks for derailing yet another post guys https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Union118 TH3 STRUGGL3 1	Posted - 2015.11.29 22:59:00 - [14] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Thanks for derailing yet another post guys We love you bro. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Genral69 death Only Bitche's 878	Posted - 2015.11.29 23:06:00 - [15] - Quote Union118 wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Thanks for derailing yet another post guys We love you bro. But ya leaving bra https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Radiant Pancake3 2	Posted - 2015.11.29 23:10:00 - [16] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Thanks for derailing yet another post guys Tis what I do... "Pancake is a corp hopping forum troll, that's his excuse." - bane sieg Min Loyalist
Genral69 death Only Bitche's 878	Posted - 2015.11.29 23:22:00 - [17] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Thanks for derailing yet another post guys Tis what I do... And thus why we have so many problems with dust https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y Shadow of Dust 1	Posted - 2015.11.29 23:28:00 - [18] - Quote It should require you to maintain lock on, rather than a fire-and-forget no skill weapon :/ The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Genral69 death Only Bitche's 878	Posted - 2015.11.29 23:31:00 - [19] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: It should require you to maintain lock on, rather than a fire-and-forget no skill weapon :/ Altho I like the idea I'm not sure if it's possible as every weapon. Automatically reloads when u fire your last shot https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Radiant Pancake3 2	Posted - 2015.11.29 23:32:00 - [20] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Thanks for derailing yet another post guys Tis what I do... And thus why we have so many problems with dust Meh... "Pancake is a corp hopping forum troll, that's his excuse." - bane sieg Min Loyalist

Dreis ShadowWeaver Dead Man's Game 8	Posted - 2015.11.29 23:53:00 - [21] - Quote I think one fundamental issue with ADS is the flight controls. You cannot aim your reticle independently of vehicle movement, thus destabilising your ADS whilst trying to aim. Then the Swarms knock you so far off balance that you can end up facing the other way. The problem is that the ADS CANNOT counter Swarms. There is simply no counter, unless you count running away. It is almost impossible to kill a Swarmer before they kill you. You can maybe take two Swarm volleys if you're hardened before you NEED to GTFO. Swarms don't seem like such an issue when I'm Tanking, and that's because you can actually counter them. Swarms don't knock you around and you can actually aim and move independently from each other. In lieu of actually improving the flight mechanisms, I propose an active module that jamms Swarm Lock-On, or extends the Lock-On time. I'm recalling my experiences playing Battlefield 4. You got a warning when you were being Locked-On to, and you could fire off some flares that would scramble the Lock-On before it could be completed, or you could do something else that interrupted the missiles' targeted flight path. Very simply, what ADS' need is a way to counter Swarms. I think this needs to be a new addition, rather than a single change to Swarm stats. RIP Nova Knifers United
JudgeIsABadPilot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 106	Posted - 2015.11.29 23:57:00 - [22] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. lol need more than MLT swarms to take out a tank. I've been boycotting this game for many months. You're all late to the party.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y Shadow of Dust 1	Posted - 2015.11.30 00:07:00 - [23] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: It should require you to maintain lock on, rather than a fire-and-forget no skill weapon :/ Altho I like the idea I'm not sure if it's possible as every weapon. Automatically reloads when u fire your last shot Maintaining a center of screen would still be nice, have a lock indicator in the middle of the screen while the weapon is out. The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Dreis ShadowWeaver Dead Man's Game 8	Posted - 2015.11.30 02:37:00 - [24] - Quote I change my mind; the greatest difficulty any pilot faces is that playing any more than 2 games makes the FPS literally unplayable. RIP Nova Knifers United
dzizur Nos Nothi 1	Posted - 2015.11.30 09:08:00 - [25] - Quote how about lower speed of swarms? So you can actually run away from them while going full speed..
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.30 09:44:00 - [26] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. Can't u read, I said the range nurf was not what was needed why would i waste my time reading more nonsense from some random noob crying about swarms. actions speak louder then words.
duster 35000 657	Posted - 2015.11.30 09:46:00 - [27] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. you are the cancer killing vehicle gameplay in every game Your light lockon auto tracking weapon should not have a high power level We'll bang ok? Shitposting at level 5 proficiency 5
CUSE TOWN333 Capital Acquisitions LLC 3	Posted - 2015.11.30 20:17:00 - [28] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. you are the cancer killing vehicle gameplay in every game Your light lockon auto tracking weapon should not have a high power level your 4000 armor tank should not have a high power blaster turret that rips through infantry in a few shoots but it does. No one likes tanks no on likes ADSes and i can tell vehicle people Don't like swarms but this is life so deal with it. actions speak louder then words.
Dreis ShadowWeaver Dead Man's Game 8	Posted - 2015.11.30 21:34:00 - [29] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: duster 35000 wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. you are the cancer killing vehicle gameplay in every game Your light lockon auto tracking weapon should not have a high power level your 4000 armor tank should not have a high power blaster turret that rips through infantry in a few shoots but it does. No one likes tanks no on likes ADSes and i can tell vehicle people Don't like swarms but this is life so deal with it. You are wrong, but I can't be bothered to type out a long ranty response, so here's a picture of a chicken: Linky RIP Nova Knifers United
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San 1	Posted - 2015.12.01 01:23:00 - [30] - Quote range nerf to swarm was because 1 swarm denies ads's, 2 swarmers automatically kill all ads's before they can fly away. not joking, 1 swarmer easily gets all 3 volleys off before ads's can get away, reducing any ads's to <1000 hp, meaning any 1 hit of av(excluding 1 mlt swarm hit) combined with a proto swarmer will always kill an ads. Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3 Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.

duster 35000 659	Posted - 2015.12.01 02:09:00 - [31] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: duster 35000 wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. you are the cancer killing vehicle gameplay in every game Your light lockon auto tracking weapon should not have a high power level your 4000 armor tank should not have a high power blaster turret that rips through infantry in a few shots but it does. No one likes tanks no on likes ADSes and i can tell vehicle people Don't like swarms but this is life so deal with it. are you a newfag? blaster turrets have horrendous accuracy & are not a threat We'll bang ok? Shitposting at level 5 proficiency 5
Suzy Saigon Shining Flame Amarr Empire 51	Posted - 2015.12.01 02:23:00 - [32] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: duster 35000 wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Yes nerf swarms so tanks can drive around in the middle of the map farming infantry all day long. you are the cancer killing vehicle gameplay in every game Your light lockon auto tracking weapon should not have a high power level your 4000 armor tank should not have a high power blaster turret that rips through infantry in a few shots but it does. No one likes tanks no on likes ADSes and i can tell vehicle people Don't like swarms but this is life so deal with it. are you a newfag? blaster turrets have horrendous accuracy & are not a threat Duna2002
Apoleon II Rooky rooks 20	Posted - 2015.12.01 02:44:00 - [33] - Quote Whhyyyyyy???? Why all the people want to nerf stuff???, thanks tho this people the game got nerfed itself Sorry for my bad english :$
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 4	Posted - 2015.12.01 02:59:00 - [34] - Quote I really wish I had the battle from last night on film. Domination on the table top map. (Line Harvest I believe is the name) Dude was just wrecking our team. Had total control over the letter by his self. The only time he finally retreated was with 3 A/V going after him me being one in full proto. Even on that retreat he was back in under a minute. The only way me and my squad lead finally took him out was by coordinating a flux orbital on him while I was locked with pro swarms and releasing them at the same time the OB went off. How is that not broke? 1 person holding down the entire match against 12 - 13 people actually fighting on the enemy team even with multiple people teaming up on him. We ended up winning the match by cloning them once the tank was finally taken care of by 2 people one in full pro A/V and one firing and 3k point orbital. SERIOUSLY???? Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 132	Posted - 2015.12.01 06:37:00 - [35] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: I really wish I had the battle from last night on film. Domination on the table top map. (Line Harvest I believe is the name) Dude was just wrecking our team. Had total control over the letter by his self. The only time he finally retreated was with 3 A/V going after him me being one in full proto. Even on that retreat he was back in under a minute. The only way me and my squad lead finally took him out was by coordinating a flux orbital on him while I was locked with pro swarms and releasing them at the same time the OB went off. How is that not broke? 1 person holding down the entire match against 12 - 13 people actually fighting on the enemy team even with multiple people teaming up on him. We ended up winning the match by cloning them once the tank was finally taken care of by 2 people one in full pro A/V and one firing and 3k point orbital. SERIOUSLY???? Simple... scrubs love their "I win" buttons and god help you if you try to take them away. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine...
DDx77 WarRavens Imperium Eden 435	Posted - 2015.12.01 07:16:00 - [36] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Changing the lock on range was not what was needed, for a Ds swarms are still IMPOSSIBLE to dough. --- I've been wondering lately if it would be good or really bad to super- buff swarms HP, speed, lock on, AND their splash damage But allow them to be shot down by certain projectile weapons (small blaster, hmg, CR, and maybe the Laser rifle too) So theyre more dangerous but maybe pilots with a good gunner or ground support can shoot some of them down. The splash damage could affect infantry and gunners to close to the blast
Apocalyptic Destroyer KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 537	Posted - 2015.12.01 07:35:00 - [37] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: This is intended. Swarms are impossible to dough because they aren't bread. This killed me. As for the OP refer to this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=196560 True Amarr In Disguise Vehicle Expert In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2	Posted - 2015.12.01 10:14:00 - [38] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: I really wish I had the battle from last night on film. Domination on the table top map. (Line Harvest I believe is the name) Dude was just wrecking our team. Had total control over the letter by his self. The only time he finally retreated was with 3 A/V going after him me being one in full proto. Even on that retreat he was back in under a minute. The only way me and my squad lead finally took him out was by coordinating a flux orbital on him while I was locked with pro swarms and releasing them at the same time the OB went off. How is that not broke? 1 person holding down the entire match against 12 - 13 people actually fighting on the enemy team even with multiple people teaming up on him. We ended up winning the match by cloning them once the tank was finally taken care of by 2 people one in full pro A/V and one firing and 3k point orbital. SERIOUSLY???? No, you missed the point. They spent a lot on their tank so they automatically have the right to be completely unkillable in 1v1. That's why a fully fitted officer suit is completely unkillable by a MLT plasma cannon on a free MLT suit. Oh wait.... añ¼añ+añ¦-añ¬añ+añƒañ¦-añÿañ¿añ+añ+añ¦-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ *"Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."* añ¿añ+añ¦añ¿aÑìaññañ¦añ+añ¿aÑìañºañòañ+añ¦añ+aññ-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ-añ¦añ¦añÖaÑìañù
Genral69 death Only Bitche's 882	Posted - 2015.12.01 10:38:00 - [39] - Quote DDx77 wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Changing the lock on range was not what was needed, for a Ds swarms are still IMPOSSIBLE to dough. --- I've been wondering lately if it would be good or really bad to super- buff swarms HP, speed, lock on, AND their splash damage But allow them to be shot down by certain projectile weapons (small blaster, hmg, CR, and maybe the Laser rifle too) So theyre more dangerous but maybe pilots with a good gunner or ground support can shoot some of them down. The splash damage could affect infantry and gunners to close to the blast And what about those ads pilots running away, they can't just turn and shoot them it would just kill them even faster https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Bax Zanith Sinfonia1898 242	Posted - 2015.12.01 14:33:00 - [40] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I really wish I had the battle from last night on film. Domination on the table top map. (Line Harvest I believe is the name) Dude was just wrecking our team. Had total control over the letter by his self. The only time he finally retreated was with 3 A/V going after him me being one in full proto. Even on that retreat he was back in under a minute. The only way me and my squad lead finally took him out was by coordinating a flux orbital on him while I was locked with pro swarms and releasing them at the same time the OB went off. How is that not broke? 1 person holding down the entire match against 12 - 13 people actually fighting on the enemy team even with multiple people teaming up on him. We ended up winning the match by cloning them once the tank was finally taken care of by 2 people one in full pro A/V and one firing and 3k point orbital. SERIOUSLY???? Simple... scrubs love their "I win" buttons and god help you if you try to take them away. Do you remember a time when tanks were an "I win" button? You probably don't. Their once was a time when someone could AFK in a militia tank, and if someone with proto level swarms showed up, they didn't really have much of a chance to destroy that AFKing militia tank unless there was three guys with proto swarms. "You're either the cow or the butcher."

shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.12.01 14:42:00 - [41] - Quote Problem is that turning radius Nerf will not work because swarm actually turn 90-¦ without problems. Regressed to blueberry level.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 4	Posted - 2015.12.01 14:47:00 - [42] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: ShamelessALT wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I really wish I had the battle from last night on film. Domination on the table top map. (Line Harvest I believe is the name) Dude was just wrecking our team. Had total control over the letter by his self. The only time he finally retreated was with 3 A/V going after him me being one in full proto. Even on that retreat he was back in under a minute. The only way me and my squad lead finally took him out was by coordinating a flux orbital on him while I was locked with pro swarms and releasing them at the same time the OB went off. How is that not broke? 1 person holding down the entire match against 12 - 13 people actually fighting on the enemy team even with multiple people teaming up on him. We ended up winning the match by cloning them once the tank was finally taken care of by 2 people one in full pro A/V and one firing and 3k point orbital. SERIOUSLY???? Simple... scrubs love their "I win" buttons and god help you if you try to take them away. Do you remember a time when tanks were an "I win" button? You probably don't. Their once was a time when someone could AFK in a militia tank, and if someone with proto level swarms showed up, they didn't really have much of a chance to destroy that AFKing militia tank unless there was three guys with proto swarms. You are correct about days of the past being far worse but as it stands right now tanks are still god mode unless someone pulls out an officer forge. Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 9	Posted - 2015.12.01 20:43:00 - [43] - Quote I agree. Increase luck distance and damage. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 527	Posted - 2015.12.01 21:25:00 - [44] - Quote DDx77 wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Changing the lock on range was not what was needed, for a Ds swarms are still IMPOSSIBLE to dough. --- I've been wondering lately if it would be good or really bad to super- buff swarms HP, speed, lock on, AND their splash damage But allow them to be shot down by certain projectile weapons (small blaster, hmg, CR, and maybe the Laser rifle too) So theyre more dangerous but maybe pilots with a good gunner or ground support can shoot some of them down. The splash damage could affect infantry and gunners to close to the blast Actually that would be a good conecpt being able to take the swarms out with a blaster or a lazer i say even a flux would give a reason to have guner support on the DS Moo...


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