I'd still like the effectivness of all rifles to be nerfed. Then the assault suit for that race makes its racial equivilent useful.

If you then want to use an off race weapon there would be a module (call it efficacy module or something) that would allow an off race weapon to be more effective. However, it would still not be as food as an assault with a like race rifle and the mod would not be stackable.

Personally I think there are two ways to go with this.

Either you keep the rifles as they are and extend the assault suit bonuses to all racial suits, maybe with slightly less effect. This would further encourage racial fitting at the cost of freedom. So, for example, Amarr commandos, logis, scouts and sentinels could get 3% per level heat build up reduction. Gallente commandos, logis, scouts and sentinels could get 2% rof per level on ARs.

Or, you put some of the assault suit bonuses onto the rifles themselves and reduce the assault bonuses to compensate. So for example, I'm talking about increasing AR rate of fire by 10% and reducing the assault bonus to 1% per level, and reducing scrambler and laser heat build up by 15% and reducing the assault bonus to 2% per level.

I'd still like the effectivness of all rifles to be nerfed. Then the assault suit for that race makes its racial equivilent useful.

If you then want to use an off race weapon there would be a module (call it efficacy module or something) that would allow an off race weapon to be more effective. However, it would still not be as food as an assault with a like race rifle and the mod would not be stackable.

Gallente commando with rof bonus=op

This weapon after the so called "minor" nerf is absolutely inferior to every other weapon in its class. After the recoil increase (4 times) and the heat thing, this gun is done for.

Firstly, the mlt Scr is just out of the world (but hey its mlt who cares right?). Using Scr on a suit which is not a 'maxed' out amarr assault is just dumb. Hell even on a ak.0 assault is inferior to the other maxed out assaults with their racial weapons.

Seeing how this weapon consumes the highest cpu and pg and capable of backfiring this gun is at the lowest compared to the others. Alright I get it that rail rifle and assault rifle are hybrid but what about combat rifle? Use Cr on any suit and it won't effect you, except you can maximize its potential on the mk.0 but there are no disadvantages on a non-min assault suit. This applies to every other weapon but scr (Not including LR here).

The reason why this gun was destroyed because ccp were helpless against the turbo controller users. But they obviously neglected the fact that what happens to the players who don't use turbo. Nothing they just need to either deal with it or buy a respec to chase Fotm. I don't understand why you would buff the shield and nerf Scr, is it because of those caldari users who cried so much? Or those few player who can't use the scrambler themselves but hate dying to it. <- this mentality is the problem and ccp pampers such idiots.

Ps: Idc about those few people who will now rush up with their dumb stats and defend this unfair nerf. Ask yourselves how often do you even see this gun in the feed? Practically never. It just sucks to be a loyal amarr assault. Also ascr and scr are different, Ascr cannot act as a substitute for Scr.

My point here is, just return the scr back to how it was before its recent nerf.

~Sincerely, a helpless amarr loyalist.

I honestly see bigger issue with galass+Ar combo.
I using AScR and i love that rifle, i will try semi version and i will tell you ;)

Like it or not the scr was op. Period. They should have changed it to a per shot rather than a per second heatbuildup first, but I doubt that would have fixed everything. The fact it had to be merged four times before it stopped dominating the feeds lends veracity to the fact that it was op.
Now about that shield comment and qqing. Shields were objectively worse than armor for the entirety of the game, really. They needed a buff, accusing people of qqing while in the same breath refusing to look at stats reveals yourself as a qqing hyppocrit. Further if you are an "amaar" loyalist, why was the first part of your post lamenting the fact that you couldn't effectively fit it on other suits?
And finally blaming it on herds of people unable to use the rifle themselves bit hate dying blah blah pampering blah blah, yeah that's wrong because it was needed specifically because the majority of people were using it, and dominating with it, but here you are asking to be pampered back up to the point where you can use the fotm weapon because you miss being fotm. Go away troll...

I still use it because I'm almost maxed on it. But for it to really work well I need 2 krins, my prof 3, and warbarge damage is at 4. It still melts shields but really you need to hit a secondary for armor, and that sucks!

I think all of the rifles have had mechanical issues.

Look at how few actually use ADS when shooting. Unless you are at really long distances, in Dust, it is always better to hipfire nearly every rifle in the game.

The CR has always been too accurate with hipfire, as have others, and the kick has largely been irrelevant.

These should be big considerations when choosing weaponry, yet in Dust they are almost inconsequential.

The ScR should never have been that accurate with hipfire. The RoF was a secondary problem IMO. Especially given the ScR was supposed to be stronger at a distance than in CQC (similar issue for the CR).

I hate how just after foxfour was released, I got a Quafe scrambler rifle. -_-

join the club!

quafe PLC, scrambler and angel cartel MN-L skin i can't faking trade because of our "developers"

The SCR was insanely effective on the Amarr assault previously and okay on other suits. This was not a healthy balance.

The current SCR is meh on the Amarr assault and poor on other suits. This is not a healthy balance.

The Amarr assault bonus was easily one of the most powerful bonuses in the game and it skewed the balance for the SCR as a whole. It would be better to have gentler bonuses and slightly better inherent stats on the SCR itself.

I reskilled recently in the AK.0 assault suit, and the scrambler still good (if you don't kill with this suit, the scrambler is not for you).

But I have to agree with the fact that the scrambler is hard, and maybe useless in other suits (assault version is little usable, but normal version not at all).

So currently, skill amarr assault, or don't play with it lol.

It's called a DMG mod

Right, because scouts and logis shouldn't be able to kill...

Why do lasers have kick?

#Assault514

Yeah that warbarge dmg % was a great idea Pay-to-win implementation much?

Yes, Gal assault RoF bonus isn't what players are used to. I still think the AR should just be equally strong against armor/shield due to CQC factor. The assault bonus should've been CQC related, and just added 1% dmg per level flat to armor/shield. the RoF increase should've went to the weapon itself since a dmg buff is clearly out of the question.

The Scrambler rifle, as I have said so many times, just needed a dmg nerf. NOOO! We wan't to go around the mountain to go down the street?! Now all you got is confusion?! The Scrambler rifle was shredding everything moving before the nerf. Some sort of nerf was coming, but it should've been more along the lines of dmg. No, CCP has all but inadvertently admitted defeat to the modders that play this game. Nothing happens to cheaters in this game. I tried guys, but Sony probably won't back CCP so CCP is left nerfing and buffing weapons endlessly?!

So yes, the modded controller users will continue to pad their KD, and get your weapons unjustifiably nerfed every other month or so.

AR nerf is coming don't worry, but now you know how we felt when the scrambler, a shield based weapon, was wrecking our armor based suits and we had no weapon to counter. AR without Assault bonus is still sh*t so now there's a gal assault on every corner smh?!

I've started playing eve,and man I don't know how dust got so far removed?? Eve is a great game with very little really going wrong there, but dust is BARELY in the Eve universe smh?!

My advice? Change tactics, use the LR, play eve, etc. Just don't ask about rifle balance in the forums because CCP will answer you by focusing on this, and not fixing the d*mn game?!