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Pagl1u M warravens 2	Posted - 2015.11.14 04:18:00 - [1] - Quote The Problem: Roof camping is, at the moment, one of the things that is ruining users experience on Dust. It actually makes battles boring and frustrating for everyone. 9/10 of the matches are full of roofcampers. One team roof camps and the other defend the letter from the ground: no one has fun. Why is roof camping so difficult to counter? Roof in Dust are flat, it is easy for roof caers to hide from shooters on the ground. Roof are reachable only with Dropships. Roof campers spam uplinks so they can keep camping. Possible fix to the problem: Uplinks cant be placed on roofs. This is so simple. Sign up if you hate what roof camping is doing to our matches. Sign up if you want a better Dust. Assault since open beta.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 518	Posted - 2015.11.14 04:32:00 - [2] - Quote HI im pocket Rocket and i approve this message Moo...
Kid Chilled Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 141	Posted - 2015.11.14 04:44:00 - [3] - Quote I approve. Why do you always make me the flavor CCP?
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.11.14 05:11:00 - [4] - Quote Petitions are passe. You need to start yourself a boycott, perhaps a girlcott according to Joseph. Those are the in thing now. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
JOSHUA621 BRADLEY ICE-9 PR0JECT Evil Syndicate Alliance. 611	Posted - 2015.11.14 07:07:00 - [5] - Quote Signed. "Be Ready for the next Battle." _Claire Farron PRO MinLogi 21/9/3 6492wp Pro GalAssault 63/19/2 3900
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.11.14 07:29:00 - [6] - Quote Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.11.14 07:45:00 - [7] - Quote Signed with glad heart. I have been intending to write a colossal thread with full reasonings about this issue but haven't had the time. +1 for this compact thread. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.11.14 07:52:00 - [8] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. It's the campaign to make this game more like a COD style shooter . The talk about removing CRU's and roof tops have started . Don't like to get CRU camped then don't spawn at the one that's being camped , don't like " rooftop camping " then I would do what you suggested and get a DS and handle it , I play solo and I do it so I'm sure anyone can . All this whining is making me sick , there should be a petition to remove these lazy ass players that are trying to make this game into COD and the strange part about it is , most of these same run in well known corps and in squads . They already have the number advantage so I just don't get it . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Vicious Minotaur 3	Posted - 2015.11.14 08:08:00 - [9] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: ... I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. ... A couple things, off the top of my amazing Minotaur head: Militia drop ships are basically coffins. Dropships are implemented terribly. Flying controls are sub-par. Roof campers often have Forge Guns. Some have swarms. Those weapons touch dropships inappropriately like Poseidon did to my mum. Sometimes half the team or more is on the roof. With mass drivers doing explosive spam. But hey, I hear you. Assaulting a rooftop and dislodging the campers is simple business. Especially if you ignore a multitude of factors, because those are kinda messy. (and none of that even touches upon the issues of matchmaking, team coordination, and the general turd-iness of DUST that are contributing factors) Anyway, roof camping would be less annoying if maps were *actually designed with vertical gameplay in mind* (Hint hint, CCP). Because redesigning maps will never happen, ever ever ever (not even in a billion years), I say "fck it" and let things be. Campers are easy enough to forge gun off high places, anyway. Blapping people is fun. Minotaur Master Race Violently penetrating you since ca 84 BCE. ( -í° -£-û -í°)
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.11.14 08:19:00 - [10] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. It's the campaign to make this game more like a COD style shooter . The talk about removing CRU's and roof tops have started . Don't like to get CRU camped then don't spawn at the one that's being camped , don't like " rooftop camping " then I would do what you suggested and get a DS and handle it , I play solo and I do it so I'm sure anyone can . All this whining is making me sick , there should be a petition to remove these lazy ass players that are trying to make this game into COD and the strange part about it is , most of these same run in well known corps and in squads . They already have the number advantage so I just don't get it . I haven't played dust in about a week... Actually picked up black ops 3. Maps are tiny, barely bigger than a small socket. TTK is about like your running an scout with nothing in your slots and everyone is running a combat rifle. Cautious movement is pointless since you're much better rewarded for going 25-15 than you would for going 15-0. I also run solo mostly in dust. Anyone dumb enuf to be cru camped more than once per round deserves it, and if a squad can't handle some roof campers they are more than pathetic. My personal feeling is dust will never be fair/balanced and everyone under 50 million sp seems to want everyone to be limited to basic or milita. Dusts biggest problems are its ancient platform ( ps4 is two years old for christ's sake ) and its tiny playerbase ( might have somthing to do with zero advertising ).

HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.11.14 08:28:00 - [11] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: ... I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. ... A couple things, off the top of my amazing Minotaur head: Militia drop ships are basically coffins. Dropships are implemented terribly. Flying controls are sub-par. Roof campers often have Forge Guns. Some have swarms. Those weapons touch dropships inappropriately like Poseidon did to my mum. Sometimes half the team or more is on the roof. With mass drivers doing explosive spam. But hey, I hear you. Assaulting a rooftop and dislodging the campers is simple business. Especially if you ignore a multitude of factors, because those are kinda messy. (and none of that even touches upon the issues of matchmaking, team coordination, and the general turd-iness of DUST that are contributing factors) Anyway, roof camping would be less annoying if maps were *actually designed with vertical gameplay in mind* (Hint hint, CCP). Because redesigning maps will never happen, ever ever ever (not even in a billion years), I say "fck it" and let things be. Campers are easy enough to forge gun off high places, anyway. Blapping people is fun. Milita ds is actually quit appropriate in most situations... Add even one milita hardener to a gorgon and ill get on any roof with less than two decent forgers on it... Might even squish a few on the landing ( my personal road kill record was 4 in about 2 seconds coming in sideways ).
Pagl1u M WarRavens 2	Posted - 2015.11.14 10:49:00 - [12] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: [quote=HOWDIDHEKILLME]... I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. It is not that simple. There are two different dropships: ADS: they require million of SP. You cant ask everyone to skill into them. Mlt dropship: they are free for all, so they might look like a good option. Even if the roof is full of swarmers and forgers it is not impossible to land on it before they kill you. But then? You will find yourself on a roof, with 5 friends (the maximum you can bring with you) or more likely 3 friends because of sqad capacity, against all the campers on the roof. Also everyone there knows you just landed so is ready to fight and to respawn again and fight again. Landing on a roof to clean it from campers is usually a suicide attempt that doesnt obtain any result 9/10. Also We are not talking about how people should counter it or how good and smart I am. We are talking about a thing that is clearly a problem forDust gameplay, and I cant understand how you cannot agree with that. Does anyone actually like roof camping? Assault since open beta.
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.11.14 22:25:00 - [13] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: The Problem: Roof camping is, at the moment, one of the things that is ruining users experience on Dust. It actually makes battles boring and frustrating for everyone. 9/10 of the matches are full of roofcampers. One team roof camps and the other defend the letter from the ground: no one has fun. Why is roof camping so difficult to counter? Roof in Dust are flat, it is easy for roof caers to hide from shooters on the ground. Roof are reachable only with Dropships. Roof campers spam uplinks so they can keep camping. Possible fix to the problem: Uplinks cant be placed on roofs. This is so simple. Sign up if you hate what roof camping is doing to our matches. Sign up if you want a better Dust. I believe we have multiple things in the game designed for this issue. 1.flux nades 2.mass drivers 3.drop ships 4.orbital strikes of the flux and laser variety. 5.sniper rifles Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 00:29:00 - [14] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: [quote=HOWDIDHEKILLME]... I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. It is not that simple. There are two different dropships: ADS: they require million of SP. You cant ask everyone to skill into them. Mlt dropship: they are free for all, so they might look like a good option. Even if the roof is full of swarmers and forgers it is not impossible to land on it before they kill you. But then? You will find yourself on a roof, with 5 friends (the maximum you can bring with you) or more likely 3 friends because of sqad capacity, against all the campers on the roof. Also everyone there knows you just landed so is ready to fight and to respawn again and fight again. Landing on a roof to clean it from campers is usually a suicide attempt that doesnt obtain any result 9/10. Also We are not talking about how people should counter it or how good and smart I am. We are talking about a thing that is clearly a problem forDust gameplay, and I cant understand how you cannot agree with that. Does anyone actually like roof camping? It is that simple... When I do it solo I'm effective at least 50% of the time so a squad should be able to do it without any problem. It's only a problem for people who want no variety in tactics. High ground has been a basic fighting strategy for thousands of years. You can't win camping from the roof. It would be simple to just remove drop ships... No more camping right? Next remove tanks and jeeps. Next remove everything but basic gear. Now we have c.o.d. with 1% of the playerbase and more glitches. Enjoy.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 00:52:00 - [15] - Quote I really don't see the problem here. Firstly, rooftop camping rarely actually wins games as objectives aren't on roofs. Secondly there are plenty of counters available in game. Militia dropships are perfectly capable of landing on roofs filled with forge gunners and swarm launchers. The dropship doesn't have to survive, it just has to get you on the roof. Ok, so you will struggle solo against lots of enemies. In theory you should have multiple people flying to take out the campers. There's no real excuse not to. Higher SP solo players can clear roofs with an assault dropship. Even if you can't kill everyone, you can harass them pretty well with an ADS. Solo players can also use sniper rifles very effectively against roof tops. Now, I think sniper rifles should be buffed, but even as they are they are more than capable of clearing roof campers. More organised players can use missile turrets from dropships. Or orbital strikes / flux strikes. Or just dropship a squad onto the roof. A few flux grenades and an HMG does a pretty good job. It's very rare that I play a match and think "damn, we can't win because they are camping the roof and we can't get them down".
Vesta Opalus PROJECT OF KILLERS. Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 02:52:00 - [16] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: The Problem: Roof camping is, at the moment, one of the things that is ruining users experience on Dust. It actually makes battles boring and frustrating for everyone. 9/10 of the matches are full of roofcampers. One team roof camps and the other defend the letter from the ground: no one has fun. Why is roof camping so difficult to counter? Roof in Dust are flat, it is easy for roof caers to hide from shooters on the ground. Roof are reachable only with Dropships. Roof campers spam uplinks so they can keep camping. Possible fix to the problem: Uplinks cant be placed on roofs. This is so simple. Sign up if you hate what roof camping is doing to our matches. Sign up if you want a better Dust. Yeah its pretty ***** lame, particularly when you compare the experience of fighting against roof campers to the experience of a good active ground game which is really fun in dust. The saddest thing is you can see blueberries shutting down and giving up alot of these roof camping games, nobody enjoys it, its not fun on the roof and its boring as ** on the ground. I just dont know why anyone does it, especially these assholes who bring in a dropship and start off the match every time with going straight to the roof. I mean I can understand it in PC where the win actually matters, but in pubs for fun, why?
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2015.11.15 03:05:00 - [17] - Quote every game has been reduced to battling for rooftops and high ground...it's ridiculous. "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
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Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 03:49:00 - [19] - Quote This would not be a problem if all weapons had good range and power. It's just who has the best spot to camp in order to win. Before the AR, LR, CR got nerfed i remember killing people off the mushroom in biomass. Palatinate, one of the best rail rifle users that loved to camp the mushroom to defend the acid pits and the playstation building objective. Me not having the RR at the time... but i had a CR, it was good enough to bother him from the ground in order for my team mates to hack. It was good times, weapons did what weapons were suppose to do. If that scenario was in today's weapon meta, i would be sht out of luck because the only way to compete to his rail rifle is if i had a rail rifle too, otherwise he would outgun me and be able to camp there the whole game unless i go up close and personal wasting unnecessary resources and to me that is just an inconvenience and bullsht. It's not even fun to play. But hey yall gotta deal with the eve lore. ANXIKIRITA K
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 04:05:00 - [20] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. I have a scenario for you maybe you can help me solve. What do I do when I have a bunch of cowardly pieces of ** on my team who choose to camp on top of roofs instead of actually playing the objective? What would motivate people like you to get the ** off of the roof and to actually try to accomplish something?

Stupid Blueberry LAST VENGEANCE. Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 04:09:00 - [21] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. What are Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen. Orbital Laser S is hot.
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 04:18:00 - [22] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: ... I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. ... A couple things, off the top of my amazing Minotaur head: Militia drop ships are basically coffins. Dropships are implemented terribly. Flying controls are sub-par. Roof campers often have Forge Guns. Some have swarms. Those weapons touch dropships inappropriately like Poseidon did to my mum. Sometimes half the team or more is on the roof. With mass drivers doing explosive spam. But hey, I hear you. Assaulting a rooftop and dislodging the campers is simple business. Especially if you ignore a multitude of factors, because those are kinda messy. (and none of that even touches upon the issues of matchmaking, team coordination, and the general turd-iness of DUST that are contributing factors) Anyway, roof camping would be less annoying if maps were *actually designed with vertical gameplay in mind* (Hint hint, CCP). Because redesigning maps will never happen, ever ever ever (not even in a billion years), I say "fck it" and let things be. Campers are easy enough to forge gun off high places, anyway. Blapping people is fun. Just little offtop I thougt it was Creatan Bull. Because from mythology what i know it was Zeus who changed himself to white bull and ride with Europa to Crete. Where she gave birth Minos, Sarpedon and Rhadamanthys. Minos became king in Crete, Sarphedon in Lykia and Rhadamathys something in Hades world. BUT Minos needed to show how he is accepted by gods he wanted to sacrifice bull. He pray to Poseidon for beautifull bull nad he gave him that bul, beautifull white one. But Minos was really astonished by the animal look and he sacrificed diffeent one what made Poseidon angry. That day Pasifae the wife of Minos became in love with bull and after some time she gave birth to you. That is story what i know. BTW Pasifae was after the birth sewed in to the cows skin and left to furious bull to tear apart. *"Dear Santa i want jackknife pick."* `One Scavenging Survivalist`
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 05:55:00 - [23] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. I have a scenario for you maybe you can help me solve. What do I do when I have a bunch of cowardly pieces of ** on my team who choose to camp on top of roofs instead of actually playing the objective? What would motivate people like you to get the off of the roof and to actually try to accomplish something? One you for calling me cowardly and assuming all I must do is camp roofs. Two it's not my job to play how your * ass tells me to, if anyone could make people play they way they decided then snipers would not exist since 90% of them are about as beneficial as fake boobs on an 90 year old and most of them hide so far in the redline the only thing that can hit them is a forge gun or another sniper. Force everyone to stop running free/milita/basic suits or *** apex and running at the objective like blind lemmings while your at it. I would rather my teammates at least flew in and got on a roof near the fight then hide like little fags in the redline or leave battle since their trapped with nowhere but the redline to spawn and don't have the mental ability to find a way back in. And for your solution, if you want them off the roof get a ds and push them off. Any drooling **** should be able to do it... You may have some trouble.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 06:03:00 - [24] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. What are Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers? Two weapons that never keep me from clearing a roof. No fit made for area denial (swarm/forge/rail/mass driver) last long against even a basic sentinel with a hmg who just wants up there to kill you.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 06:30:00 - [25] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Summa Militum wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. I have a scenario for you maybe you can help me solve. What do I do when I have a bunch of cowardly pieces of ** on my team who choose to camp on top of roofs instead of actually playing the objective? What would motivate people like you to get the off of the roof and to actually try to accomplish something? One you for calling me cowardly and assuming all I must do is camp roofs. Two it's not my job to play how your * ass tells me to, if anyone could make people play they way they decided then snipers would not exist since 90% of them are about as beneficial as fake boobs on an 90 year old and most of them hide so far in the redline the only thing that can hit them is a forge gun or another sniper. Force everyone to stop running free/milita/basic suits or *** apex and running at the objective like blind lemmings while your at it. I would rather my teammates at least flew in and got on a roof near the fight then hide like little retards in the redline or leave battle since their trapped with nowhere but the redline to spawn and don't have the mental ability to find a way back in. And for your solution, if you want them off the roof get a ds and push them off. Any drooling ** should be able to do it... You may have some trouble. So you're telling me you don't have a solution? The reason I came at you about being a rooftop camper is because people like you react to someone complaining about something as if they are getting their * whipped by the strategy they are complaining about. You need to realize that a lot of people complain about certain strategies because those strategies **** over the people on their team. People like you play it safe in matches and ride the coattails of others to claim your victory, but then when you lose a match half the time you complain about the stupid blueberries that were on your team.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 07:11:00 - [26] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Summa Militum wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. I have a scenario for you maybe you can help me solve. What do I do when I have a bunch of cowardly pieces of ** on my team who choose to camp on top of roofs instead of actually playing the objective? What would motivate people like you to get the off of the roof and to actually try to accomplish something? One you for calling me cowardly and assuming all I must do is camp roofs. Two it's not my job to play how your * ass tells me to, if anyone could make people play they way they decided then snipers would not exist since 90% of them are about as beneficial as fake boobs on an 90 year old and most of them hide so far in the redline the only thing that can hit them is a forge gun or another sniper. Force everyone to stop running free/milita/basic suits or *** apex and running at the objective like blind lemmings while your at it. I would rather my teammates at least flew in and got on a roof near the fight then hide like little retards in the redline or leave battle since their trapped with nowhere but the redline to spawn and don't have the mental ability to find a way back in. And for your solution, if you want them off the roof get a ds and push them off. Any drooling ** should be able to do it... You may have some trouble. So you're telling me you don't have a solution? The reason I came at you about being a rooftop camper is because people like you react to someone complaining about something as if they are getting their * whipped by the strategy they are complaining about. You need to realize that a lot of people complain about certain strategies because those strategies ** over the people on their team. People like you play it safe in matches and ride the coattails of others to claim your victory, but then when you lose a match half the time you complain about the stupid blueberries that were on your team. I gave you a solution push them off ( you must be blind as well as a moron ) 90% of matches I play the first hack of the objective is from me, all those proto links also from me. And if I can hold back a whole team solo on a high point that I can be sniped/forged/railed/Plc'd off of in a single shot then it's no skill fairy's like you who cost the loss by not doing it. I never play it safe, but I'm also not a apex/basic wearing blind lemming who rushes at the objective like my actual life depends on it. Mostly because I have ** players with garbage cheap fits on my team, and I'm not going to rush a squad solo, I'm not going to hand them a kill and stroke their epeen ( I'll leave that to you ) I'm in the top 200 all time WP you don't do that on coattail's ( btw its almost twice yours ) And if you're team is up on a roof firing down on enemy's and your squad can't move up without them then your squad sucks and is just plain out skilled suck it up you lost.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 07:29:00 - [27] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Summa Militum wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Summa Militum wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. I have a scenario for you maybe you can help me solve. What do I do when I have a bunch of cowardly pieces of ** on my team who choose to camp on top of roofs instead of actually playing the objective? What would motivate people like you to get the off of the roof and to actually try to accomplish something? One you for calling me cowardly and assuming all I must do is camp roofs. Two it's not my job to play how your * ass tells me to, if anyone could make people play they way they decided then snipers would not exist since 90% of them are about as beneficial as fake boobs on an 90 year old and most of them hide so far in the redline the only thing that can hit them is a forge gun or another sniper. Force everyone to stop running free/milita/basic suits or *** apex and running at the objective like blind lemmings while your at it. I would rather my teammates at least flew in and got on a roof near the fight then hide like little retards in the redline or leave battle since their trapped with nowhere but the redline to spawn and don't have the mental ability to find a way back in. And for your solution, if you want them off the roof get a ds and push them off. Any drooling ** should be able to do it... You may have some trouble. So you're telling me you don't have a solution? The reason I came at you about being a rooftop camper is because people like you react to someone complaining about something as if they are getting their * whipped by the strategy they are complaining about. You need to realize that a lot of people complain about certain strategies because those strategies ** over the people on their team. People like you play it safe in matches and ride the coattails of others to claim your victory, but then when you lose a match half the time you complain about the stupid blueberries that were on your team. I gave you a solution push them off ( you must be blind as well as a moron ) 90% of matches I play the first hack of the objective is from me, all those proto links also from me. And if I can hold back a whole team solo on a high point that I can be sniped/forged/railed/Plc'd off of in a single shot then it's no skill fairy's like you who cost the loss by not doing it. I never play it safe, but I'm also not a apex/basic wearing blind lemming who rushes at the objective like my actual life depends on it. Mostly because I have ** players with garbage cheap fits on my team, and I'm not going to rush a squad solo, I'm not going to hand them a kill and stroke their epeen ( I'll leave that to you ) I'm in the top 200 all time WP you don't do that on coattail's ( btw its almost twice yours ) And if you're team is up on a roof firing down on enemy's and your squad can't move up without them then your squad sucks and is just plain out skilled suck it up you lost. Push them off with a dropship? I read what you typed the first time but I dismissed it because with how idiotic that suggestion is I didn't think you were actually being serious. If you want to compare all time WPs then you might want to mention how long you have been playing this game compared to me.
Vicious Minotaur 3	Posted - 2015.11.15 07:32:00 - [28] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: [ A couple things, off the top of my amazing Minotaur head: ...Those weapons touch dropships inappropriately like Poseidon did to my mum. ... ... Not all touching is literal, and not all touching is done with hands or other body parts (Looking at you, Zeus). Poseidon, being the magical cvnt he is, touched my mum with magic to make her engage in beastiality because he has the temper of a toddler. But, I do find your knowledge of my story to be quite... touching. Minotaur Master Race Violently penetrating you since ca 84 BCE. ( -í° -£-û -í°)
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 10:22:00 - [29] - Quote Sumo... Wp to kills I'm obviously much more of a team player regardless of the fact I play solo... Half the time the link on the roof is the only one within 200m of the objective and it won't be getting camped. Don't like it, to fuckin bad go play call of duty theirs no roofs there. Perfect for apex losers.
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.11.15 10:53:00 - [30] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: [ A couple things, off the top of my amazing Minotaur head: ...Those weapons touch dropships inappropriately like Poseidon did to my mum. ... ... Not all touching is literal, and not all touching is done with hands or other body parts (Looking at you, Zeus). Poseidon, being the magical cvnt he is, touched my mum with magic to make her engage in beastiality because he has the temper of a toddler. But, I do find your knowledge of my story to be quite... touching. Im really much in legend an occult ;) *"Dear Santa i want jackknife pick."* `One Scavenging Survivalist`

Victor889 WarRavens Imperium Eden 320	Posted - 2015.11.15 13:12:00 - [31] - Quote I've been bleating about this for ever, at the very least they can make it so these things disappear when placed above a certain elevation (from either ground level or the objective, whichever is lower), or put that super annoying goop that slowly damages you all over the 'trouble spots' - you know because CCP play this game all the time and are aware of these spots... You're 100% right - on some maps it seems like the only way to guarantee victory is to be a rooftop camping *****, and this simply shouldn't be the case - there should be no - guaranteed win tactics - it should be who fights hardest! Just look at PC/Factional - this is where this type of behaviour is bred - try hard gimps in douchebag corps perpetuating this sort of filth simply because it gets them the 'win'.. what's the point of a victory when there is no opposition!?
duster 35000 614	Posted - 2015.11.15 13:14:00 - [32] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: The Problem: Roof camping is, at the moment, one of the things that is ruining users experience on Dust. It actually makes battles boring and frustrating for everyone. 9/10 of the matches are full of roofcampers. One team roof camps and the other defend the letter from the ground: no one has fun. Why is roof camping so difficult to counter? Roof in Dust are flat, it is easy for roof caers to hide from shooters on the ground. Roof are reachable only with Dropships. Roof campers spam uplinks so they can keep camping. Possible fix to the problem: Uplinks cant be placed on roofs. This is so simple. Sign up if you hate what roof camping is doing to our matches. Sign up if you want a better Dust. the issue will be resolved in 1.3, but you have to get your central nervous system removed for a year We'll bang ok?
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 927	Posted - 2015.11.15 13:33:00 - [33] - Quote Wasn't there some talk a while ago about only allowing uplinks to remain up to a certain height? E.G After 10/20/ whatever meters up - uplinks disappear if deployed?
Pagl1u M WarRavens 2	Posted - 2015.11.15 13:47:00 - [34] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Wasn't there some talk a while ago about only allowing uplinks to remain up to a certain height? E.G After 10/20/ whatever meters up - uplinks disappear if deployed? Yes. The idea of the topic is not new at all, the problem is old as Dust. King Babar had the idea more than a year ago. Actually, we are not talking about how you should deal with roofcampers. We are talking about improving the gameplay for everyone, when people dont roofcamp matcher are like 10x funnier. I think we can all agree here. Assault since open beta.
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 927	Posted - 2015.11.15 13:53:00 - [35] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: Wasn't there some talk a while ago about only allowing uplinks to remain up to a certain height? E.G After 10/20/ whatever meters up - uplinks disappear if deployed? Yes. The idea of the topic is not new at all, the problem is old as Dust. King Babar had the idea more than a year ago. Actually, we are not talking about how you should deal with roofcampers. We are talking about improving the gameplay for everyone, when people dont roofcamp matcher are like 10x funnier. I think we can all agree here. Ok yes I believe that is what I am thinking about. For sure battles can be much better without the rooftop camping but honestly even putting rooftop camping aside I find the best games are the even or closely fought ones. It doesnt matter so much to me who is doing what and where so long as there is fairly equal and opposite reactions in the game. If one squad of enemies camps and another attacks, this can still bring good gameplay as long as on my team there is one squad that attacks/defends and one squad goes after roof campers or tries to counter in some way. I think what you are getting at is when everyone is on the same level fighting there is much more that can be done by lower sp players to combat the enemy. Thus the battle has more deaths everywhere on both sides and that is what makes a good game.
Gengis-Kun Prima Gallicus 37	Posted - 2015.11.15 14:07:00 - [36] - Quote Just put a redline on roofs (15 or 20 m up) for public fight , equipement explode directly and let 20 sec for Mercs (for dropship pilots who crashed / jumps) Smile .. .. Tomorrow will be worse
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.11.15 14:30:00 - [37] - Quote If there was good points to snipe roof camping would not be such a problem. Regressed to blueberry level.
Hal P DUST University Ivy League 131	Posted - 2015.11.15 14:42:00 - [38] - Quote Why so much APEX bashing? Samurai is all I ever use in pubs and still have no problem killing proto fits from distance with standard rails. The problem is domination. Play skirmish and you'll rarely complain about roof camping. Clones turn to Dust, but knowledge is eternal.
Pagl1u M WarRavens 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 12:40:00 - [39] - Quote Gengis-Kun wrote: Just put a redline on roofs (15 or 20 m up) for public fight , equipement explode directly and let 20 sec for Mercs (for dropship pilots who crashed / jumps) I dnot know. I think you should be allowed to stay om the roof if you got there with a dropship. Not allowing you to put uplinks already fixes the problem but still allows you to use that tactic. Assault since open beta.
Pagl1u M WarRavens 2	Posted - 2015.11.17 12:15:00 - [40] - Quote Bump Assault since open beta.

HOUSE OF ISRAEL Chaos Of W.A.R Learning Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.11.19 20:02:00 - [41] - Quote Yo... Dust is not for everybody.... If u keep getting beat cuz of campers then u suck. I've done it and yea its annoying for you but i can't take an objective from the roof... I love this game and I got good cuz protostompers and scrubs killed me over and over again 28th these and other p#### techniques till i learned and countered... Dust doenst need more adjustsment cuz some people aren't good get... Just do it like all the other pro's do... DIE ALOT AND LEARN FOR THE NATION OF CALDARIA!!!!!
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.11.19 21:04:00 - [42] - Quote Signed Also, for those saying "just fly a dropship so my buddies and i can swarm you to death long before you reach us, and milk more warpoints", F*ck you! Dropships, especially for new flyers, are coffins! The controls are difficult even on default, and the price for a new player is pretty high just to watch it go up in smoke repeatedly. You and 6 others are up there with proto AV and weapons with healing hives and ammo, but you advocate he flies up there in militia? Yeah that's fair?! Hit detection in this game is out right comical, but i'm supposed to have the patience to start sniping lol! Forge guns are effective, but scouts will kill you from behind. I could go back to tank sniping with railgun, but then AVers cry about redline tankers. CCP needs to change?update the dropship controls to make flying the coroner ship a little more viable for newer players. I gun for one of the best pilots in the game quite often, and even he has a hard time controlling dropships. For new players getting off the ground is difficult, and most pilots can testify to having to dedicate hours, if not weeks, to practicing without being hit. Swarms are hold R1..... So can we agree that for a new player clearing the roof isn't as simple. Even for a vet we gotta be on comms to do it. Solo players can't do it without an ADS(Assault dropship) which cost tons more than your MD and Swarm combo. Thank god the minmando no longer has swarm bonus, but that doesn't stop him from equipping them all the same. The fact of the problem is this is more a dom issue than anything else really, and in my opinion to many of you play dom to camp kills all day. So Signed also for the petition against dom that is sure to come soon. This roof camping primarily goes on in domination! Some kind of way you've all been trick into getting mass drivered, sniped, and laser rifled in dom all day lol! Play skirm! He can camped C all day, but will lose if he doesn't take another point. In dom there's slim chance of any pilot surviving that barrage of AV coming at him from half the team. It's a full proof plan with few counters to take a 4 man squad into dom with roof camping commandos and camp open ground with MD's and AV. The nerve of some of you to suggest guys waste isk flying their heads into a wall is absurd.Not to mention as pilot and gunner you can't see the ground/roof troops until you've already been swarmed, forged, railgunned, and scanned lol! There's a serious rendering issue that has existed since Rhadamanthus played, and CCP has yet to fix it. While I advocate squading up and working together, I also understand that squading isn't always feasible for everyone. We must be fair to solo players, and encourage squading to them as well. I must say though that I have to agree that roof camping in dom has gotten to be an epidemic, almost as aggrevating as modded controllers. "Anybody order chaos?"
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.11.20 00:07:00 - [43] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Pagl1u M wrote: The Problem: Roof camping is, at the moment, one of the things that is ruining users experience on Dust. It actually makes battles boring and frustrating for everyone. 9/10 of the matches are full of roofcampers. One team roof camps and the other defend the letter from the ground: no one has fun. Why is roof camping so difficult to counter? Roof in Dust are flat, it is easy for roof caers to hide from shooters on the ground. Roof are reachable only with Dropships. Roof campers spam uplinks so they can keep camping. Possible fix to the problem: Uplinks cant be placed on roofs. This is so simple. Sign up if you hate what roof camping is doing to our matches. Sign up if you want a better Dust. I believe we have multiple things in the game designed for this issue. 1.flux nades 2.mass drivers 3.drop ships 4.orbital strikes of the flux and laser variety. 5.sniper rifles Ahem..... Just saying..... 1-5. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Palatinate Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 496	Posted - 2016.01.07 18:03:00 - [44] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: This would not be a problem if all weapons had good range and power. It's just who has the best spot to camp in order to win. Before the AR, LR, CR got nerfed i remember killing people off the mushroom in biomass. Palatinate, one of the best rail rifle users that loved to camp the mushroom to defend the acid pits and the playstation building objective. Me not having the RR at the time... but i had a CR, it was good enough to bother him from the ground in order for my team mates to hack. It was good times, weapons did what weapons were suppose to do. If that scenario was in today's weapon meta, i would be sht out of luck because the only way to compete to his rail rifle is if i had a rail rifle too, otherwise he would outgun me and be able to camp there the whole game unless i go up close and personal wasting unnecessary resources and to me that is just an inconvenience and bullsht. It's not even fun to play. But hey yall gotta deal with the eve lore. Aye. Weapons had their uniqueness and that was a good time in that meta. I remember you contesting me and protecting your bros since I had less dps than you. Your CR was truly something to fear, but my RR just as much. Good times. "Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3 Me: lol what? FA will always be a family to me. ALWAYS.
Soto Gallente BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM RUST415 188	Posted - 2016.01.07 18:16:00 - [45] - Quote No Ex-news reporter for The Scope
DDx777 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2016.01.07 18:29:00 - [46] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: The Problem: Roof camping is, at the moment, one of the things that is ruining users experience on Dust. It actually makes battles boring and frustrating for everyone. 9/10 of the matches are full of roofcampers. One team roof camps and the other defend the letter from the ground: no one has fun. Why is roof camping so difficult to counter? Roof in Dust are flat, it is easy for roof caers to hide from shooters on the ground. Roof are reachable only with Dropships. Roof campers spam uplinks so they can keep camping. Possible fix to the problem: Uplinks cant be placed on roofs. This is so simple. Sign up if you hate what roof camping is doing to our matches. Sign up if you want a better Dust. I agree that rooftop camping is lame and can really make a match boring But it is a strategy that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't I was in a Dom match yesterday where there was an assault forge gunner guarding the obj from a high location This was a rare time when it was actually a lot of fun trying to counter by either counter forging or in my case calling in a Rail tank to take some shots at him and give him something else to shoot at We did end up winning this match as after we contained the campers we took control of the city obj
Soto Gallente BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM RUST415 188	Posted - 2016.01.07 18:32:00 - [47] - Quote DDx777 wrote: Pagl1u M wrote: The Problem: Roof camping is, at the moment, one of the things that is ruining users experience on Dust. It actually makes battles boring and frustrating for everyone. 9/10 of the matches are full of roofcampers. One team roof camps and the other defend the letter from the ground: no one has fun. Why is roof camping so difficult to counter? Roof in Dust are flat, it is easy for roof caers to hide from shooters on the ground. Roof are reachable only with Dropships. Roof campers spam uplinks so they can keep camping. Possible fix to the problem: Uplinks cant be placed on roofs. This is so simple. Sign up if you hate what roof camping is doing to our matches. Sign up if you want a better Dust. I agree that rooftop camping is lame and can really make a match boring But it is a strategy that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't I was in a Dom match yesterday where there was an assault forge gunner guarding the obj from a high location This was a rare time when it was actually a lot of fun trying to counter by either counter forging or in my case calling in a Rail tank to take some shots at him and give him something else to shoot at We did end up winning this match as after we contained the campers we took control of the city obj Exactly, it's a legitimate strategy. To counter this, I would just add more ladders to stuff, or make high ground more generally accessible by foot. Ex-news reporter for The Scope
byte modal 368	Posted - 2016.01.07 19:05:00 - [48] - Quote Not for nothin, but it is assuming to think it's no fun for everyone. Obviously it is for someone or they wouldn't do it. Annoying? Sure. But I enjoy the challenge of finding an indirect spot sniping those lil turtleheads when they pop up. I'm surprised at the names advocating this. Options have been given for counter but some of you b!tch like little 5 year old girls with a keyboard. That's just weird lol. Im curious. Who spawns rooftops with swarms up front on the off chance someone may pull a DS? I can see after getting killed by one then looking for revenge, but do you actually face 2 or more players just sitting idle indefinately, camping objective roofs ...with swarms? What was that old saying from way back when? HTCU? No.. That's not right.... Seriously though, why homogenize more? Argue for ladders. Add. Not subtract. Especially when there ARE counter measures. I'm really just shocked at what I'm reading. kitten bacon taco (nom)
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1	Posted - 2016.01.07 19:26:00 - [49] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: The Problem: Roof camping is, at the moment, one of the things that is ruining users experience on Dust. It actually makes battles boring and frustrating for everyone. 9/10 of the matches are full of roofcampers. One team roof camps and the other defend the letter from the ground: no one has fun. Why is roof camping so difficult to counter? Roof in Dust are flat, it is easy for roof caers to hide from shooters on the ground. Roof are reachable only with Dropships. Roof campers spam uplinks so they can keep camping. Possible fix to the problem: Fly a dropship up to the roof and flatten them Sign up if you hate what roof camping is doing to our matches. Sign up if you want a better Dust. Fixed LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // *Director of Eternal Beings* // *GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate*
DRAKEST HOUR Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 73	Posted - 2016.01.07 20:18:00 - [50] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Sooo would you prefer firing in rank in open fields revolutionary war style? I always wondered why the hell people don't just fly up and clear the roof it's simple. Everyone has acces to milita drops ships but never use them... When a couple people on a roof are holding a whole team back it makes me laugh and think these guys are pathetic. Multiple levels keep the game from being a meat grinder on every map... Imagine if every socket was the rabbit hole map It would be boring and repetitive and the only suitable fits would be logis, heavy's, mass drivers, and re fits. So sitting on a roof is not boring to you? You sound like a fun person. I think we found a camper.

ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 999	Posted - 2016.01.07 20:22:00 - [51] - Quote We just need more god damn ladders and vantage points (Gameplay counters) you dont even need to nerf the gameplay of roof camping just give us viable options to attack and counter. Assuming the roof campers have sufficient AV I believe you have two viable options to attack as it is right now. 1. Fly cheap derpship stupidly high above said roof campers, jump out and activate inertia damps at the very last possible second for maximum surprise. 2. Fly expensive well fit ADS or DS with gunners and try and take out the uplinks and force the people off the roof and/or deliver a raiding party but you will be 100% committed if you take this route. All in, very hard to retreat if they have great AV. If we had a few more ladders and vantage points across the maps then we would have I think enough ways to take out the roof campers. I have had great games of roof camping and counter roof camping where possession of the high ground keeps changing and makes insanely fun battles but this is a once in a blue moon occasion lets be honest.
Rikku Previa Golden Goats War Pack 10	Posted - 2016.01.07 21:16:00 - [52] - Quote All you need to do is spawn a dropship so... I disagree with this idea. It will just nerf the awesomeness of Dust in favor of more simplicity... Like the new update which will "make all rifles more similar"... blegh
Apoleon II Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 94	Posted - 2016.01.07 21:24:00 - [53] - Quote Wtf, you can always use a viper with two hardeners at the same time, you can be immune to damage, the hardeners are broken and op Edit: If you use 3 at the same time the damage is reduced by 96% aprox. Sorry for my bad english :$
Soto Gallente BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM RUST415 190	Posted - 2016.01.07 21:25:00 - [54] - Quote Apoleon II wrote: Wtf, you can always use a viper with two hardeners at the same time, you can be immune to damage, the hardeners are broken and op Edit: If you use 3 at the same time the damage is reduced by 96% aprox. Exactly, some people just don't have common sense. Ex-news reporter for The Scope


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