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Mikramurka Shock Troop
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Posted - 2015.11.04 13:56:00 -
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I hear you Baal. Personally i want to hear CCP say that there will be no connection to EVE for the foreseeable future so i can let go and retire my characters.
I want to see Dust2 on the PS4, but do think that if we are to go through an iterative community-feedback type of alpha/beta period it would be better done on the PC because Sony QA(on the other hand, thank god for Sony QA, can you imagine Dust without Sony forcing CCP to brush their teeth and change their underwear? The horror....)
PSN: RationalSpark
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Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.04 14:45:00 -
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Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:Well...I hope it gets ported to both...
There are advantages and disadvantages to both platforms...the PCs being the KB/M (which we already have, albeit in a "watered down" form) while consoles have potential smoothness of control (how I've always described why some FPSs I just prefer playing with a Controller) and dedicated hardware (which is how consoles are able to compete vs gaming PCs anyway). As much as I like to joke myself about the PC Master Race, it's hard to argue with the financial argument for consoles...while it is not difficult to build a low-mid level gaming PC for the price of the XBone or PS4, you will be hard pressed to get the same overall in-game performance without going for unreliable/subpar components that aren't very future proofed...
Both console and PC games have issues with "client" mods and Aimbot programs (don't kid yourselves there), they're just harder to implement and harder to detect/deal with on consoles...like viruses on Macs...or snow and Ice in Texas .
But yes, PC and PS4, there are very few reasons not to, and of those none seem compelling
Agreed Thaddeus. You've collected all sensible points into one paragraph, i would only add that re: mods/aimbots etc on PS4 the repercussions/annoyance of getting caught are higher and therefore more of a deterrent.
Taken together with personal preferences for lifestyle/financial issues as Baal points out i think we've collectively said everything that needs to be said about the subject - now cue 10 pages of master race/peasant trolling.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:25:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:yeah but they cant make both version impact eve This does worry me. If I know CCP Iceland like I think I know CCP Iceland, they will not want a console game having an impact on Eve Online. Meanwhile, DUST (PC) they would be more accepting of. i agree i feel like they will be more open to interaction if its on the pc...plus wouldnt it be easier to do that way? i dont know anything about programming really..but it seems it would be easier to make two games on the same system interact with each other vs two different systems
Agree with both of you - although this shouldn't be a good argument, it prolly is...the EVE playerbase will feel less threatened if they can load up the game on PC and hop in whenever they like.
The cross cultural aspect of console mercs interacting with PC pilots is orders of magnitude more interesting and prolly more fruitful in the long run(i.e broadening the demographic of the virtual population of New Eden and the global exposure of New Eden) but hell, who thinks long term these days?
PSN: RationalSpark
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Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.05 00:43:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:I'm sure PC gaming is pretty cool for those inclined. I am going to pick on it a bit but I do know there are plenty of up sides to PC gaming too, however those upsides have no impact at all on my willingness to switch to PC gaming. For me it is a matter of preference, expense and convenience. I find PC gaming thoroughly unenjoyable, so apart from playing old-school classics that are nearly impossible to obtain again (like Legacy of the Wizard on NES) on an emulator I have no inclination to deal with PC gaming whatsoever and that isn't going to change for any game. I don't want to buy a gaming PC (don't have the money to do so anyway), I don't want to build it (again, $$$), I don't want to make room for it, and I don't want to fiddle with it when something goes wrong with it all for a free-to-play game. When my ps3 or ps4 messes up it kicks me from the game, then I reload the game. If it hard freezes I hold the power button and restart it, worst case scenario I unplug it from the wall and then turn it back on. Boom, all better. I don't have to search for the issue, I don't have to fiddle with settings, I don't have to check the game reqs, I don't have to do anything apart from turn on my system and TV and play my games.
That said, I do kinda hope they port to PC. I explained this yesterday: 'I half hope they do port to PC just so I never have to worry about whether or not this game thrives anymore. A PC port unchains me from this game indefinitely and with the amount of rage, frustration and effort I've put into both the game itself and the ideas going into it here on the forums I would actually be quite pleased if they would just let me be free of it.
On the other hand, if it goes to ps4... I may be stuck with this game forever.... and the sad thing is that I can't decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I'm tethered to a game that is masochistic to play and care about and yet I still want it to succeed. I'm torn between desperately wanting it to just die or go to PC so I can get out of my life entirely and wanting it to be as fun as it used to be in Chromosome again so I could enjoy it like the old days...'
If they port to PC, then I have one more reason NOT to buy a gaming PC. After 3 years, I am exhausted from caring about Dust. I used to enjoy this game so much, but after Uprising hit it's been a long painful wait hoping beyond hope to see that level of fun, balance and playability return to this game. I just don't want to care anymore about this game that once filled me with excitement and expectation.
So I guess my last word on this is that I hope they port it to PC just to get it away from me. I don't want any more of this brand of 'hope'.
For Clarity - TL;DR: I prefer consoles but I hope Dust goes to PC so I no longer feel compelled to play it anymore. PC gaming is cool if that is just single. Multiplayers are overwhelmed by aimbots.
This has always been my major concern.
If CCP were rabidly anti-cheat and vigilant about policing hacks and bots then maybe, but do any of us who have been through the beta believe that CCP would invest the resources to do that in Dust? I certainly don't.
PSN: RationalSpark
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