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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 16:04:00 -
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I love the enthusiasm.
However.
You do realize begging CCP for a pc port probably just infuriates them...
Allow me to explain.
Project legion. There will be forum warriors pop in and say "BLARGHH legion wasn't dust!" Buuuuut....
To CCP, it probably kinda was. And we pooped all over it. Seeing as I'm a Sony fanboi that's fine for me. I'm all about the port to ps4 movement. (It could use a good f2p...)
But just like people love to point out their butthurt over ff14. Pretty sure CCP still has a little angst.
If we could have thought rationally at the time, we might have made something beautiful happen. The sadness of the situation hits me too. But the past is the past now.
So save yourself some face, don't mention a pc port.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 17:55:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Not sure if this is a thread that rationally views the Legion announcement or a thread that is anti-PC/pro-console.
Maybe it's both? In that case, what's the focal topic here?
That crying for a pc port possibly angers CCP, due to the fact that they whipped up a dust experience known as project legion and it was not looked upon favorably by the large part of the community?
And it was on pc...
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 18:12:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Devadander wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not sure if this is a thread that rationally views the Legion announcement or a thread that is anti-PC/pro-console.
Maybe it's both? In that case, what's the focal topic here? That crying for a pc port possibly angers CCP, due to the fact that they whipped up a dust experience known as project legion and it was not looked upon favorably by the large part of the community? And it was on pc... Have you not seen the keynote? Have you not heard what was said? It wasn't the port or the name change that pissed us off, it was the fact that we had no communication months before FF14 then we were shown Legion, a game that wasn't even in Alpha. Then we were told there would be no furthur support for dust and that we will not be seeing any of the features presented at the keynote in Dust. They used the Dust 514 keynote for a game that we have heard no news from for over a year and a half. To be honest, I was glad when they announced the port, but betrayed when I found out they weren't going to be doing anything more with Dust.
I was here. I remember.
I also covered that in the OP. Pretty sure in ccp's mind, legion WAS a dust port... So they kinda were going to be doing more with dust.
I was upset about the news yes. I was more enraged that they were going to pc. Honestly, people who hold that 'betrayed' grudge have no bearing in my world.
I lost my brother corp to 'feelings of betrayal' and I have to call that bs. The CEO is still on my psn, still has his three, and plays destiny now with the corp that left...
It's a bs cop out excuse to leave dust, and the ones who stayed know it.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 19:51:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Devadander wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Devadander wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not sure if this is a thread that rationally views the Legion announcement or a thread that is anti-PC/pro-console.
Maybe it's both? In that case, what's the focal topic here? That crying for a pc port possibly angers CCP, due to the fact that they whipped up a dust experience known as project legion and it was not looked upon favorably by the large part of the community? And it was on pc... Have you not seen the keynote? Have you not heard what was said? It wasn't the port or the name change that pissed us off, it was the fact that we had no communication months before FF14 then we were shown Legion, a game that wasn't even in Alpha. Then we were told there would be no furthur support for dust and that we will not be seeing any of the features presented at the keynote in Dust. They used the Dust 514 keynote for a game that we have heard no news from for over a year and a half. To be honest, I was glad when they announced the port, but betrayed when I found out they weren't going to be doing anything more with Dust. I was here. I remember. I also covered that in the OP. Pretty sure in ccp's mind, legion WAS a dust port... So they kinda were going to be doing more with dust. I was upset about the news yes. I was more enraged that they were going to pc. Honestly, people who hold that 'betrayed' grudge have no bearing in my world. I lost my brother corp to 'feelings of betrayal' and I have to call that bs. The CEO is still on my psn, still has his three, and plays destiny now with the corp that left... It's a bs cop out excuse to leave dust, and the ones who stayed know it. > Implying I have left. I'm still here bro. And the fact of the matter is that the rage was not about the port but about the presentation and being told that all Dust support would be pulled and the sense of betrayal felt afterwards.
Which is what happens when one ports a game... It dies on the old medium, and rises on the new.
Idk, I was upset because it was going to pc. As were the rest of my console friends. (At least 100 of us were from pshome/event horizon) Some of us could handle it. Some left.
I got over it.
Obviously you didn't leave
At least you acknowledge it WAS a port.
Idk.. Potatoes gonna potate.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.08 20:01:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah, CCP learned a lot from the FF14 announcement but there's a lot of details surrounding that event that aren't and may never be public. Obviously, I can't go into that, so please don't ask.
However, I will say this with absolute certainty, CCP learned from that experience. And yes there may be some flashbacks to that due to the air of silence from CCP at the moment but it is only because they don't want to make promises they can't deliver on like those made with FF13.
The silence is necessary, unfortunately. When CCP is 100% certain that what they say will come true, that will likely change. That era of 'tentative maybes' and 'hopeful optimism' is gone, replaced by an era of educated, relative assurances. You can see that much with every build that has come since CCP Rattati took over: If he said it was coming, it was usually right around the corner.
Based on this reasoning, I can guess the bigger the silence, the more work is actually being done.
That's a metric I can live with.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.09 17:21:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Devadander wrote:So save yourself some face, don't mention a pc port. Going to rep a PC/PS4. I will let up the day CCP tells me otherwise with a post specifically saying "PS4 exclusive". Until then, I will continue to talk about #PortDust514. I will keep respectfully requesting more information and no one on these forums will stop me.
Think you misread. Keep up the port push. Just asking for pc seems silly since they tried that, blah blah.
Done beating this horse since most here don't fully read/comprehend.
I had to solder fix my USB ports, gave up finally and couldn't sync ds3. Hence the extra tasty crispy bittervetting....
Pair that fix with Frame announcing 1.3 soonGäó and this thread is now obsolete.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.09 17:25:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Devadander wrote:Just asking for pc seems silly since they tried that, blah blah. Nah. It's not silly. People were not JUST upset about a PC port. They were upset because of the months of silence leading up to the announcement, how the announcement was made, and that Rouge's Q&A session after the announcement didn't get aired like it should have. There were ways CCP could have made the Legion announcement that would have gone x100 better, but that ship has sailed.
So has my interest in this thread.
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Devadander
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Posted - 2015.11.09 17:27:00 -
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I lost over 50 friends because it was leaving ps3...
Your experience, and my experience, were very different.
End of line.
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