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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:34:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Joel II X wrote:korrah silain wrote:Yea for fucks sake please! It got gimped to the point thatit couldn't be used to hunt, or ambush directly ages ago, it would be nice if the visuals were updated to allow it to function.as a positioning tool...also maybe decrease the cost to reflect its nerfing? Kinda insane how hard adv is to fit on adv suits It's not a combat cloak. It's a utility cloak. You use it to get from the city to an outside point undetected. Using a cloak in a city is beyond [mentally handicapped]. And yet you become more visible the further out you are. Nice argument talking about mentally handicapped. Also the nside the city it works to make an escape around a.corner and stop to hide, but you clearly don't play scout...
Just a fyi he's a longterm scout ie I believe at this point over 2 years now.
The most abusive northerner.
currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
129
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:37:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:korrah silain wrote:Joel II X wrote:korrah silain wrote:Yea for fucks sake please! It got gimped to the point thatit couldn't be used to hunt, or ambush directly ages ago, it would be nice if the visuals were updated to allow it to function.as a positioning tool...also maybe decrease the cost to reflect its nerfing? Kinda insane how hard adv is to fit on adv suits It's not a combat cloak. It's a utility cloak. You use it to get from the city to an outside point undetected. Using a cloak in a city is beyond [mentally handicapped]. And yet you become more visible the further out you are. Nice argument talking about mentally handicapped. Also the nside the city it works to make an escape around a.corner and stop to hide, but you clearly don't play scout... Just a fyi he's a longterm scout ie I believe at this point over 2 years now.
What a coincidence I've been scouting for at least that long.
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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P14GU3
poison roses
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:27:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:What a coincidence I've been scouting for at least that long.
But we know he has been a scout for 2+ years. He has been part of the many dicussions we have had about cloaks since their release. He has nearly 10k likes and is a very active member of the community.
I have never seen nor heard of you in 2+ years, in-game, or on these forums. I'm pretty sure most others will say the same.
His opinions stands much higher than yours.
And I'm almost positive the cloak shimmer effect is the same for all three tiers of cloak. The only difference is profile dampening bonus and pg/cpu.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - 'Sault GK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Sentinal MK.0
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
129
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:37:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:korrah silain wrote:What a coincidence I've been scouting for at least that long. But we know he has been a scout for 2+ years. He has been part of the many dicussions we have had about cloaks since their release. He has nearly 10k likes and is a very active member of the community. I have never seen nor heard of you in 2+ years, in-game, or on these forums. I'm pretty sure most others will say the same. His opinions stands much higher than yours. And I'm almost positive the cloak shimmer effect is the same for all three tiers of cloak. The only difference is profile dampening bonus and pg/cpu.
Fine lets look at facts.
Fact: his statement was (paraphrasing) the cloak is used to cross open areas, it is utility not combat. Fine, I agree with that.
Fact: the further away you are the easier the shimmer is to see. This has been proven and states by ccp as a result of TV pixilation, and renders the cloak useless for its stated perpous of crossing open ground.
So there you have my argument for why the cloak animation needs work REGARDLESS of weather it is different across tiers, or my seniority, or activity.
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:45:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:korrah silain wrote:What a coincidence I've been scouting for at least that long. But we know he has been a scout for 2+ years. He has been part of the many dicussions we have had about cloaks since their release. He has nearly 10k likes and is a very active member of the community. I have never seen nor heard of you in 2+ years, in-game, or on these forums. I'm pretty sure most others will say the same. His opinions stands much higher than yours. And I'm almost positive the cloak shimmer effect is the same for all three tiers of cloak. The only difference is profile dampening bonus and pg/cpu.
There is also duration to consider.
That being said, it shouldn't matter where you use the cloak, or in what lighting, if it is being used for defensive purposes.
The mechanisms of the cloak were abused on release in many circumstances (hp stacked scouts shooting from cloak), but the changes were too broad and reduced the intended uses of the cloak as well.
I personally would like to see a shimmer/opacity that depended upon distance/speed as variables with sprinting closely having the most shimmer and standing still at extreme distance being invisible. This promotes defensive uses without creating abusive offensive situations.
I am also not optimistic this is possible or a priority however.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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IR Scifi
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:56:00 -
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As a non-dedicated scout the cloak seems to work fine EXCEPT others should lose the ability to have their crosshairs turn red when they sweep over you. Seems silly that you can dampen below radar sensors but FoF still works... |
P14GU3
poison roses
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:16:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Fact: the further away you are the easier the shimmer is to see. This has been proven and states by ccp as a result of TV pixilation, and renders the cloak useless for its stated perpous of crossing open ground.
You should probably link that "fact" for us, because I don't remember CCP actually stating any particular reason for the shimmer being seen in some cases and not others.
I have seen cloakers at point blank range in the dark and lost sight of them at 50m in bright lighting, I have also seen the opposite. If anything, seeing them at range would be more difficult because everyone knows Dust has rendering issues.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - 'Sault GK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Sentinal MK.0
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2015.11.04 05:19:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:korrah silain wrote:Fact: the further away you are the easier the shimmer is to see. This has been proven and states by ccp as a result of TV pixilation, and renders the cloak useless for its stated perpous of crossing open ground. You should probably link that "fact" for us, because I don't remember CCP actually stating any particular reason for the shimmer being seen in some cases and not others. I have seen cloakers at point blank range in the dark and lost sight of them at 50m in bright lighting, I have also seen the opposite. If anything, seeing them at range would be more difficult because everyone knows Dust has rendering issues.
I really wish I could but I'm not going to go travelling back through god knows how many threads. I want to say it was around the dropsuit tier normalization and release of the apex. However your testimony lends creedance to the argument that the visuals need to be tuned as you literally light up with the shimmer.
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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