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Jaztech Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:52:00 - [1] - Quote If you press the 'SHOW INFO' There should be a rating on how much people trust that player. I don't want to be scammed again.
Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:54:00 - [2] - Quote Jaztech wrote: If you press the 'SHOW INFO' There should be a rating on how much people trust that player. I don't want to be scammed again. Then couldn't people just screw people over by giving them bad ratings... Also, first! Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 01:56:00 - [3] - Quote Jaztech wrote: If you press the 'SHOW INFO' There should be a rating on how much people trust that player. I don't want to be scammed again. I do get what you are going for but I have to say no. Let's say you were underselling me and stealing my buisness. I get a hold of all my mates, corps members and people I just pay off and they give you a poor rating. Now all of a sudden you are rated as extremely untrustworthy and nobody would trade with you. On the flip side, I could get my rating sky rocketed and be rated as the most trustworthy. Now I do not have the ability to do this, but some of the massive corps would use this exploit and use their high rating to either scam or drive prices higher. Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs
Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 02:09:00 - [4] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Jaztech wrote: If you press the 'SHOW INFO' There should be a rating on how much people trust that player. I don't want to be scammed again. I do get what you are going for but I have to say no. Let's say you were underselling me and stealing my buisness. I get a hold of all my mates, corps members and people I just pay off and they give you a poor rating. Now all of a sudden you are rated as extremely untrustworthy and nobody would trade with you. On the flip side, I could get my rating sky rocketed and be rated as the most trustworthy. Now I do not have the ability to do this, but some of the massive corps would use this exploit and use their high rating to either scam or drive prices higher. Just couldn't leave it to my simple definition could you? Lol. Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 02:10:00 - [5] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Jaztech wrote: If you press the 'SHOW INFO' There should be a rating on how much people trust that player. I don't want to be scammed again. I do get what you are going for but I have to say no. Let's say you were underselling me and stealing my buisness. I get a hold of all my mates, corps members and people I just pay off and they give you a poor rating. Now all of a sudden you are rated as extremely untrustworthy and nobody would trade with you. On the flip side, I could get my rating sky rocketed and be rated as the most trustworthy. Now I do not have the ability to do this, but some of the massive corps would use this exploit and use their high rating to either scam or drive prices higher. Just couldn't leave it to my simple definition could you? Lol. Actually we posted near the same time, it was just slower for me because of potatoe phone. Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs
Jaztech Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2015.11.07 02:14:00 - [6] - Quote How about a system the determines the number of successful trades?
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 02:18:00 - [7] - Quote Jaztech wrote: How about a system the determines the number of successful trades? I'm not trying to pick apart your idea, but the flaw is how do we track a successful trade? Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs
Jaztech Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2015.11.07 02:20:00 - [8] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Jaztech wrote: How about a system the determines the number of successful trades? I'm not trying to pick apart your idea, but the flaw is how do we track a successful trade? Ohh yeah I forgot they can't even fix a small bug.............
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 02:23:00 - [9] - Quote Jaztech wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Jaztech wrote: How about a system the determines the number of successful trades? I'm not trying to pick apart your idea, but the flaw is how do we track a successful trade? Ohh yeah I forgot they can't even fix a small bug............. That wasn't my point. My point was that there is no way to tell if a trade was successful as it is a send ISK/Item then wait for them to reciprocate. For all you know, I could of traded you something from another player then sent him the isk you sent me. Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 710	Posted - 2015.11.07 04:40:00 - [10] - Quote Jaztech wrote: If you press the 'SHOW INFO' There should be a rating on how much people trust that player. I don't want to be scammed again. I like your thinking, Jastech. I have a funny feeling the Devs like it too. It's just "too early". Let me explain. Eve-Online has a system of player rule/behavior enforcement that punishes malicious players. It's called the DeD. They also have a "criminal flag" concept in their game that tags players with symbols or info in their data description that other players can recognize as "bad" or "traitorous" or "non-trustable" players. But that didn't happen right away. It took YEARS to put something like that into full-effect, and even then, it seems (SEEMS) to be based on "the player community doing the biggest part of developing their OWN system of ratings and protection,GÇª and CCP giving them a little help at the end as icing on the cake". It takes the player community to build their own rating and filtering method, before they can present proper requests to CCP that the devs can build and provide for them. The PLAYERS over the years, helped CCP develop the right "trust rating" devices. GÇªDust is still very young in Trading. In fact, we just started. It's going to take a few years to migrate from just demanding a solution from CCP, to learning enough about ourselves to form our own method of filtering the scammers, and finally "help" CCP design an official device that makes our filtering method complete. What we come up with, should be interesting. But it will take a LOT more time,GÇª just like EVE-Online. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.

1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy 1	Posted - 2015.11.07 06:39:00 - [11] - Quote Use a Middle Man when in Doubt. Also request an Invite to 514 Surplus. Dust Players are Mercenaries so remember that *LeGiT* *SUinc Mission* *514 Surplus*
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.11.07 06:47:00 - [12] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Jaztech wrote: If you press the 'SHOW INFO' There should be a rating on how much people trust that player. I don't want to be scammed again. Then couldn't people just screw people over by giving them bad ratings... Also, first! It wouldn't go both ways. It'd be like the likes feature on these forums and Facebook et al. You either place a vote or remove it. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 06:59:00 - [13] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Jaztech wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Jaztech wrote: How about a system the determines the number of successful trades? I'm not trying to pick apart your idea, but the flaw is how do we track a successful trade? Ohh yeah I forgot they can't even fix a small bug............. That wasn't my point. My point was that there is no way to tell if a trade was successful as it is a send ISK/Item then wait for them to reciprocate. For all you know, I could of traded you something from another player then sent him the isk you sent me. You've gotta stop making sense, its too much to comprehend. "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.11.07 07:06:00 - [14] - Quote A player based rating system will be abused, no doubt about it. This game is infested with dicks that think "Oh we'll be like EVE and screw people over" not realizing that EVE isn't entirely the lawless land it's made out to be. Not realizing the only reason someone can get screwed in a trade is if they're either stupid enough to use the direct player trade with a player they don't know or if they're not paying enough attention in the market. In Dust we don't have the luxury of a proper market so we're left with only the chance to get screwed. Jonny D Buelle wrote: Jaztech wrote: How about a system the determines the number of successful trades? I'm not trying to pick apart your idea, but the flaw is how do we track a successful trade? Well if we had a proper market like in EVE Online, it'd be easy to track; but then we wouldn't need that system. Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks. Dust really needs its high sec.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.11.07 09:06:00 - [15] - Quote Why not a trading window instead? If people are afraid to trade because scam then The system does noto work. Regressed to blueberry level.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 1	Posted - 2015.11.07 11:48:00 - [16] - Quote Main problem with rating systems in a FPS is trolling. Someone gets killed in a game and downvotes you just for that rather than your legitimacy of trading. People rage and get butt hurt too much in FPS games, hence no "Dislike" button. Some 12 year old would spend a week creating alts just to downvote you 150 times. There needs to be a better way to do transactions, window with offers from both sides, then confirmation to complete trade from both sides. The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
LittleCuteBunny 555	Posted - 2015.11.07 14:58:00 - [17] - Quote The use of a third party would be easier, I believe a veteran player with a respectable corp history will do a good job as long as he gets a small fee (i.e. 500k from each player), he will just focus on making profit from scaling his trade. Not every vet is trustworthy, so be careful. Graveyard 514


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