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rpastry
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.16 10:46:00 -
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despite getting some buffs I never see them on the battlefield, they still seem a bit pointless...
perhaps some suit bonus between those of their specialist versions e.g. basic medium gets 2% per level bonus from assault and 2% from logi (as opposed to the 5% bonuses the specialists get).
so at max level a Min basic would get 10% cpu/pg equip, 10% rep tool range from logi. 10%clip size and 10% light wep/grenade fitting from assault.
I dont think this would result in it becoming FOTM but something better than what it is.
Heavy suits could get 1%dmg bonus for racial weapons and 1% resists to splash/opposite faction racials IE Min heavy proto gets 5% dmg bonus with projectiles, 5% splash resist and 5% laser/scrambler resist.
Light basics I dont know, they are pretty much completely pointless from what I can see and as there is still no pilot suit they would still be in limbo.
I'd bring in pilot suits as being necessary to operate DS or HAV. Sidearm only (like IRL). Suit level required to be equal to vehicle level.
Basic light could then have capability to operate DS/HAV 1 tier less than their level (IE proto suit, advanced vehicle etc.) and lower suit bonuses from scout.
LAV still operable by anyone, as IRL we can all drive a car, but not many can drive a tank/helicopter.
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duster 35000
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Posted - 2015.11.16 10:57:00 -
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We'll bang ok?
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.16 12:12:00 -
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Basic mediums need the same hp as assault suits or they will forever be a coffin for new players. |
trooper7041
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.16 12:17:00 -
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But I think the niche they fill is that they are CHEAP. I'm not defending the basics though - I can't understand why anyone would skill into any basic fit passed lvl 3
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.11.16 12:55:00 -
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I've seen more proto basic frames lately...
"Pancake is a corp hopping forum troll, that's his excuse." - bane sieg
Min Loyalist
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Union118
TH3 STRUGGL3
965
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Posted - 2015.11.16 13:47:00 -
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I use basics and if i run out of them i use starter fits.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Keister Shrapnel
K-Mart
17
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Posted - 2015.11.16 16:02:00 -
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I often use basic AM/GA medium loadouts. I like the price and the additional equipment slot
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
1
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Posted - 2015.11.16 16:14:00 -
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I start almost every pub match in a Medium G/1. I find the two eq. slots very useful. Links and scans to set up my squad/ team in the early stages. Depending on how it progresses I may even run the entire match with it.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.11.16 16:28:00 -
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I do when I run min ass with md and scr p.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Imperium Eden
4
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Posted - 2015.11.16 17:12:00 -
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Basic suits fill a problem that doesn't really exist anymore.
You need like 392k SP to get into 'Specialized' suits. When the cap was 190,400, that simply was not going to happen for a while. There are better things to get; non-militia modules/weapon for example. Now the cap is 750k. In one week, you can safely get to Basic suits and still have some left over for non-militia modules.
The time gap between Start suits into Assault suit is pretty small at this point.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.11.16 17:18:00 -
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Basic mediums have that two equip going on. I have a decent trooper with needle and uplink I use quite a bit.
Shoot, bring in backup, rez said backup when they die.
Pro cal med has a pretty freaking slick skin on it as do a few other basic pro frames.
Except cal H.... Adv and pro still look like marshmellowman or Michelin man... Oooogly
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Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
509
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Posted - 2015.11.16 17:40:00 -
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Basic Heavy is a go-to for me. Cost less than the sentinel and it's not like I'm missing out on a bonus by not using my Amarr sentinel.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
9
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Posted - 2015.11.16 21:10:00 -
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The basic light is supposed to be slower than scout, but with more health.
I think it is currently slower, but has the same health. I think scouts should have 1 equipment again and the basics 2.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.11.16 21:18:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:The basic light is supposed to be slower than scout, but with more health.
I think it is currently slower, but has the same health. I think scouts should have 1 equipment again and the basics 2. So nerf scouts more for a basic suit that gets no bonuses and will continue to be disused?
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.11.16 21:20:00 -
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I used the milita caldari heavy frame to run a sort of 'heavy assult class' for like 9k or less isk.
Its just a energizer/rechargers high slot with milita sheild extender bpos for almost 700 sheilds that regen fairly fast.
The complex regulator was the most expensive item. Milita assault rifle bpo. Milita scrambler pistol bpo.
I used that suit for sustained firefights and to teach myself to not waste ammo and to be more effective with what I have and when to relaod or not.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
671
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Posted - 2015.11.16 21:24:00 -
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bpo milta Amarr heavy skinweave I think of it as the old T2 sheild Heavy in closed beta |
Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
521
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Posted - 2015.11.16 21:29:00 -
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rpastry wrote:despite getting some buffs I never see them on the battlefield, they still seem a bit pointless...
perhaps some suit bonus between those of their specialist versions e.g. basic medium gets 2% per level bonus from assault and 2% from logi (as opposed to the 5% bonuses the specialists get).
so at max level a Min basic would get 10% cpu/pg equip, 10% rep tool range from logi. 10%clip size and 10% light wep/grenade fitting from assault.
I dont think this would result in it becoming FOTM but something better than what it is.
Heavy suits could get 1%dmg bonus for racial weapons and 1% resists to splash/opposite faction racials IE Min heavy proto gets 5% dmg bonus with projectiles, 5% splash resist and 5% laser/scrambler resist.
Light basics I dont know, they are pretty much completely pointless from what I can see and as there is still no pilot suit they would still be in limbo.
I'd bring in pilot suits as being necessary to operate DS or HAV. Sidearm only (like IRL). Suit level required to be equal to vehicle level.
Basic light could then have capability to operate DS/HAV 1 tier less than their level (IE proto suit, advanced vehicle etc.) and lower suit bonuses from scout.
LAV still operable by anyone, as IRL we can all drive a car, but not many can drive a tank/helicopter.
they are fun to use and considering i got about 600 of them why not, its fun having a min aslt with 2 equip slots and 5 high 4 lows
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