DUST Search - Victor's LR

No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:

Mortedeamor wrote:

No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:

Avallo Kantor wrote:

Lasers have a very narrow band of optimal performance, and a narrow time frame that they can apply serious damage (close to overheating / running out the clip).

Simply stay out of line of sight during that short window, and try to move out of that narrow band of range. If you can get in close they will lose against any armor suit. (Shields will still have a good chance as well though)

The laser has serious drawbacks, but balances this (in theory) with superb cover fire that will force enemies to ground or die. Just make sure you aren't poking your head up during it's fire and you will be fine.

Ultimately just learn to respect the weapon as it can melt you. Treat it like you would a sniper... with a bright highly visible beam.

When I want to **** people over by suppressing them and keeping them entirely out of the match rather than killing them, Laser Rifle if my go to gun. It's the most amazing suppression tool I've ever laid hands on. You don't get to leave your hole until I get bored or someone ganks me.

Also it's good at killing people, but that's less fun.

why dont you leave your hole?

more kills if you keep moving

Because kills don't matter. Victory (and my enjoyment of the game) does. And if I can effectively keep two or more people huddled inside a building then that's several people less the rest of my team has to deal with, and I get to have fun in the process. If I kill them then sure, I get points. But then I risk letting them take a point, kill other members of my team, etc.

If it's just one person then fine, whatever, dead. There's not much tactical advantage to keeping a single person down unless they're a logi or someone you know to be a threat.

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Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 2	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:02:00 - [31] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Officer lasers are supossed to be OP. That said, i always find the best ways to learn to counter any given opponent is to spc into it, play it a bit and learn about the weaknessess. Use cover. As obvious as it sounds, lasers are not going to be charging in and around corners the way RRs CR or ARs will. Keep some obstacles between the Laser and you, and try to keep the fight CQC. If you know one is on the field think twice befroe crossing any open terrain. Lasers are generally very inaccurate with a controller. A little zig zag goes a long way towards making them overcompensate. I dont mean danceing in the open, but it will buy you some time when peeking around corners. Snipers and forge guns are pretty good vs lasers. Lasers tend to stand still when firing, because they are trying to track long range tagets by aiming down sights. They aren't difficult to spot, given away by that massive laser pointer. You can pop out behind cover and one hit kill any amarr assault. Or tac snipe them, if not out right kill them make them think twice about poping thier heads out. Shotgun/ Nova Knifes scouts also work very well. Cloak up to cross open areas, flank, and hit the assault while he's shooting someone else. Hehe... This reminds me of you trying to knife me in your Minja suit in my calass... Fun times... We got redlined though... :( Yeah, had to switch it up and kill you and your buddies with an Amarr suit. Buddy* only one in my squad was Beast ESD1. Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
luckyireland Mcalpines Fusiliers 33	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:09:00 - [32] - Quote Plus a knowledge of the battlefield and taffic areas make its a unbeatable gun in any situation.i once got four kills with one clip with the em7 in a amb flanked there spawn and used intel to start with the weaked one then the logi and his heavy by the time i was finished with them i just touched the last one to annihilate him. I LOVE MY LASER. I'm happy go lucky
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 2	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:14:00 - [33] - Quote catsrule wrote: I get killed by this thing in a split second with 700+ armour, I would like to know how does one stop such treachery, how do I survive this dmg? Can anyone help? mlt lr ask hcsol he lost like 30 to mine the most glorious thing is for an amarrian officer to teach a scrub with the god gun how foolish they truly are pc master race PORT IT CCP
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 2	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:15:00 - [34] - Quote luckyireland wrote: Lasers are inacurate with controllers are you kidding. kbm huah ps ive dropped 70 bombs with lr on ds3 but i get less headshots when headshot hunting i use my kbm ive only managed to get 24 headshots ina match though :/ pc master race PORT IT CCP
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Corrosive Synergy RUST415 240	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:19:00 - [35] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: Lasers have a very narrow band of optimal performance, and a narrow time frame that they can apply serious damage (close to overheating / running out the clip). Simply stay out of line of sight during that short window, and try to move out of that narrow band of range. If you can get in close they will lose against any armor suit. (Shields will still have a good chance as well though) The laser has serious drawbacks, but balances this (in theory) with superb cover fire that will force enemies to ground or die. Just make sure you aren't poking your head up during it's fire and you will be fine. Ultimately just learn to respect the weapon as it can melt you. Treat it like you would a sniper... with a bright highly visible beam. When I want to **** people over by suppressing them and keeping them entirely out of the match rather than killing them, Laser Rifle if my go to gun. It's the most amazing suppression tool I've ever laid hands on. You don't get to leave your hole until I get bored or someone ganks me. Also it's good at killing people, but that's less fun. It's happened once or twice someone couldn't pay the price, and I'm afraid I had to rake 'em 'cross the coals.
luckyireland Mcalpines Fusiliers 33	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:22:00 - [36] - Quote A wounded clone might get you a logi I'm happy go lucky
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 2	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:22:00 - [37] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Avallo Kantor wrote: Lasers have a very narrow band of optimal performance, and a narrow time frame that they can apply serious damage (close to overheating / running out the clip). Simply stay out of line of sight during that short window, and try to move out of that narrow band of range. If you can get in close they will lose against any armor suit. (Shields will still have a good chance as well though) The laser has serious drawbacks, but balances this (in theory) with superb cover fire that will force enemies to ground or die. Just make sure you aren't poking your head up during it's fire and you will be fine. Ultimately just learn to respect the weapon as it can melt you. Treat it like you would a sniper... with a bright highly visible beam. When I want to **** people over by suppressing them and keeping them entirely out of the match rather than killing them, Laser Rifle if my go to gun. It's the most amazing suppression tool I've ever laid hands on. You don't get to leave your hole until I get bored or someone ganks me. Also it's good at killing people, but that's less fun. why dont you leave your hole? more kills if you keep moving pc master race PORT IT CCP
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 117	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:25:00 - [38] - Quote grab another victor or pray.... just found cal assault op^^
luckyireland Mcalpines Fusiliers 36	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:41:00 - [39] - Quote Have loads of victor's only every used it once was the tabletop map died running up to the point got mad i hate campers up high don't mind forge its there job.switched onto victor's got up on the canopy next to it a droped every clone that was up there and proceeded to kill the whole match the thing is a beast,and they were'nt bad players. Tip ALWAYS pre heat before cooking that pro. I'm happy go lucky
TaaSr GunZ DUST University Ivy League 79	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:45:00 - [40] - Quote Best way to counter the LR is with another LR, and you don't need a Viktor, but you better know what you're doing. Nothing draws a "Bringer-of-Light's" attention like another light bearer. "The Amarr people came into the world and the world came into being." - The Scriptures, Book I 1:14

No-one-ganks like-Gaston Corrosive Synergy RUST415 242	Posted - 2015.11.04 02:53:00 - [41] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Avallo Kantor wrote: Lasers have a very narrow band of optimal performance, and a narrow time frame that they can apply serious damage (close to overheating / running out the clip). Simply stay out of line of sight during that short window, and try to move out of that narrow band of range. If you can get in close they will lose against any armor suit. (Shields will still have a good chance as well though) The laser has serious drawbacks, but balances this (in theory) with superb cover fire that will force enemies to ground or die. Just make sure you aren't poking your head up during it's fire and you will be fine. Ultimately just learn to respect the weapon as it can melt you. Treat it like you would a sniper... with a bright highly visible beam. When I want to **** people over by suppressing them and keeping them entirely out of the match rather than killing them, Laser Rifle if my go to gun. It's the most amazing suppression tool I've ever laid hands on. You don't get to leave your hole until I get bored or someone ganks me. Also it's good at killing people, but that's less fun. why dont you leave your hole? more kills if you keep moving Because kills don't matter. Victory (and my enjoyment of the game) does. And if I can effectively keep two or more people huddled inside a building then that's several people less the rest of my team has to deal with, and I get to have fun in the process. If I kill them then sure, I get points. But then I risk letting them take a point, kill other members of my team, etc. If it's just one person then fine, whatever, dead. There's not much tactical advantage to keeping a single person down unless they're a logi or someone you know to be a threat. It's happened once or twice someone couldn't pay the price, and I'm afraid I had to rake 'em 'cross the coals.
luckyireland Mcalpines Fusiliers 36	Posted - 2015.11.04 03:15:00 - [42] - Quote AND don't pre heat shooting into the open shoot the ground or the cover in front of you if theres no cover in front of you ask yourself the question why am i using the laser. I'm happy go lucky
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.11.04 03:54:00 - [43] - Quote try and get close, once you're in 70 meters or so and less, he'll be doing less damage. closer you are the better Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 2	Posted - 2015.11.04 05:18:00 - [44] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Avallo Kantor wrote: Lasers have a very narrow band of optimal performance, and a narrow time frame that they can apply serious damage (close to overheating / running out the clip). Simply stay out of line of sight during that short window, and try to move out of that narrow band of range. If you can get in close they will lose against any armor suit. (Shields will still have a good chance as well though) The laser has serious drawbacks, but balances this (in theory) with superb cover fire that will force enemies to ground or die. Just make sure you aren't poking your head up during it's fire and you will be fine. Ultimately just learn to respect the weapon as it can melt you. Treat it like you would a sniper... with a bright highly visible beam. When I want to **** people over by suppressing them and keeping them entirely out of the match rather than killing them, Laser Rifle if my go to gun. It's the most amazing suppression tool I've ever laid hands on. You don't get to leave your hole until I get bored or someone ganks me. Also it's good at killing people, but that's less fun. why dont you leave your hole? more kills if you keep moving Because kills don't matter. Victory (and my enjoyment of the game) does. And if I can effectively keep two or more people huddled inside a building then that's several people less the rest of my team has to deal with, and I get to have fun in the process. If I kill them then sure, I get points. But then I risk letting them take a point, kill other members of my team, etc. If it's just one person then fine, whatever, dead. There's not much tactical advantage to keeping a single person down unless they're a logi or someone you know to be a threat. best way to protect the point slaughter everything and then redline em as hard ass possible lol pc master race PORT IT CCP
Rowdy Railgunner Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 565	Posted - 2015.11.04 05:22:00 - [45] - Quote catsrule wrote: I get killed by this thing in a split second with 700+ armour, I would like to know how does one stop such treachery, how do I survive this dmg? Can anyone help? Well, having been in matches against him, his lazor is doing what he would do anyway. Dude is pretty beast with one.
Vesta Opalus PROJECT OF KILLERS. RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.11.04 05:38:00 - [46] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: LOL KILLZ wrote: catsrule wrote: So, I just let it happen? Maybe it has to something to do with your inherent need to go towards shiny things Follow the shiny. Cats are always victims to such mentality. We are cursed from birth. Being globally better than dogs isnt a curse
Leovarian L Lavitz TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS 1	Posted - 2015.11.04 06:51:00 - [47] - Quote On the train map I landed on one of the two buildings over looking the depot and began lasering the reds coming down from their ridge in the redline. Shortly later an officer laser smacks me down to 50 hp as i take cover : I had selected the building with the anti mcc turret on it just in case this happened and it saved my life. So, keeping the turret armor between him and I, I continued to laser his dudes >:D Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto Playstation move player
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.11.04 08:50:00 - [48] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Officer lasers are supossed to be OP. That said, i always find the best ways to learn to counter any given opponent is to spc into it, play it a bit and learn about the weaknessess. Use cover. As obvious as it sounds, lasers are not going to be charging in and around corners the way RRs CR or ARs will. Keep some obstacles between the Laser and you, and try to keep the fight CQC. If you know one is on the field think twice befroe crossing any open terrain. Lasers are generally very inaccurate with a controller. A little zig zag goes a long way towards making them overcompensate. I dont mean danceing in the open, but it will buy you some time when peeking around corners. Snipers and forge guns are pretty good vs lasers. Lasers tend to stand still when firing, because they are trying to track long range tagets by aiming down sights. They aren't difficult to spot, given away by that massive laser pointer. You can pop out behind cover and one hit kill any amarr assault. Or tac snipe them, if not out right kill them make them think twice about poping thier heads out. Shotgun/ Nova Knifes scouts also work very well. Cloak up to cross open areas, flank, and hit the assault while he's shooting someone else. Hehe... This reminds me of you trying to knife me in your Minja suit in my calass... Fun times... We got redlined though... :( Yeah, had to switch it up and kill you and your buddies with an Amarr suit. Buddy* only one in my squad was Beast ESD1. yeah, and I think he got it worst than you, with his Mk. 0 assault with an assault rifle. don't know what that was about. A combat rifle would have ate me alive. any we are derailing this thread, it was a fun fight and you guys didn't give up. 07. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
catsrule D3ATH CARD RUST415 126	Posted - 2015.11.04 17:36:00 - [49] - Quote This thread was derailed long ago Why do we forget the things we want to remember but remember the things we want to forget ~ Unknown
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 779	Posted - 2015.11.04 17:47:00 - [50] - Quote Do you expect me to talk? No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to die. LASERS!! Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop

zzZaXxx T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 831	Posted - 2015.11.04 17:50:00 - [51] - Quote Those pesky Victors users can hold their beam for so long you'll think they're almost done or focused somewhere else and them suddenly they'll swing the beam over to you and eviscerate you because the dmg is so high by then. I win
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 2	Posted - 2015.11.04 17:51:00 - [52] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Union118 wrote: Its very powerful i agree. I think it needs a distance nerf. The farther the beam travels the cooler it gets. Least in theory. I personally believe people who request that the officer laser rifle should be nerfed should be hanged, drawn and quartered. i think it should overheat at 119 just cause you said that pc master race PORT IT CCP
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.11.04 18:35:00 - [53] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Union118 wrote: Its very powerful i agree. I think it needs a distance nerf. The farther the beam travels the cooler it gets. Least in theory. I personally believe people who request that the officer laser rifle should be nerfed should be hanged, drawn and quartered. i think it should overheat at 119 just cause you said that there we have it, Amarr anti tank, lol Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 963	Posted - 2015.11.04 19:33:00 - [54] - Quote This thread can't be serious.... Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.11.04 20:07:00 - [55] - Quote Ever killed a madrugar tank with a laser rifle? I have,somehow. Guess the tank was on its last bit of HP and the game decided I should have the kill. (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!
TaaSr GunZ DUST University Ivy League 81	Posted - 2015.11.05 08:58:00 - [56] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Ever killed a madrugar tank with a laser rifle? I have,somehow. Guess the tank was on its last bit of HP and the game decided I should have the kill. It saddens me that I can only give this one like "The Amarr people came into the world and the world came into being." - The Scriptures, Book I 1:14
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 917	Posted - 2015.11.06 15:13:00 - [57] - Quote All of this talk and so far I cant really see anyone calling for nerfs that I have ever seen using them. LR`s are fairly rare to see on the battlefield, their rarity only surpassed by under-performing sidearms and grenades. Let me give you some advice about fighting lasers. If they are the campy laser type - use a forge gun and wipe them out the easy way. If they are proficient and moving positions you may try the forge gun or LR yourself but remember that you can time precisely when the enemy is going to be dealing high damage. Catch that laser inbetween cycles and you will most certainly have the DPS advantage with other rifle weapons. Not only that but as you get into close range it gets exponentially harder to hit with the LR. NEVER TRY TO RUN THROUGH OPEN GROUND TO FIGHT A LASER. (Unless you are something a bit special [PewPew mofo] or a maniac) Trust me I have tried a little hip firing the LR at close range and its damn hard to pull off.
sizwe sizzle T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K Damage LLC 5	Posted - 2015.11.06 15:42:00 - [58] - Quote TaaSr GunZ wrote: Best way to counter the LR is with another LR, and you don't need a Viktor, but you better know what you're doing. Nothing draws a "Bringer-of-Light's" attention like another light bearer. Use sg or nk laser is screwed someone gets close to them or just call a warbarge just for him I got a cloud empire and I'm a king like everyone else
Yaerus Steel Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion. 52	Posted - 2015.11.06 19:16:00 - [59] - Quote Yeah, the best feeling is flanking with a laser and nuking those 4 guys that are suppressing the push onto the objective. Good times! I wish I had bought thousands of Viktors before the new nerf to Officer weapon generation, but atleast I have a contact who has thousands of them in his inventory.


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