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[Veteran_Korrin Palentes]
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Posted - 2012.06.19 21:56:00 -
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I know that currently selecting a Female character is not an available option in the current beta build. With that said, would having a female dropsuit have any differneces to the male suits or will it be copy and paste stats? |
[Veteran_SuperMido]
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:20:00 -
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We have no idea yet, but I hope it'll be copy and paste so we don't end up with people choosing the Female character because it has an advantage; usually in F2P FPS games on PC they make the Female characters faster, and sometimes have more stamina, and things like that. I hope thats NOT what CCP is planning for Dust 514. |
[Veteran_Gene Dravon]
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:30:00 -
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I do remember someone mentioning a Twitter post from a dev about how female mercs look really hot in the female variant of the Assault Suit, so I imagine its somewhere on their pipeline of features. However I dont see it as very high priority at the moment. |
[Veteran_Cahi Fire]
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:34:00 -
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I'm hoping that the only difference between the genders is the Dropsuit image (like they did for ME3). Giving an advantage of one sex over the other is not a fair thing to do in a FPS. Something like D&D it makes sence but not in New Eden. |
[Veteran_Gene Dravon]
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:40:00 -
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Nah someone asked about female soldiers getting an advantage by having a smaller frame, and thus being harder to hit, but the devs were very much against giving any sort of advantage. The only difference would be how they look....I just hope that doesn't mean we'll get amazon women =P |
[Veteran_Izzy Maffia]
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Posted - 2012.06.19 23:17:00 -
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Gene Dravon wrote:Nah someone asked about female soldiers getting an advantage by having a smaller frame, and thus being harder to hit, but the devs were very much against giving any sort of advantage. The only difference would be how they look....I just hope that doesn't mean we'll get amazon women =P
I agree....as a female gamer I don't want any special perks other than having breasts and nice a$$ when I'm gaming lol. The amazon thing would suck....I just wanna get out there and blow stuff up and kick major butt with all the boys |
[Veteran_Gene Dravon]
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Posted - 2012.06.19 23:23:00 -
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I understand completely, we have a couple female players in our clan/corp that I'm sure would enjoy being able to play as women since this gene so often includes only male characters. |
[Veteran_iwillrock yourworld]
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Posted - 2012.06.20 01:01:00 -
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Also hope that difference is just cosmetic and a nice round bottom to look at :)
*sorry gurls :) |
[Veteran_Dra'az]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:04:00 -
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I do wonder if / when these suits are going to be released on pshome though. |
[Veteran_dent 308]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:08:00 -
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Been playing some mAss effect lately, and fully support this idea.
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[Veteran_dent 308]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:43:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Been playing some mAss effect lately, and fully support this idea.
By that I mean this is an idea I can get behind. |
[Veteran_GM Unicorn]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:45:00 -
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I believe that everyone has in mind the famous shower scene from Starship Troopers :Q___________
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[Veteran_Fivetimes Infinity]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:49:00 -
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The water in that scene must have been cold. |
[Veteran_MrShooter01]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:50:00 -
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As long as they look like somewhat believable soldiers and not plastic balloon featured supermodels wearing accentuating dropsuits
stop staring at your character's ass |
[Veteran_Templar Two]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:54:00 -
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We will get female character as well as female models, CCP confirmed it, the real question is : When? At this point I say "Make them available at day one". Female players MIGHT not want to touch Dust without in-game female character and frankly I prefer a small delay to get it done than potentially have less players. |
[Veteran_Cong Zilla]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:00:00 -
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GM Unicorn wrote:I believe that everyone has in mind the famous shower scene from Starship Troopers :Q___________
At least CCP understands it's core audience.
Fun Fact: They got the actors to agree to do that seen when the director agreed to direct it naked as well. |
[Veteran_Fivetimes Infinity]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:06:00 -
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Incidentally, I think the female models from the game Planetside are a good reference to use. Female Planetside models are only vaguely different from the male models. Just slightly more lithe, really. They are otherwise fully clothed and wearing body armor which is not designed to make them look sexy.
Behold: http://www.planetside-universe.com/media.php?album=20
No really pronounced breasts, no extra skin showing, and otherwise armor which is designed to be equally effective as the male version of the same armor. It's as egalitarian as you like. That's what Dust ought to aim for. |
[Veteran_GM Unicorn]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:08:00 -
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Guys, preemptive warning: keep the content of this thread Safe For Work ;) |
[Veteran_Dao Ferret]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:28:00 -
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Agreed. I've got a couple of Female friends who are interested in Dust, but are very leery of harassment in MMOs (let alone an FPS MMO) already. |
[Veteran_Sintel Jenner]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:43:00 -
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GM Unicorn wrote:I believe that everyone has in mind the famous shower scene from Starship Troopers :Q___________
Well, have to say, was telling my wife earlier how there was this one really awesome GM that joked around with us. I let her read this response and you got a resounding "hell yeah!" cheer from her, as well as a suggestion that we rewatch Starship Troopers again tonight.
Also, GM Fabulous was supposed to randomly give you a high five for me. |
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[Veteran_Skytt Syysch]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:32:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:the real question is : When?
This is something I would like to know, as would some of my friends who intend to play this game. I'd rather be able to make one day 1, instead of have to make a brand new character weeks or months down the line and lose the active and passive SP and ISK I've accrued on the other character that I'd be abandoning in favor of the female one.
If it's not done in time for release, could we have an option to set up a female placeholder character at release? Something that we select "female" but have to have a generic stand-in until females are implemented, and then we can do all the appearance customization as a female and keep the progress we had on that character. |
[Veteran_King of Fools]
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Posted - 2012.06.21 23:56:00 -
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Skytt Syysch wrote:Templar Two wrote:the real question is : When? This is something I would like to know, as would some of my friends who intend to play this game. I'd rather be able to make one day 1, instead of have to make a brand new character weeks or months down the line and lose the active and passive SP and ISK I've accrued on the other character that I'd be abandoning in favor of the female one. If it's not done in time for release, could we have an option to set up a female placeholder character at release? Something that we select "female" but have to have a generic stand-in until females are implemented, and then we can do all the appearance customization as a female and keep the progress we had on that character.
Considering they will be resetting everything on more than one occasion, I don't imagine you'll really need to worry about. When they release female characters, it will likely coincide with a major character reset at which point you'll lose all of your saved up junk anyway. |
[Veteran_Skytt Syysch]
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:07:00 -
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King of Fools wrote:Skytt Syysch wrote:Templar Two wrote:the real question is : When? This is something I would like to know, as would some of my friends who intend to play this game. I'd rather be able to make one day 1, instead of have to make a brand new character weeks or months down the line and lose the active and passive SP and ISK I've accrued on the other character that I'd be abandoning in favor of the female one. If it's not done in time for release, could we have an option to set up a female placeholder character at release? Something that we select "female" but have to have a generic stand-in until females are implemented, and then we can do all the appearance customization as a female and keep the progress we had on that character. Considering they will be resetting everything on more than one occasion, I don't imagine you'll really need to worry about. When they release female characters, it will likely coincide with a major character reset at which point you'll lose all of your saved up junk anyway.
Are they going to be constantly resetting things after release though? That's what I mean by if they don't come for weeks or months, as in that long after the game's official release. I don't mind losing progress during the beta, I expect it to happen, but if female characters aren't ready by release, I'd like to have some way of not losing progress by creating a new character simply because the option wasn't available when I made my first one.
I only ever remember hearing it commented on once, and I forget if it was they'll be there by release, or some time after release, hence the concern. |
[Veteran_Izzy Maffia]
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:40:00 -
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If it's not immediately relased.....is there a way that we don't lose all our fittings to change over to get our God given gifts.... aka breast and nice A$$ ???
I really don't want to lose all the stuff I worked so hard to get to begin with. |
[Veteran_briyan jenkins]
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:54:00 -
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They should make the female models similar to what bungie did in halo reach or what epic games did in gears of war 3 , have chicks in cool armor that can kick serious behind |
[Veteran_Templar Two]
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Posted - 2012.06.22 05:47:00 -
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Skytt Syysch I am sure CCP will devise a way to let us change the sex of our characters without having to erase them...probably when the time comes you only will have to re-do the Avatar.
In case we don't get female merc at day one then female players should get a bonus for the wait ;) |
[Veteran_Fat Axel]
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Posted - 2012.06.22 05:50:00 -
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SuperMido wrote:We have no idea yet, but I hope it'll be copy and paste so we don't end up with people choosing the Female character because it has an advantage; usually in F2P FPS games on PC they make the Female characters faster, and sometimes have more stamina, and things like that. I hope thats NOT what CCP is planning for Dust 514.
it wouldnt make sense for females to have an advantage as speed and stamina are the only things actually based on the players physical abilities, other than those just about everything is based on ur gear |
[Veteran_Fingal Senga]
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Posted - 2012.06.22 13:01:00 -
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Fat Axel wrote:SuperMido wrote:We have no idea yet, but I hope it'll be copy and paste so we don't end up with people choosing the Female character because it has an advantage; usually in F2P FPS games on PC they make the Female characters faster, and sometimes have more stamina, and things like that. I hope thats NOT what CCP is planning for Dust 514. it wouldnt make sense for females to have an advantage as speed and stamina are the only things actually based on the players physical abilities, other than those just about everything is based on ur gear
I second that! Also, these are not normal humans but super troopers with a splice of Lion, Cheetah and Platypus genes, so not normal men and women.
Right, now sing along: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saag5yKhv_s
(Ps. Yes I know it's Trouper and not Trooper in the song, but all life's a stage, even Dust 514) |
[Veteran_Kro'nak]
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Posted - 2012.06.23 20:53:00 -
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Fingal Senga wrote:Fat Axel wrote:SuperMido wrote:We have no idea yet, but I hope it'll be copy and paste so we don't end up with people choosing the Female character because it has an advantage; usually in F2P FPS games on PC they make the Female characters faster, and sometimes have more stamina, and things like that. I hope thats NOT what CCP is planning for Dust 514. it wouldnt make sense for females to have an advantage as speed and stamina are the only things actually based on the players physical abilities, other than those just about everything is based on ur gear I second that! Also, these are not normal humans but super troopers with a splice of Lion, Cheetah and Platypus genes, so not normal men and women. Right, now sing along: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saag5yKhv_s(Ps. Yes I know it's Trouper and not Trooper in the song, but all life's a stage, even Dust 514)
I agree with Fingal Seng & Fat Axel. The female characters should be equal to the male characters and not have any advantages as they should have the same boosts & enhancements resulting in the same end result. If not, then in addition to the female characters having advantages over the males they should also have disadvantages. Having equality only being implemented when its "convenient" only creates a "false equality" or sense of reverse favoritism/sexism.
One of my favorite things about Starship Troopers was that it implented "true equality". The females in that movie hit men & were hit by men without any special treatment or protection because it was obvious that there enemies weren't going to give them any "preferred treatment". There was no "separate but equal", there was only "together and equal". To me the soldiers in that movie had no gender, they were all "Soldiers" and thats how it should be in Dust 514. Leave out the half-***ed false equallity B.S. Having served 8 years in the military out of the last decade its obvious that we are decades (if not a century) away from true equality between genders in the military.
However being that Dust 514 is set 21,000 years in the future, this game should not be limited by the double standard of today's military/society over females being allowed to serve in the military but not in actual infantry combat. In the timeframe that Dust 514 is set in I would think that females would have already proven by then that they are just as effetive in combat as their male counterparts. As such it would only make sense that females & males would be fighting side-by-side in that universe.
On a sidenote, I have no problems playing as a female character in a game as I've done so in past Halo, Mass Effect, other FPS, Fighting, Adventure, RPG & whatever else genres that have had females as alternate or primary playable character. The main focus of a game should always be about gameplay & NOT the race or gender of a character. Anyone that complains that they "can't" play a game due to the gender of a character isn't an actual gamer & is only playing for the "popularity" of it. |
[Veteran_Templar Two]
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Posted - 2012.06.24 09:28:00 -
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Kro'nak wrote:...On a sidenote, I have no problems playing as a female character in a game as I've done so in past Halo, Mass Effect, other FPS, Fighting, Adventure, RPG & whatever else genres that have had females as alternate or primary playable character. The main focus of a game should always be about gameplay & NOT the race or gender of a character. Anyone that complains that they "can't" play a game due to the gender of a character isn't an actual gamer & is only playing for the "popularity" of it.
Identification with the character is fundamental in video games; in MMO race & gender are key elements to achieve this identification...and Dust 514 is a MMO FPS. |
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[Veteran_Madeleine Kriziah]
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Posted - 2012.06.24 16:56:00 -
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Dao Ferret wrote:Agreed. I've got a couple of Female friends who are interested in Dust, but are very leery of harassment in MMOs (let alone an FPS MMO) already.
not much to worry about any more since we are bigger percentage now.
seriously though ccp... please add female characters soon. it's incredibly odd to play right now. |
[Veteran_scatter gun514]
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Posted - 2012.06.24 20:30:00 -
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http://www.dust514.com/media/fiction/stranded-part-seven/
" GÇ£A stock clone,GÇ¥ the coat screams, as I throw him bodily across the room. And then from behind the safety of a flashing terminal, GÇ£e-everyone gets a stock clone to-to keep costs down.GÇ¥ "
"Cala was... is, a woman. Fiercely patriotic, she had jumped at the chance to be among the first of the RepublicGÇÖs new breed of soldier. Unlike the rest of us, she knew they would put her into a stock male body."
already breaking lore? |
[Veteran_Duster Boskonovitch]
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Posted - 2012.06.24 23:09:00 -
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if u see a dropsuit with t**s its a woman |
[Veteran_Legendary Ecko]
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Posted - 2012.06.24 23:19:00 -
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Duster Boskonovitch wrote:if u see a dropsuit with t**s its a woman
I wonder how a Heavy female Dropsuit would look like... |
[Veteran_Izzy Maffia]
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:11:00 -
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Legendary Ecko wrote:Duster Boskonovitch wrote:if u see a dropsuit with t**s its a woman I wonder how a Heavy female Dropsuit would look like...
LOL....like a beefed up amazon woman on anabolic steroids....YUK.... |
[Veteran_Kain Spero]
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:46:00 -
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scatter gun514 wrote:http://www.dust514.com/media/fiction/stranded-part-seven/
" GÇ£A stock clone,GÇ¥ the coat screams, as I throw him bodily across the room. And then from behind the safety of a flashing terminal, GÇ£e-everyone gets a stock clone to-to keep costs down.GÇ¥ "
"Cala was... is, a woman. Fiercely patriotic, she had jumped at the chance to be among the first of the RepublicGÇÖs new breed of soldier. Unlike the rest of us, she knew they would put her into a stock male body."
already breaking lore?
Just because the Minmatar can only afford stock clones doesn't mean the other empires and independent merc corps have to go that route. |
[Veteran_BL4CK FRIAR]
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:05:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Just because the Minmatar can only afford stock clones doesn't mean the other empires and independent merc corps have to go that route.
I think it has less to do with being cheap and more to do with being practical. Clones in the eve universe don't appear to be grown the same way as portrayed in some sci-fi where a genetic sample is taken from the original host and grown but rather it seems to be a generic body that is later infused with a few genetic markers to resemble the original body of the host. More akin to putting your bumper stickers and fuzzy dice on a car rather then the vehicle being a rebuilt version of the car you just wrecked.
From my understanding of some of the eve lore pertaining to this, base model clones (ie the cheap clones that would most likely be used in combat) lack sexuality of any kind, but rather have cosmetic "parts". These are non functional on base clones so the whole argument of male/female is moot, rather a, when in a combat clone, it is a mental state.
All that being said I am sure that DUST soldiers, much like Eve pilots, "jump clone" into their combat clones while the clone in the Merc quarters is an actual high grade clone with real "bits and pieces". |
[Veteran_Duster Boskonovitch]
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Posted - 2012.06.25 22:59:00 -
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Izzy Maffia wrote:Legendary Ecko wrote:Duster Boskonovitch wrote:if u see a dropsuit with t**s its a woman I wonder how a Heavy female Dropsuit would look like... LOL....like a beefed up amazon woman on anabolic steroids....YUK.... and a fat a**
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[Veteran_Clover PsyKoz]
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Posted - 2012.06.26 00:03:00 -
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I imagine the female scout will look nice.... |
[Veteran_scatter gun514]
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Posted - 2012.06.26 00:08:00 -
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well as per some of the lore, the fresh clones are unmarked by previous battles, your sweet scar from that one time you took a piece of shrapnel across the face, are supposed to disappear between clones, but some things such as vitoc addiction persist, so its something of a fuzzy grey area, but i would have assumed that theyre going to need to cut the 'beauracratic tape' in some new lore to justify female clones and more importantly equipment costs for custom body shapes... |
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Latina- Maffia
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Posted - 2012.06.26 22:09:00 -
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Forums Veteran wrote:Izzy Maffia wrote:Legendary Ecko wrote:Duster Boskonovitch wrote:if u see a dropsuit with t**s its a woman I wonder how a Heavy female Dropsuit would look like... LOL....like a beefed up amazon woman on anabolic steroids....YUK.... and a fat a**
Exactly!!!! (former Izzy Maffia) |
Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2012.06.26 23:21:00 -
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Yes, I realize this is fluff, but given the amount of fluff that EVE has, and that Dust is developing, I feel its important to mention. As far as the chronicles on the Dust site, and details from Templar One, the bodies we use in Dust are mass-produced disposable clones, completely identical accept in vocal cords, so that we can identify each other's voices. They're technically genderless. I know [spoilers] Vince and the others weren't, but they were early models whose bodies were directly modified rather than jumping into the new clones immediately.[/spoilers] Also, the Amarr love wasting money. |
Madeleine 537
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Posted - 2012.06.28 17:26:00 -
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Fluff or whatever, i am still hoping they will add soon... and they don't look silly. ;) |
Korrin Palentes
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Posted - 2012.06.28 17:28:00 -
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How many other FPS have Female characters? |
Oryx Offerton
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Posted - 2012.06.28 17:56:00 -
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This discussion is just funny...Anyway, I think Female characters should have hair that moves when they walk. It'll add that nice detailed touch to the game. |
Korrin Palentes
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Posted - 2012.06.28 18:02:00 -
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Oryx Offerton wrote:This discussion is just funny...Anyway, I think Female characters should have hair that moves when they walk. It'll add that nice detailed touch to the game.
I was actually surpirsed to see this thread continue from when I had orignally created it. |
Lilianna Sentinel
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Posted - 2012.06.28 18:49:00 -
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Forums Veteran wrote:We have no idea yet, but I hope it'll be copy and paste so we don't end up with people choosing the Female character because it has an advantage; usually in F2P FPS games on PC they make the Female characters faster, and sometimes have more stamina, and things like that. I hope thats NOT what CCP is planning for Dust 514.
Just face it, women make better soldiers than men do.
;D
Haha. Anyway, actually the problem that typically comes up isn't how they're given benefits but actually how their smaller frame makes them harder to hit. |
Madeleine 537
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Posted - 2012.06.28 19:55:00 -
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Korrin Palentes wrote:How many other FPS have Female characters?
Not sure why that matters. |
Dune Halden
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Posted - 2012.06.28 21:00:00 -
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Forums Veteran wrote:I believe that everyone has in mind the famous shower scene from Starship Troopers :Q___________
Just watched that movie again yesterday, that was a nice scene.
But back to the subject at hand. Hopefully the only advantage the female character has over male is that it'll take snipers longer to take the shot(haha). |
Latina- Maffia
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Posted - 2012.06.28 22:03:00 -
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Madeleine 537 wrote:Korrin Palentes wrote:How many other FPS have Female characters? Not sure why that matters.
Still there are a few |
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Nuklear Jz
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Posted - 2012.06.28 22:12:00 -
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Forums Veteran wrote:I know that currently selecting a Female character is not an available option in the current beta build. With that said, would having a female dropsuit have any differneces to the male suits or will it be copy and paste stats?
Im a girl and tbh i have no preference. Really changing my little guys sex to female is useless anyway as the character has already been created and its the one i intend to use at launch as i dont want to loose my name haha.
Most games have male protagonists especially FPS and it really makes no difference at all to how you play, you are still going to get shot just because you have a pair haha |
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