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da GAND
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Posted - 2015.11.08 18:46:00 -
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Devadander wrote:I love the enthusiasm.
However.
You do realize begging CCP for a pc port probably just infuriates them...
Allow me to explain.
Project legion. There will be forum warriors pop in and say "BLARGHH legion wasn't dust!" Buuuuut....
To CCP, it probably kinda was. And we pooped all over it. Seeing as I'm a Sony fanboi that's fine for me. I'm all about the port to ps4 movement. (It could use a good f2p...)
But just like people love to point out their butthurt over ff14. Pretty sure CCP still has a little angst.
If we could have thought rationally at the time, we might have made something beautiful happen. The sadness of the situation hits me too. But the past is the past now.
So save yourself some face, don't mention a pc port.
If they hadn't announced it like that at ff14 then things might have gone so much better. They could've said many months before fanfest 2014 that they were working on moving Dust from the ps3 and that's it. And then at ff2014 showing the Legion gameplay and being honest saying that it wasn't gameplay from a ps4 but it was on a PC prototype. That honestly sounds like things would've been more acceptable as long as they pretty much hinted or showed that PC+PS4 was the way they're headed. Even if they got a PC version of Dust out there first and had a PS4 port not long behind( perhaps 6 months if they were working on the PS4 version on the side just with a bit of a smaller crew)
It was really too late at that point to just abandon their console players anyways so a ps4+PC port is pretty much the best way to go since the many EVE players that don't want to buy a console couldn't play Dust and they've got many console only players that have stuck with this game for so long.
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.08 19:57:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:da GAND wrote:Devadander wrote:I love the enthusiasm.
However.
You do realize begging CCP for a pc port probably just infuriates them...
Allow me to explain.
Project legion. There will be forum warriors pop in and say "BLARGHH legion wasn't dust!" Buuuuut....
To CCP, it probably kinda was. And we pooped all over it. Seeing as I'm a Sony fanboi that's fine for me. I'm all about the port to ps4 movement. (It could use a good f2p...)
But just like people love to point out their butthurt over ff14. Pretty sure CCP still has a little angst.
If we could have thought rationally at the time, we might have made something beautiful happen. The sadness of the situation hits me too. But the past is the past now.
So save yourself some face, don't mention a pc port. If they hadn't announced it like that at ff14 then things might have gone so much better. They could've said many months before fanfest 2014 that they were working on moving Dust from the ps3 and that's it. And then at ff2014 showing the Legion gameplay and being honest saying that it wasn't gameplay from a ps4 but it was on a PC prototype. That honestly sounds like things would've been more acceptable as long as they pretty much hinted or showed that PC+PS4 was the way they're headed. Even if they got a PC version of Dust out there first and had a PS4 port not long behind( perhaps 6 months if they were working on the PS4 version on the side just with a bit of a smaller crew) It was really too late at that point to just abandon their console players anyways so a ps4+PC port is pretty much the best way to go since the many EVE players that don't want to buy a console couldn't play Dust and they've got many console only players that have stuck with this game for so long. A fps on PC AND ps4??? Where did you buy your drugs from sir??
The Walmart Pharmacy.... it was cheap and the pharmacist was discrete about it.
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.08 20:53:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah, CCP learned a lot from the FF14 announcement but there's a lot of details surrounding that event that aren't and may never be public. Obviously, I can't go into that, so please don't ask.
However, I will say this with absolute certainty, CCP learned from that experience. And yes there may be some flashbacks to that due to the air of silence from CCP at the moment but it is only because they don't want to make promises they can't deliver on like those made with FF13.
The silence is necessary, unfortunately. When CCP is 100% certain that what they say will come true, that will likely change. That era of 'tentative maybes' and 'hopeful optimism' is gone, replaced by an era of educated, relative assurances. You can see that much with every build that has come since CCP Rattati took over: If he said it was coming, it was usually right around the corner. Based on this reasoning, I can guess the bigger the silence, the more work is actually being done. That's a metric I can live with.
I can't , a lot of other development companies show their actual progress to their communities and tell them what they want to do and where they are headed with their product. That's how they've gained trust from their community and are able to keep going.
CCPs silence can mean that work is being done but it can also mean that they are just draining as much $$ from the playerbase for this game before they drop it and sell the license to develop (not own it) the game to another company that can get things done quicker with less bugs and errors.
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.09 14:46:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Man this thread was confusing until I realised FF14 meant "fanfest 14" was sitting there thinking about how hardly anyone has said anything bad about Final Fantasy 14 since Square Enix rebuilt the game taking players opinions into mind, improving stability and adding a butt load more content... Rather than leaving it a buggy mess for god knows how long. Trust me, EVE/Dust abbreviations are confusing, for the longest time I thought when people were talking about PC, I thought they mean Computers not Planetary Conquest. Man if they'd just port Dust to PC, then we could finally play PC on PC!! It'd be so good at the end of each game people with lots of WP would told GG WP at the end!
Would've been so much better if they had started with making it for the PC. But now here we are waiting and waiting. The games potential held back by the ps3 ( can't blame the devs don't know anything about the people that were making the game from the start ).
Now it's just to late and unfair to leave the console only people back here, especially since so many of them bought the idea and gave CCP plenty of $$.
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